For those that believe ASD is Only hard wired/genetic
Well, I’m calling BS on those who torpedo threads on this topic so that they can get them locked and then say “it’s agianst forum rules to discuss locked threads,” which is a really annoying form of censorship. It’s complete BS that civil discussion of treatments, whether brand new scientific discoveries or the self administered methods by anyone on this forum, is not allowed to occur because people intentionally torpedo threads to get them locked and make the topic off limits.
Start of a meltdown here Sparky?
No, sir. I don't have autistic meltdowns anymore. I haven't for years. The only time I feel any sort of "ASD meltdown stress," is after I have to take a long course of antibiotics, and as I've shared, Doxycycline seems to be about the worst culprit - so whatever it kills that I put in me that benefits me results in increased ASD symptoms. I'm unsure about various other antibiotics because I was deemed to be allergic to Penicillin when I took it for tonsillitis when I was 12 years old and had an extremely itchy rash as a result. Doctors have suggested that I get an allergy test for it because if it's determined that I can take Penicillin, then there are many other antibiotics available to me should I need them to clear up a bacterial infection. I've requested the test several times, but my GP refuses to send me to an allergist for it because every patient he's sent the allergist has refused to test because if someone IS in fact allergic to Penicillin it can be lethal. Doctors' theory is that many were deemed allergic to it when in fact they reacted to binders and fillers in the pills decades ago. The only way to determine it is to pop a pill and wait and see what happens, so basically just take a strong dose under medical supervision so they can save your life if you go into anaphylactic shock. I'm willing to do this, but my GP isn't willing to refer me to an allergist as the allergists refuse to do the test... so, nearly every time I'm prescribed antibiotics for something, it's Doxycycline, and so it's possible that I notice worse effects from it than others simply because I've been prescribed it many more times. Regardless, I'm not about to have a meltdown - I don't have them anymore because I've figured out how to treat & control the severity of my symptoms in order to be a better balanced individual.
Could have fooled me.
Anyway you are aware that the majority of bacteria in your gut are in fact a beneficial and necessary part of both your digestive system and immune defense are you not, and that antibiotics indiscriminately kill them all pretty much. Antibiotics should only be used to control/eradicate infections and not for anything else.
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I can comprehend it. But it's still amateur conjecture. And it doesn't take into account other possibilities. I'm sure Dr. Attwood would recommend a diagnosis from an expert in the field if you're going to go around recommending autism treatments based on yourself as the only subject.
Ever lose your keys or phone, EzraS? When you find them, do you keep looking? No. Because you know it's your phone/keys/whatever.
I understand that people make mistakes. I also understand that even doctors make mistakes. (Hell, you'd think I'd be F U R I O U S with a misdiagnosis I've had for nearly 20 years that recently took seeing 5 or 6 different doctors and just as many pharmacists to eventually properly diagnose & treat, but instead I just smoked a lot of weed about it this Winter and took it as a lesson that doctors do the best they can & still make mistakes as to err is human, and in a ~decade I may be in such a position and will in fact make mistakes throughout my future career.. but all of that is unrelated to this - only acknowledging that both patients and doctors make mistakes.)
I know my diagnosis. It isn't a mistake. I am 100% confident it would be confirmed by any true expert in this field. I cannot fake the prosody of my voice, my lack of eye contact at times, my facial expressions, my formal vocabulary, the gait to my step when I walk - all of the subtle signs of AS. What I can do is manipulate my functioning levels via antibiotics/probiotics, diet, and food chemicals, in order to have them present unmistakably strongly Or so subtly my concern is that a Psychiatrist may say "Well, you display some very high functioning traits of AS, but not strong enough to cause any major social, life, or work impairments so you don't qualify for a diagnosis."
Anyways, when others criticized me in the past for not conducting a medical study on myself 5-6 years ago because I was too busy saving my own life from suicidal depression & overwhelmingly strong ASD symptoms and was not in a clear minded logical thinking mode of "I should document this entire process so that I have evidence to be discovered in the court of EzraS," my response, besides one big
The next 5 years (hopefully not that long) will be different than the last. I'll do that and more. My contact at the youth homeless shelter I've raised money for knows a woman who is one of the founders of the Pacific Autism Family Network w/ a big shiny new building near the Vancouver Airport. I'll meet with her, tell her what I've learned and done, connect with whatever doctor(s) and resources she's willing to make available to me. AFAIK, the main Psychiatrists in BC who diagnose AS(D) are all at the University of British Columbia. Guess where the beach is that I go to nearly daily? UBC. I can not only email/phone them, but go knock on their doors. A fellow kiteboarder, Dr. Mark Goddley (a plastic surgeon from Australia), owns & operates The False Creek Healthcare Centre. He has an MRI machine. I could ask him if he'd be interested in contributing to this project by doing some scans. If he's not interested, there's a private MRI clinic down the street from my house and I looked up their online menu and it's around a grand for a head scan. I'd be interested in having my brain scanned simply to prove that it doesn't follow the NT connectivity map as per the Israeli ASD study published a few years ago that showed us that ASD brains are in fact differently, and uniquely from each other, wired. A carpenter I once worked with's mother was the founder of LifeLabs - it's the main biological sample testing laboratory company here where swabs & samples are sent to by doctors and hospitals for testing/analysis. I could ask him if he'd be able to connect me with her and see if if I could get access to lab testing for science project purposes. (I'm talking stool samples for some sort of bacteria count profile at different stages of health/functioning) If not, money buys access to anything and I'll simply have to take more time to earn more cash and pay for it. (I have money, but it's inaccessible-ish, so if I want something I have to work more for it. I've done this on purpose so that I can't be wasteful or sell investments at an inopportune time.) I have a bottle of unused Doxycycline from when I was instructed to discontinue use, and it may be enough to help send my symptoms into obvious mode one more time, but I could likely obtain more in order to have enough to complete transition from Dr. Jekyll back to Mr. Hyde. It's not a controlled substance/narcotic so I don't think it would be exceptionally difficult to persuade certain people in the medical field to slip me another bottle or two of it, especially considering that it's given out for free to patients using anonymous names at sexual health testing clinics.
And then you can send alex. He can come stay for a while - a month? Whatever it takes. I'll show him, on camera, how I can manipulate my symptoms. He can feel free to interview anyone in my life that will agree to it - some of my immediate family will, others won't. Other friends/family in my story I can easily persuade to do this. The friend who's house I stayed at 6 years ago when I couldn't function or work. My Aspiest uncle. Aunts/cousins, the pretty little gay boy I dated briefly a couple Winter's back, my high school best friend who's seen how much I've changed, my cousin who said at Christmas Dinner a few years back "You seem.. happy. For the first time in your life." (or something to that effect), the Herbalist & his Naturopathic Doctor father, My GP & medical records that show when I last popped any SSRI's or ADHD stimulants - whoever - all of these people and everything I've said are very real.
I wouldn't waste his time. As an Autistic filmmaker, I'd be interested in this if I were him. But I also acknowledge that he may very well think that I'm insane, and this is why I'd be willing to do whatever it takes to see the aforementioned experts in advance, And I'd sweeten the deal to make the trip otherwise worthwhile. This is Hollywood North & he's a filmmaker. My cousin (and others I know) works in film. If he wants to go check out some studios, I'll set it up. If he wants to meet the independent film maker I'm acquaintances with on FB, I'll queue that up. Hell, a friend of mine from the beach recently worked on the set of a show I didn't even know was filmed here because I don't watch TV (although I AM interested in this show) called "The Good Doctor," that's apparently about an Autistic Doctor. Want to go check it out? I'll find out who and where they are and go ask. I'm a pretty good salesman when I want to be, and it shouldn't be too difficult to play the disability card and ask nicely if a couple of high functioning autistics, one who makes films, could come for a meet & greet on set. Plus this place is stunningly beautiful and I have a 6spd 4banger transportation appliance that could very easily be utilized to tour around everywhere from the beaches to Chinatown or up to Whistler. So, if he'd be interested, best case scenario I prove my truth with science, facts, and go on camera to share it with you all. And worst case scenario he takes an extended vacation to the Vancouver area and stays in a suburban home for free while checking the place out. IMO, it'd be a no lose proposition for him. Who knows? Maybe we could get the Film Board of Canada to pay for it all, too. Or get someone else on board. David Suzuki of "The Nature of Things," that produced "The Autism Engima," episode I linked to lives locally in Vancouver somewhere. Invite him to the party.
Hmm, I should ask alex, actually. If he's interested, then tell me what you want in advance & I'll figure out how long it will take and how much it will cost and work on it. If it takes a year or two of preparation, so be it, the time is going to pass anyways. I'm not too concerned about f*****g myself up and losing a job - there are some real a**holes where I work lol so it's hard to get fired.. plus it's Union.. and my father is the local President.. but even IF I threw my symptoms for a loop and lost a job, whoopee, there are plenty more jobs & I can easily get another one or 10. That's not a concern whatsoever. I have no problem avoiding people/dates/close friends while I'm in strong AS mode after a course of antibiotics - I've learned to do this until my gut is back to being balanced with probiotics again. The only time I would not be willing to do any of these things to myself is if/when I'm in class. Once I'm back to school part/full time, my grades will be the single most important thing in my life and I won't jeopardize them by messing with my health, so, it'd likely have to be queued up for Summer sometime. All the best weather, things to do, and parties are then, anyways.
And if he's not into it whatsoever, well, *shrug*, don't say I didn't offer to prove any/all of this. It is important to me, though, so even if it takes a couple years and costs $10,000.00, I'll do it.
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Not really. Usually they have studied whatever for years and diagnosed and treated hundreds of people. What if you thought you had cancer or whatever. Would you choose to stick with a self diagnosis and concoct a home made treatment? Where do you draw the line at self diagnosis and self treatment?
I've lived 100% of my life like this, I know myself. They can talk to hundreds of patients & still have it equate to only 2nd hand information from other people during a small % of their life. It's incomparable to leaving with AS 24/7, 365. I am confident in my diagnosis.
I draw the line whenever I require someone else' expertise or prescription writing authority. I'm not anti doctor. Whenever I need to see a doctor, I go see one.
That's all still all a subjective and anecdotal conclusion based on a limited knowledge of autism. I'm sure you know that's not how science works. It doesn't hold water as far as you recommending a treatment for autism.
And you say you know yourself, but how come you don't seem to know that you display all kinds of issues here that people keep pointing out to you? When it comes to that you seem to have a poor to nonexistent aptitude when it comes to self awareness self analysis et al.
The phrase that keeps getting used as people talk about me here is "mind blind."
Do you expect a blind person to describe to you what they can't see?
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Well, I’m calling BS on those who torpedo threads on this topic so that they can get them locked and then say “it’s agianst forum rules to discuss locked threads,” which is a really annoying form of censorship. It’s complete BS that civil discussion of treatments, whether brand new scientific discoveries or the self administered methods by anyone on this forum, is not allowed to occur because people intentionally torpedo threads to get them locked and make the topic off limits.
Start of a meltdown here Sparky?
No, sir. I don't have autistic meltdowns anymore. I haven't for years. The only time I feel any sort of "ASD meltdown stress," is after I have to take a long course of antibiotics, and as I've shared, Doxycycline seems to be about the worst culprit - so whatever it kills that I put in me that benefits me results in increased ASD symptoms. I'm unsure about various other antibiotics because I was deemed to be allergic to Penicillin when I took it for tonsillitis when I was 12 years old and had an extremely itchy rash as a result. Doctors have suggested that I get an allergy test for it because if it's determined that I can take Penicillin, then there are many other antibiotics available to me should I need them to clear up a bacterial infection. I've requested the test several times, but my GP refuses to send me to an allergist for it because every patient he's sent the allergist has refused to test because if someone IS in fact allergic to Penicillin it can be lethal. Doctors' theory is that many were deemed allergic to it when in fact they reacted to binders and fillers in the pills decades ago. The only way to determine it is to pop a pill and wait and see what happens, so basically just take a strong dose under medical supervision so they can save your life if you go into anaphylactic shock. I'm willing to do this, but my GP isn't willing to refer me to an allergist as the allergists refuse to do the test... so, nearly every time I'm prescribed antibiotics for something, it's Doxycycline, and so it's possible that I notice worse effects from it than others simply because I've been prescribed it many more times. Regardless, I'm not about to have a meltdown - I don't have them anymore because I've figured out how to treat & control the severity of my symptoms in order to be a better balanced individual.
Could have fooled me.
Anyway you are aware that the majority of bacteria in your gut are in fact a beneficial and necessary part of both your digestive system and immune defense are you not, and that antibiotics indiscriminately kill them all pretty much. Antibiotics should only be used to control/eradicate infections and not for anything else.
I am aware of that. What makes you think otherwise? I know that antibiotics kill them. I know that they're used to control/eradicate bacterial infections. That's the only reason I've ever taken them for. But I also know that when I do take them, especially for an extended period of time, that they revert me back to having stronger ASD symptoms. This is fact.
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When I saw my GP back then, with a copy of Attwood's book in hand, it was pretty much "Yeah.. you're f****d. And annoying af. Sorry 'bout that bud, sweet f**k all I can do for ya unless you want a referral to a shrink."
And the last time I saw him, a few months or so ago, was because I had mostly only seen walk-in clinic doctors as needed for illness over the last few years and my mother was concerned I should have a physical done because I'm 35 years old. I saw him and some student doctor. He asked a few questions and was like "Well, you're healthy. And you're not old enough to need a full physical. Nothing to worry about, keep doing what you're doing." (My twin brother, otoh, is overweight and eats a terrible diet and I'm concerned if he carries on down the same path it'll result in a heart attack in his 40's)
And I disclosed earlier in this thread; I'm not anti-doctor. I go to them as needed. I don't avoid clinics or hospitals etc - but I also don't go to them with every sneeze or sniffle and waste medical resources.
I haven't tried any chocolate & masturbating treatments.. but I have tried plenty of pretty little gay boys, and that medicine seems to work for me, so, I'll continue that course of treatment.
So there's no way to know medically if this aggressive regimen you're trying to get autistic people to undertake, has any negative asymptomatic side effects. Because you didn't bother to tell a doctor what you've been doing and have yourself specifically checked for it by getting bloodwork and labs done. That's careless and irresponsible in my opinion. And quite frankly what I expected.
Do you expect a blind person to describe to you what they can't see?
It's more like tunnel vision; only able to focus exclusively on your own singular subjective perspective.
I can comprehend it. But it's still amateur conjecture. And it doesn't take into account other possibilities. I'm sure Dr. Attwood would recommend a diagnosis from an expert in the field if you're going to go around recommending autism treatments based on yourself as the only subject.
Ever lose your keys or phone, EzraS? When you find them, do you keep looking? No. Because you know it's your phone/keys/whatever.
That's because they are my keys and no one else's.
No one gives a rat's rump about you being self diagnosed and self medicating when it comes to your own personal business.
The the concern and the objection is you trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen for autism based on yourself, an undiagnosed person, as the test subject.
In the science of medicine, no one would use an undiagnosed person as a test subject.
In your case trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen for autism, you should have extensive diagnostic results to display regarding where you are on the autism spectrum.
Furthermore in trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen you're performing on yourself, it should have been conducted under the consultation and close supervision of your own personal physician, with routine lab work being done on you every six to twelve months.
In order for me to get refills on my medication, I have to have my personal physician re-examine me every six months. That's how medicine works.
This is not about you, it's about every autistic person you are trying to get to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen.
I'm not writing this for you, because I know you'll just deflect it. I'm writing it for the sake everyone else.
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When I saw my GP back then, with a copy of Attwood's book in hand, it was pretty much "Yeah.. you're f****d. And annoying af. Sorry 'bout that bud, sweet f**k all I can do for ya unless you want a referral to a shrink."
And the last time I saw him, a few months or so ago, was because I had mostly only seen walk-in clinic doctors as needed for illness over the last few years and my mother was concerned I should have a physical done because I'm 35 years old. I saw him and some student doctor. He asked a few questions and was like "Well, you're healthy. And you're not old enough to need a full physical. Nothing to worry about, keep doing what you're doing." (My twin brother, otoh, is overweight and eats a terrible diet and I'm concerned if he carries on down the same path it'll result in a heart attack in his 40's)
And I disclosed earlier in this thread; I'm not anti-doctor. I go to them as needed. I don't avoid clinics or hospitals etc - but I also don't go to them with every sneeze or sniffle and waste medical resources.
I haven't tried any chocolate & masturbating treatments.. but I have tried plenty of pretty little gay boys, and that medicine seems to work for me, so, I'll continue that course of treatment.
So there's no way to know medically if this aggressive regimen you're trying to get autistic people to undertake, has any negative asymptomatic side effects. Because you didn't bother to tell a doctor what you've been doing and have yourself specifically checked for it by getting bloodwork and labs done. That's careless and irresponsible in my opinion. And quite frankly what I expected.
Do you expect a blind person to describe to you what they can't see?
It's more like tunnel vision; only able to focus exclusively on your own singular subjective perspective.
Nothing I do is anything that many other people haven't. I've simply combined things that work to heal/treat the intestinal cause of symptoms.
There's no need to get bloodwork done before deciding to cook yourself up a pot of chicken soup & eat some veggies, herbs, spices, nuts, seeds, meat & fish. To suggest so is absurd.
I know of exactly zero human beings of any neurotype or body type who went to a doctor and had bloodwork done prior to deciding to eat healthy food from the grocery store, farmers market, produce store, and health food store. This is because it's unnecessary and a waste of medical resources. Could you imagine?? "Doctor, I'm concerned that if I eat chicken soup with herbs and spices, onions/mushrooms/garlic, veggies, and some meat/fish/nuts/seeds that something awful might happen & so I think you should draw some blood and test it.. you know, just to make sure it's still red and stuff."
Like I told you several posts ago, I went for a physical a few months ago, 2 Medical Doctors checked my vitals and asked me a few questions and then said it's a waste of their time and resources to do bloodwork of any kind or proceed with any other examinations or tests. This is because I am among his healthiest patients. Pretty simple straight forward stuff.
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I get blood tested once per year and the test always comes back as healthy. No problems or deficiencies. No high blood pressure. My diet isn't exactly what you'd call healthy either. Much of it is fast food and I think I actually drink more Pepsi than water. Yet even back when I was obese I didn't get any flags from blood tests.
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I can comprehend it. But it's still amateur conjecture. And it doesn't take into account other possibilities. I'm sure Dr. Attwood would recommend a diagnosis from an expert in the field if you're going to go around recommending autism treatments based on yourself as the only subject.
Ever lose your keys or phone, EzraS? When you find them, do you keep looking? No. Because you know it's your phone/keys/whatever.
That's because they are my keys and no one else's.
No one gives a rat's rump about you being self diagnosed and self medicating when it comes to your own personal business.
The the concern and the objection is you trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen for autism based on yourself, an undiagnosed person, as the test subject.
In the science of medicine, no one would use an undiagnosed person as a test subject.
In your case trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen for autism, you should have extensive diagnostic results to display regarding where you are on the autism spectrum.
Furthermore in trying to get autistic people to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen you're performing on yourself, it should have been conducted under the consultation and close supervision of your own personal physician, with routine lab work being done on you every six to twelve months.
In order for me to get refills on my medication, I have to have my personal physician re-examine me every six months. That's how medicine works.
This is not about you, it's about every autistic person you are trying to get to try a home-made aggressive medicinal treatment regimen.
I'm not writing this for you, because I know you'll just deflect it. I'm writing it for the sake everyone else.
Maybe you don't care what alleviates these symptoms, but that doesn't mean that others do not nor that I shouldn't share it with anyone who does care or would like to know how I've managed to achieve this. Like I said earlier, if you are uninterested in doing anything I've done, don't do it for yourself. It's that simple.
Oh noes, how dare someone suggest that people eat chicken soup & veggies! How awful! What a dangerous diet! You're hilarious, EzraS. There's a reason that chicken soup has been made and fed to sick people for centuries.. it's because it's healthy & healing - same same for herbs/spices, veggies, lean fish, seeds/nuts etc. These are all healthy people food.. not some wild aphrodisiacs from rural China made of dried up ground tiger penis or something.
There's no requirement for any human to have "routine labwork," done. It's not "routine," for people to go waste medical resources having their blood tested because they decided to eat healthy food. Further, like I was transparent about 5+ years ago, I was not conducting a medical study on myself - I was busy saving my own life.
Also, the other things I do for my health, while not every-household-common, are pretty common things. People do cleansing/herbal/coffee enemas all the time. There are colonics clinics where people go and pay others to hook them up to a machine that automates the process. There are "cleansing camps," that exist to teach people how to do this (I guess those people have difficulty with google and prefer an instructor?) & I know this because my brother who works in federal law enforcement at the border crossing has had travellers come through and tell him that is the purpose of their trip to Canada, to attend one of these seminars so they can learn about these things. I know health conscious people who do coffee enemas to cleanse their livers, and others who do high volume enemas for dermatological and/or general health. This is not some fringe thing that I came up with in my own mind. It's well documented - and that's how I was able to read about it and learn from more than 100 years of people doing this for their health. Like I told you already, this isn't where I wanted the evidence to lead - but just like in a court of law, the evidence is the evidence and it is what it is whether we like it or not.
No, that's how pharmaceuticals work. Not all medicine are pharmaceuticals distributed by MD's & Pharmacists. That's a more recent development in medicine in the grand scheme of humans' use of medicine - like the last couple hundred years only. Virtually every food/plant has a medicinal purpose/value to humans/animals. This quote sums it up: "Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food." - Hippocrates, father of medicine.
You're right, this is not about me. I am healthy & fine. It's about other people. If you're at all concerned about my chicken soup recipe, by all means, modify it to suit yourself. Alternatively, as I've also shared, the diet that I pieced together for myself from dozens of sources of knowledge, as it turned out, is extremely similar to "The GAPS Diet," because these are the foods that heal the gut and treat mental/neurological symptoms that are resulting because of an imbalanced gut & unhealthy intestines. By all means, don't make any of my recipes and Do make all of the ones in this book - they're damned near identical, and this book has sold many copies and helped many people:

Note the credentials of the author at the bottom of the image. If you're a better expert than her, please, by all means, teach us all.
Of course I'll deflect it, because it has no basis in reality. It's common knowledge that chicken soup, herbs/spices, & organic veggies are healthy food. Feel free to prove me wrong with knowledge/facts.
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No. Pretty much the only time blood is drawn and tested is when it is required for diagnosing an ailment or deficiency that is causing an undesirable symptom such as extreme fatigue or something. It may also be drawn and tested when it's determined that a full physical is in order, ie for men over 40 - especially if they're out of shape like my overweight twin brother. The only time that I have blood drawn is by a CDC nurse at a STI testing clinic. They send it off and test for any indication of HIV & other sexually transmitted infections, and it always comes back clean & negative because I practice safe sex. The only times I've ever heard of anyone having bloodwork done are when they are ill, super fatigued and trying to diagnose anemia, or going through chemo treatments like my father. Drawing blood and analyzing is annually is not a thing here & I've never heard of it being a thing anywhere before.
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No. Pretty much the only time blood is drawn and tested is when it is required for diagnosing an ailment or deficiency that is causing an undesirable symptom such as extreme fatigue or something. It may also be drawn and tested when it's determined that a full physical is in order, ie for men over 40 - especially if they're out of shape like my overweight twin brother. The only time that I have blood drawn is by a CDC nurse at a STI testing clinic. They send it off and test for any indication of HIV & other sexually transmitted infections, and it always comes back clean & negative because I practice safe sex. The only times I've ever heard of anyone having bloodwork done are when they are ill, super fatigued and trying to diagnose anemia, or going through chemo treatments like my father. Drawing blood and analyzing is annually is not a thing here & I've never heard of it being a thing anywhere before.
My GP insists on it. It's free anyway so I go along with it.
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No. Pretty much the only time blood is drawn and tested is when it is required for diagnosing an ailment or deficiency that is causing an undesirable symptom such as extreme fatigue or something. It may also be drawn and tested when it's determined that a full physical is in order, ie for men over 40 - especially if they're out of shape like my overweight twin brother. The only time that I have blood drawn is by a CDC nurse at a STI testing clinic. They send it off and test for any indication of HIV & other sexually transmitted infections, and it always comes back clean & negative because I practice safe sex. The only times I've ever heard of anyone having bloodwork done are when they are ill, super fatigued and trying to diagnose anemia, or going through chemo treatments like my father. Drawing blood and analyzing is annually is not a thing here & I've never heard of it being a thing anywhere before.
My GP insists on it. It's free anyway so I go along with it.
If it was common practice and/or my GP insisted upon it, I wouldn't be opposed to it either. But it's not a thing here and has never been suggested/recommended, not to me or anyone I know who does not have an ailment that requires their blood to be monitored. My HIV positive friends have bloodwork done regularly. My cancer patient friends, the same. Ditto for those I know with severe anemia. Other than that, the Only person I know that had unnecessary bloodwork done is the son of a doctor who wanted to see if his blood was healthier than his brothers, just for sibling rivalry's sake in who could best the other.
My very best guess as to why it's not done here, and the likely reason is... money. It's not "free," even if it's covered by our public health insurer. Everyone pays for it in taxes. Also, it's about prioritization & access to medical resources. Why create a backlog of healthy peoples' blood to test & delay analysis and results for sick people who need those medical services asap? Doesn't make sense to be testing 40 Million peoples' blood when only 2 Million of them may require it. If lab resources & funding were limitless, then yeah, by all means, I could see testing every persons blood regularly in order to catch whatever can be caught in bloodwork labs. But that's not the case here and medical resources have to be optimized in order to serve those who Need care vs. those who may simply be curious what their blood #'s & markers look like based on their diet/drug/alcohol use & lifestyle.
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No. Pretty much the only time blood is drawn and tested is when it is required for diagnosing an ailment or deficiency that is causing an undesirable symptom such as extreme fatigue or something. It may also be drawn and tested when it's determined that a full physical is in order, ie for men over 40 - especially if they're out of shape like my overweight twin brother. The only time that I have blood drawn is by a CDC nurse at a STI testing clinic. They send it off and test for any indication of HIV & other sexually transmitted infections, and it always comes back clean & negative because I practice safe sex. The only times I've ever heard of anyone having bloodwork done are when they are ill, super fatigued and trying to diagnose anemia, or going through chemo treatments like my father. Drawing blood and analyzing is annually is not a thing here & I've never heard of it being a thing anywhere before.
My GP insists on it. It's free anyway so I go along with it.
We actually have pretty crappy healthcare in Canada. They don't even do proper testing to rule out other similar disorders when they're diagnosing you. I've had to educate myself and insist on testing, often going to multiple doctors.
goldfish21
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No. Pretty much the only time blood is drawn and tested is when it is required for diagnosing an ailment or deficiency that is causing an undesirable symptom such as extreme fatigue or something. It may also be drawn and tested when it's determined that a full physical is in order, ie for men over 40 - especially if they're out of shape like my overweight twin brother. The only time that I have blood drawn is by a CDC nurse at a STI testing clinic. They send it off and test for any indication of HIV & other sexually transmitted infections, and it always comes back clean & negative because I practice safe sex. The only times I've ever heard of anyone having bloodwork done are when they are ill, super fatigued and trying to diagnose anemia, or going through chemo treatments like my father. Drawing blood and analyzing is annually is not a thing here & I've never heard of it being a thing anywhere before.
My GP insists on it. It's free anyway so I go along with it.
We actually have pretty crappy healthcare in Canada. They don't even do proper testing to rule out other similar disorders when they're diagnosing you. I've had to educate myself and insist on testing, often going to multiple doctors.
I don't feel we have crappy healthcare here, but I can relate in having to self diagnose things & then educate my GP, have him lookup the answers, and confirm with his official diagnosis for various things. But then again, I'm someone who has the capacity to learn these things and figure them out for myself, and am persistent enough to do so vs. accept that "something is wrong, docs don't know what it is & therefore nothing can be done about it." Several years ago when I figured out my ADHD diagnosis via others informing me of my symptoms and then researching online & utilizing The Amen Test as a diagnostic tool, my GP thanked me for bringing all of this to his attention as he then researched The Amen Test for himself and used it to diagnose others. I also researched my own prescription at the time & told him what I'd like to try, in what dose, and why. He looked it all up, confirmed, and wrote the 'scrip. That was ~7 years ago - and I took those pharmaceuticals for a couple years as needed, but haven't taken any for years now because they're no longer necessary.
Your location says West Coast of Canada.. how West Coast? ie Are you in my area or are you farther North where medical care is much more limited than it is in Metro Vancouver?
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It's funny how goldfish tries to downplay what he's trying to get autistic people to do being as simple as eating chicken soup, when he insists that the only way for his treatment, which he calls medicine, to work is if they follow an aggressive regimen.
People have said to him they are on probiotics and so on. But he keeps insisting that's no good enough, that they must follow his specific aggressive medicinal treatment to get results.
And the problem is that people with autism can be easily influenced to do things. They don't always have the best judgement and are often preyed upon and the victims of this. We have countless stories here from autistic people who let themselves get talked into something.
