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04 Nov 2010, 11:34 am

He's been in here more than 15 minutes. and i cant understand anything he says, apparently if you ask tahitiii its because hes only online for 15 minutes! i mean what a joke

i think hes an oppurtunist. someone mentioned that he should ask for money, (aspie guy)
and he did it


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04 Nov 2010, 12:29 pm

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Generally, WP is full of good people with open minds/hearts. They have given you all sorts of advice and you don't seem to be taking any of it in.
Get a hold of yourself man.
this is basically what i was saying, if you actually go back and read i was helpful to ASS-P and only recently told him to get a clue because he seems to be an emotional scammer. everything, hes complining about hes already said like 4567890 times! for what reasons? we get it. he's in a bad spot, but you can wear out you're welcome by constintly griping about your problems and not doing a thing about them


I don't believe he's in a bad spot at all.

The way he speaks and the whole "I only have 15 minutes at the library, so I have to sh*^ this out!".

If you actually read what he says and how he says it, it's like he's writing from another country - English as a second language (not that that's a bad thing) which adds to the whole "Con Man" issue here.

I honestly think that forum moderators should go back through his posts and see if this whole "won't someone pay me money for being a looser" is a running theme, and if so - kick his ass outa here!



...I am not on drugs , I am not lying about what I am saying here , I am talking , basically anyway , about th very small amount of SS money ( + my payee status ) which has been taken from me , it is not at all very much , but , it is EVERYTHING in my position ! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
I had spent the last yearandahalf-ish trying to deal 3with the EDCM people and hoping things would get better while dealing with waiting for the Dr. Brown mentioned to come back and , yes , being in a somewhat comfortable " homeless/semi-homeless rut " . I decided to get out of it , but with the EDCM people's control I am in a bad position now .
You are trying to have me kicked out , I don't feel , therefore , very kindly inclined towards you.........Yes , I guess I'm a " looser " . Perhaps I don't have Mommy paying/have paid for mmy computer !



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04 Nov 2010, 12:34 pm

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You sound like you really need help. I don't know if thats an option for you but perhaps it helps:
Save some money, then go to a city with a big harbor and look out for one of the huge container ships that transport goods form US to Europe. They also transport passengers. I think they are much cheaper than a plane. It will take way more time but if money is a problem, its a good option.
When you are in Europe travel via hitchhike to Germany, Austria, Sweden or Switzerland. You will get a home and medical help there, no matter if you have a passport or anything. You will also get help in finding a job and if thats impossible, we have lifelong shelters ( very good ones) for people who can't work.
I know its adventurous but if you can get enough money to travel you would have way more help here. ( If you choose to do this, I would suggest to go to switzerland, if you do so, call me and I can give you some good addresses where you can ask for help)




...Thank you , I think that's a bit extreme , such a thing as leaving the US without a passport might leave me outside of the US forever , and , for one thing because of my brother , I wouldn't like that :( .
I am really stuck here , with the people I mentioned's captivity of my SS I can't really go to New York , even ( And , BTW , I really don't think I could get into Europe without a passport/probably more , too . ) .
Still , we could talk about it , at least the " traveling " , if not nessecarily as far as what you suggest .
You know , I thought , for a moment , you were suggesting I shut myself inside a cargo package and go to Europe that way :? ! There is a song by the Velvet Underground called " The Gift " :) :wink: ...



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04 Nov 2010, 12:37 pm

slowly but shurely you're typing seems to be making ALOT more sence.

i wonder whats going on?


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04 Nov 2010, 12:39 pm

...I'll add ( I'm a little self-consious about this , I was going to mention this anyway . ) that , as a homeless person , I am not really a " young/beautiful/student-looking " type anymore ( Well , duh ! !! !! ! Look at my age :oops: ...I see kind of " latter-day hippie " homeless types around here , I'm thinking of one in particular I saw , with a well-packed backpack...Or , older ones , again with the ( Homeless giveaway - generally 8O . ) of one of those roll-out/" homeless "/yoga mats , this one with a thicker , browner , look...I can never pack a backpack like that , to start with , I'm all thumbs :x , plus , I'm POOR :( -can't get a " nice " backpack , etc. set...And , I get hung-up on " clean hands " AND! :P , I really AM all thumbs...



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04 Nov 2010, 12:43 pm

you're not beautiful looking?
you're all thumbs?
you're still homeless!?
you're all thumbs
you dont know how to pack
you're poor

I'm confused. is this something new, or have you already mentioned this?


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04 Nov 2010, 12:49 pm

Some of you people in this thread are about as callous as they come. I find your behavior particularily revolting considering most, if not all, of you have an autistic spectum or related disorder and really ought to know what it's like to be one of society's minority underdogs. Furthermore....I am familiar with the stated personal situations of some of you and like myself, your own circumstances are hardly light years better than ASS-P's. Some of you would be right there on the mean streets with him were it not for your parents, friends, significant others, government assistance, etc.....As for your alleged "proof" that he's running some sort of a scam....that doesn't exist and you know it. It is very possible that he is....but you have no way of proving that.... so stop pretending like you do.


If he is not a scammer....then the last thing he needs is to read a bunch of self-righteous accusations and demeaning, dehumanizing crap. Do you not realize by now that your "bootstraps" and "man-up" rhetoric sounds an awful lot like what ignorant NT's often subject us to? A recent poster referred to ASS-P as a "looser". I hope this poster is at least consistent and voted for the most extreme right-wing, social darwinist, self-serving, self-entitled, hedonistic, nihilistic and sadistic republican candidates in the recent election. Further still....I hope this poster does not call themselves a christian because they have naught in common with Jesus Christ and he might just reject you on the judgment day :x



NONE of you have the slightest idea of this man's life story. You know NOTHING about the extent and nature of his mental/neurological and physical conditions. You know NOTHING about his life experiences....they may well be experiences that would freeze your very blood. Yet aside from your advice that maybe,through no fault of his own, he hasn't applied, none of you can offer him anything except verbal abuse and derogatory name-calling. This sort of cruelty is wholly unacceptable any way you slice it and some of you ought to be greatly ashamed of yourselves. Let's say he is in the exact situation he claims to be and IS trying to get money or some other assistance from us. Ask yourselves what you would do if your circumstances were similar or identical. I guess all of you are too saintly and "strong" to ask for shelter when the wolf is howling at your feet eh??? :roll:


If you do not wish to offer him any assistance because you believe he's a scammer or that he's just irresponsible...fair enough. Heck....even if you don't wish to offer him assistance simply because you're selfish...I have no beef with that either. If that is the case however.....I don't understand what's so difficult about simply keeping your big self-righteous traps shut rather than offering him a bunch of opprobriums which are likely motivated by your own petty and vulgar malice and not "tough love" or something.


May I remind some of you that the whirlpool of idiotic and unfounded invectives you have hurled against ASS-P all stem from the implicit and arrogant belief in free will? Since some of you in this group like to flaunt your f**king IQ scores as if they're some sort of badge of honor or something, may I also remind you that Einstein was a determinist and so were, or are, countless other geniuses? I can assure you of one thing at least...."free will" (assuming humans have any in the first place)....had little or nothing to do with your IQ scores. As an atheist determinist myself....I would still call a high IQ a blessing in the figurative sense. So instead of sitting in front of your computer screen like a bunch of cowardly and self-satisfied little worms hurling abuse and disingenous "tough love" rhetoric at someone who is likely in situation which would drive you to suicide, why don't you say, "but for the grace of god...there go I" and then consider using whatever talents you possess to better the lives of others???


A novel idea I know.....but one that, if humans ever actually begin to apply, might just (horror of horrors!! ! :roll: ) make this world a kinder and gentler place for all....yourselves included.


If there was something I could do to help ASS-P....I would. I currently have $69.00 to my name however and FORTUNATELY for me, I live with family who currently provides all my basic living expenses. Hopefully OVR will able to find me a job before the end of the month. If not.....i'm just going to have to look for one on my own and i'm sure some of you realize how difficult that can be for people with Asperger's/ASDs/NLD and similar disorders. There's always the wonderful decision of whether to "disclose or not to disclose", just to mention one thing. At least the employers that OVR sends you to know what to expect and are obviously willing to hire people with ASDs and maybe other disabilities in general. In any case....there is nothing I CAN do for ASS-P at the moment.


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A few weeks ago....I told you that Key West, Florida might be a better option in terms of a location which is relatively commodious for the homeless. On second thought....i'm not so sure about this for several reasons. For one thing, if you have a diabetic foot wound, it may be more likely to become infected in the hothouse humid subtropical/tropical climate of South Florida. Also....sleeping outdoors would likely be more agreeable for you in Key West FROM NOV-APR. From May-Oct....even the nighttime low temps usually don't fall below 80 degrees in Key West and the humidity is simply beastly. That is the rainy season as well and it often rains hard enough for the streets to flood. There are also alot of insects and the mosquitoes in particular may be of significant concern to the homeless in Key West right now. We have had several cases of Dengue fever in South Florida in recent years and AFAIK, the majority of these cases occured in the Florida Keys. While Dengue fever is an extremely unpleasant thing for anyone, I would guess it could very well be fatal for someone in your stated condition.


Also....I honestly don't think I could find you a job in Key West as I don't think there's much you can do in your condition. Job opportunities are limited there (as they are everywhere right now) and for someone like you, most jobs that you may qualify for in Key West would entail some significant physical labor which you don't seem capable of handling at this time. Beyond this...I honestly don't know what to tell you other than what many others have told you in this thread and others that you've started. Please ignore the posters who have criticized you in such an unworthy, unnecessary and unfounded way. They are likely people with a poor self-peception who feel the need to demean and criticize others in order to feel better about themselves. I have a few friends here in South Florida who MIGHT be willing to take you in for at least some period of time. I know they would be UNABLE to do so now though since their own financial situations are precarious at best. At any rate....I sincerely hope something works out for you soon and if I could, I would do whatever takes to get you into a more stable and agreeable situation. I am a step away from homeless myself right now though and there's just nothing I can offer you aside from moral support. That being said, feel free to PM me anytime you wish to. :)



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04 Nov 2010, 12:58 pm

First off all, I have ben homeless before. didnt i mention this? I know exactly how this guy feels.
Second of all, Flaunting my IQ score? WOW! i didnt know having a IQ of 86 was something to brag about,

Third of all, I am not de-humazing ANYONE. Asking someone to do for themselves, IS hardly a De-humanizing ACTION.

Fourth whats that about jesus christ? He tought personal responsibility! most suckers have his message twisted. so get it right, jesus christ would tell him the same thing :roll:

Ass-P has worn his welcome out here with his complaining and the lot of us are tired of it!


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04 Nov 2010, 1:03 pm

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He's been in here more than 15 minutes. and i cant understand anything he says, apparently if you ask tahitiii its because hes only online for 15 minutes! i mean what a joke

i think hes an oppurtunist. someone mentioned that he should ask for money, (aspie guy)
and he did it



RichardBenson....do you mind if I ask you who or what is supporting you at the moment?


Do you have a job?


From what I can glean from your posts.....you are primarily supported by family and/or government assistance of some kind. If so and if this support was taken away from you...exactly how well do you think you'd fare on the streets??? For one thing...i've seen pics of you and you hardly look like a very physically intimidating person. That alone is likely to make you vunerable to various predatory individuals if you were homeless.

You have made your point several times already. The fact that I think it is stupid, callous, disingenous and not supported by sufficient evidence is immaterial. The fact that you are now being redundant likely for no other reason than having nothing better to do is not. IOW....why don't you STFU already and leave ASS-P alone?



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04 Nov 2010, 1:10 pm

My Family does not support me. I get disability, but before i got it i was homeless!

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS.

If you cant support yourself, there are means for getting HELP.

WICH ASS-P DOESNT SEEM TO TAKE. I MEAN FFS!

I dont mean to yell but its like WOW!


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04 Nov 2010, 1:30 pm

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First off all, I have ben homeless before. didnt i mention this? I know exactly how this guy feels.
Second of all, Flaunting my IQ score? WOW! i didnt know having a IQ of 86 was something to brag about,

Third of all, I am not de-humazing ANYONE. Asking someone to do for themselves, IS hardly a De-humanizing ACTION.

Fourth whats that about jesus christ? He tought personal responsibility! most suckers have his message twisted. so get it right, jesus christ would tell him the same thing :roll:

Ass-P has worn his welcome out here with his complaining and the lot of us are tired of it!





How long were you homeless? Did you have a diabetic foot wound or any other serious medical conditions? I wasn't speaking of YOUR IQ score and frankly, I don't care what it is. Other posters on WP constantly flaunt their own however and I wouldn't doubt if some of them are the same posters who have been giving ASS-P a bunch of grief in this thread. You COULD him to "do for himself" in more positive and encouraging manner you know. Why don't you simply say "Hey ASS-P do you think action Y might work for and if not....why not"? If "action Y" doesn't work for him....then why not move on to action X? May I remind you that you also have NO IDEA....I repeat....NO IDEA....of what ASS-P is CAPABLE of "doing for himself" and what he is not.

Ah....another person who knows precisely what Jesus taught. It's nice to know your personal relationship with him is so strong that you know exactly what he would've told ASS-P. :roll: The fact that you are pretending to speak for the omniscient god speaks volumes of you my friend.

Again....I hardly believe your alleged weariness with ASS-P is motivated by his "complaining". Rather....I think you are just getting some personal satisfaction out of implying (and that's precisely what you're doing and you know it) that you're a superior being and that he's just dirt on the shoes of society. Needless to say....you could easily just choose not to respond to his posts if you're really so tired of them. It is truly sad that you don't seem to have anything more productive and life-affirming (at least something which affirms and edifies your own existence) to do. I really feel sorry for people who insist on excoriating others when they don't even know their a** from a hole in ground about the personal situation of those in question. Why don't you go and play with your cat or something? Just about anything you could do right now is better than what you having been doing in this thread. If not....continue to embarrass yourself for the sake of bolstering your own self-esteem in a perverted, ineffectual, idiotic and callous manner. I have nothing else to say to you since, unlike yourself apparently, I don't care to be redundant and boring.



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04 Nov 2010, 1:32 pm

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My Family does not support me. I get disability, but before i got it i was homeless!

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS.

If you cant support yourself, there are means for getting HELP.

WICH ASS-P DOESNT SEEM TO TAKE. I MEAN FFS!

I dont mean to yell but its like WOW!





Didn't he say he is not receiving his money for some reason that is largely, if not entirely, beyond his control???



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04 Nov 2010, 1:37 pm

Yes, i believe MORE THAN ONCE. wich he seems to do nothing about! exept complain

you are missing the whole point of my argument. WE are tired of hearing him gripe!

He can get help, He wont. he'd rather sit here and say how he isnt beautiful, Poor and wants to go to college.

What are WE supse to do? indefinatly listen to his moaning? NO THANKS.


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04 Nov 2010, 1:41 pm

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Yes, i believe MORE THAN ONCE. wich he seems to do nothing about! exept complain

you are missing the whole point of my argument. WE are tired of hearing him gripe!

He can get help, He wont. he'd rather sit here and say how he isnt beautiful, Poor and wants to go to college.

What are WE supse to do? indefinatly listen to his moaning? NO THANKS.





If you don't like it then the rational and fair solution should be obvious and if it is not obvious to you, you really are dense.



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04 Nov 2010, 1:44 pm

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I think you are just getting some personal satisfaction out of implying (and that's precisely what you're doing and you know it) that you're a superior being and that he's just dirt on the shoes of society. Needless to say....you could easily just choose not to respond to his posts if you're really so tired of them.
and where did i say this? i never said i was a better person than ASS-P or he was dirt under my shoe, I told him to help himself! my god call the queen! i mean really! now your talking out of your ass, and are making wild assumtions about my motives in this topic


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04 Nov 2010, 1:49 pm

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If you don't like it then the rational and fair solution should be obvious and if it is not obvious to you, you really are dense.
nope. and yes i am dense, you have no right nor does anybody to tell me what i can and cant reply too


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