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09 Jan 2006, 3:38 pm

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.org/autisticprideday/

There is some information on it at that link. Yep, it's called "Autistic Pride Day"



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09 Jan 2006, 3:46 pm

Autistic Pride Day right.

I'll read it. Thank you for the direcion to the site.

Gracias.



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09 Jan 2006, 8:37 pm

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*At the Autistic Day Parade*

Savant: "Oh, look at me, everyone! I can recite all of Shakespeare's plays off by heart! Does that make you aware of my autism?"

Onlooker: "No, it just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Natch."

I don't get this. I celebrate being autistic by living every day of my life, and yet I don't feel the need to have some politically-correct day where I wear some stupid ribbon, eat cotton candy, and showing off my savant skills by walking on stilts and wearing a red nose, because that's the kind of crap cliques seem to adhere -- the need to feel special and unique -- and being autistic doesn't make be special, just who I am, and I am content with just that.

And I only create awareness only to the people that want to get to know me better, not the a**holes who think I am stupid because it's a waste of time trying to get people to understand when they simply do not like you for being you, so I don't feel the need to ram it down their throats, thanks. There are also facilites, conferences, online forums that do a better job in creating awareness than some stupid day, which is celebrating something regarded as "diverse" that I don't really see the big deal why it must be celebrated for.


Ok, I got to thinking about this again, and I cant understand why you wouldnt want others to know and understandyour condition better. Wouldnt that lend itself to better relations all the way around?


Because I have my "Autism Alert!" card given to me by the National Autistic Society, which contains a leaflet explaining to my employer or whoever about my condition -- that has more use than this nonsense of a day which I could care less about.

At the end of the day, this isn't the perfect world, so don't expect everyone to be understanding.



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09 Jan 2006, 9:41 pm

Their intentions are good. So we can't tear them up too badly. :)



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10 Jan 2006, 2:02 am

thepeaguy wrote:
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*At the Autistic Day Parade*

Savant: "Oh, look at me, everyone! I can recite all of Shakespeare's plays off by heart! Does that make you aware of my autism?"

Onlooker: "No, it just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Natch."

I don't get this. I celebrate being autistic by living every day of my life, and yet I don't feel the need to have some politically-correct day where I wear some stupid ribbon, eat cotton candy, and showing off my savant skills by walking on stilts and wearing a red nose, because that's the kind of crap cliques seem to adhere -- the need to feel special and unique -- and being autistic doesn't make be special, just who I am, and I am content with just that.

And I only create awareness only to the people that want to get to know me better, not the a**holes who think I am stupid because it's a waste of time trying to get people to understand when they simply do not like you for being you, so I don't feel the need to ram it down their throats, thanks. There are also facilites, conferences, online forums that do a better job in creating awareness than some stupid day, which is celebrating something regarded as "diverse" that I don't really see the big deal why it must be celebrated for.


Ok, I got to thinking about this again, and I cant understand why you wouldnt want others to know and understandyour condition better. Wouldnt that lend itself to better relations all the way around?


Because I have my "Autism Alert!" card given to me by the National Autistic Society, which contains a leaflet explaining to my employer or whoever about my condition -- that has more use than this nonsense of a day which I could care less about.

At the end of the day, this isn't the perfect world, so don't expect everyone to be understanding.


I'm currently looking for employment and the job market is ridiculously competative. Today, I interviewed for a customer service position at a cable company and you'd think with the kind of questions they asked I was interviewing for the CIA. Why in the world would I want to risk an already slim chance of a company hiring me by letting them know I'm Autistic? Every single employer that's hiring wants someone who's practically perfect, even for menial positions.

I feel like I'm living in a catch 22 world sometimes, because I can't explain my nervousness at job interviews as Asperger's related as they'd just view it as a weakness. Yet they know I'm different because of the way I act no matter how hard I try to hide it. I'm proud of who I am but I have to pay food and rent and the very thing that's my life may keep me from having a life at all.

:cry: :cry: :cry:


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10 Jan 2006, 2:30 am

I don't see AS as a defect or something that holds me back. I don't see it as something that makes me better than anyone else. You can't define one's life by AS. Some NT's just want to slack off and be a crook while some AS people work hard to live a comfortable, productive life. On the other hand, some NT's work hard to make somthing of themselves, and then there was Will Freund. If I ever make something of myself, AS will have only been the method, and it has strengths and weaknesses, but I would not consider it the primary road to success as if AS somehow entitled me to it. That is something that only one's character can take credit or blame for, and character (or lack thereof) transends all diagnoses and labels.



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10 Jan 2006, 2:45 am

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The reason for your nervousness, is because you are not afforded rights under the law.
It seems like every minority besides autistics have organized and educated the rest of civilized (if i may) society. Nobody that i have ever spoken with has known that there is a high functioning form of autism.
Some times it is necessary for one group of people to take one step back in an effort to move two steps forward. In this instance, the step back would be facing society, eye to eye and educating.
Moving forward in the process, There is no reason why you should not be afforded rights under discrimination policies covered in the American Disabilities Act. You have to be questioned and nervous or afraid to explain your situation. That is a load of crap. You should be able to walk in to the interview and say i am Autistic, and then they should be afraid NOT to hire you for reasons of discrimination.
Other minority groups, with disabilities are covered. Other minority groups are covered against discrimination because of other laws. I do not think that people deserve special treatment, however the playing field has got to be leveled.


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10 Jan 2006, 3:48 am

SB2, visit my website.

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10 Jan 2006, 4:14 am

Steve_Cory

You have unique site for sure in the end. There is some good information on it too.


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10 Jan 2006, 6:14 am

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10 Jan 2006, 3:03 pm

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I agree with thepeaguy.

Generalisations in any way shape or form are stupid. They can get people into a lot of trouble, also.


We included you generalized all the time. We don't conversate on things that are factual for the most part. We based it on opnions, generalization and thing along those line.

So your own opinion is flawed. :wink:



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10 Jan 2006, 4:10 pm

Thanks for visiting my site. Thank you very much. :D



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10 Jan 2006, 5:45 pm

Steve_Cory wrote:
Thanks for visiting my site. Thank you very much. :D



Masons story was moving.

I am encouraged by you and the clear plan you are drafting for your life.
Do not ever allow anyone else the right to mold you into something you are not. You have a good head on your shoulder and appear focused. Keep your head up, and your eyes fixed on achieving your goals.
and welcome to the future mindset of a confident Union,
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10 Jan 2006, 6:06 pm

Quote:
Masons story was moving.

I am encouraged by you and the clear plan you are drafting for your life.
Do not ever allow anyone else the right to mold you into something you are not. You have a good head on your shoulder and appear focused. Keep your head up, and your eyes fixed on achieving your goals.
and welcome to the future mindset of a confident Union,
Robert (SB²)


Yes Sir! :D

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10 Jan 2006, 9:27 pm

thepeaguy wrote:
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Agreed - Gay pride is acceptable, racial pride is acceptable, so why shouldn't autistic pride be acceptable?


I see no reason why it isn't. Cannot argue with your reasoning. It is sound.


Pardon me for being an anus, but I find the whole concept of revolving Autistic Pride Day where autistics make a spectacle of one's self in these festivals by building a mountain made out of lego or showing off their other savant skills, for example, stomach churning because we're acting like clowns for the "norms" personal amusement, and I ain't society's b****.


I've been busy, so I didn't respond earlier - I didn't say anything about Autistic Pride *DAY*, I refered to Autistic pride as a generalisation



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11 Jan 2006, 12:36 am

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As sophist pointed out i think the cure that is being researched most into and the most likely (at least far into the future) to come about is pre-natal screening for abortion of autistics as we have now for people with downs syndrome.

This is hypothetical at the moment as autistics isnt a noticeable genetic difference like Downs syndrome is and there is no way of telling an autistic in any way other than behaviour in an adult which makes being able to tell the difference in the womb impossible, at least for now.


They won't do that :!: :!: :!:


Why not? Doctors already give the option of aborting kids that are noticeably disabled in the womb so what makes you think they wont do it with autistic kids if they have the knowledge and technology to do so in the future?