More about my situation.
I was talking about Antigone. That if she could do something that works, that would be great.
The only solution that I can see is for him to live in an apartment for people over 55 with chronic diseases. And ASS-P has to do the rest. I don't have any "answers."
I see nothing wrong with at least trying. If, somehow, one succeeds, then that would be great.
I have seen people make the "seemingly impossible" possible. There are great people in this world who can do this.
In the 1950's, it was thought "impossible" to overthrow Jim Crow (discrimination against black people) in the South. However, over about 10 years or so, people managed to "make the impossible possible" by overthrowing 80 years of Jim Crow, which came after 300 years of slavery.
The only solution that I can see is for him to live in an apartment for people over 55 with chronic diseases. And ASS-P has to do the rest.
I see nothing wrong with at least trying. If, somehow, one succeeds, then that would be great.
He's not pleading for an apartment. He's pleading for someone on WP to somehow do something about storing stuff for him. And sitting down with him to give him computer lessons. And driving him to places. And helping him get into a university.
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If the lawyer can, somehow, send the pictures to him online, it would provide much less of an excuse for him to gripe.
I don't see how being by himself is going to make things easier for him.
But as for the apartment you are suggesting, I think if he can swing getting multiple surgeries and getting into care facilities, he can swing applying for housing. And don't you think people who run rehab care facilities, know how to set people up for housing? Plus all the resources Red Robin gave him?
ASS-P already said the pictures are buried somewhere in a pile of stuff that the lawyer can't get to. It's not like the guy has an envelope of them on his desk. That option has been ruled out.
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Actually . . . there is a definition to bullying. I'm taking the definition from the website:
http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/ ... lying.page
"This definition includes three important components:
1. Bullying is aggressive behavior that involves unwanted, negative actions.
2. Bullying involves a pattern of behavior repeated over time.
3. Bullying involves an imbalance of power or strength."
All three of these criteria have been met by members posting on this thread.
1. There has occurred a lot of aggressive behavior aimed at ASS-P in the form of derogatory statements, name calling, character assassination, etc. He has indicated that this is unwanted, and unappreciated, and other members have expressed their distress and dismay over this behavior, even if moderators have failed to do so.
2. The behavior has been repeated, over time.
3. There is an imbalance of power since multiple people who seem to be more able, and have access to assistance are joining forces and uniting in an alliance to support this unwanted, negative behavior towards ASS-P. (He is one, and you are many.)
This thread meets the definition of bullying precisely.
How can the lawyer not get to the pictures? It's more like the lawyer doesn't want to make the effort. Or maybe thinks he/she doesn't have the time.
If he has his own place, he has an ADDRESS. This would make it easier for him to receive his stuff.
Haven't I been saying that ASS-P has to do some of the work, too?
I guess you missed the part where he said the lawyer is like 90 years old and the stuff is all packed away someplace. Why don't you get the lawyer's number from ASS-P and give the guy a call to find out?
What's he going to do about groceries? And laundry? If he can't shop for groceries and get them home, he's going to end up having to go to a convenience store and subsist on hot dogs and other junk food that may have lead to him becoming 240 lbs (minus water weight).
Work which he has staunchly insisted that he is not capable of.
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http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/ ... lying.page
"This definition includes three important components:
1. Bullying is aggressive behavior that involves unwanted, negative actions.
2. Bullying involves a pattern of behavior repeated over time.
3. Bullying involves an imbalance of power or strength."
All three of these criteria have been met by members posting on this thread.
1. There has occurred a lot of aggressive behavior aimed at ASS-P in the form of derogatory statements, name calling, character assassination, etc. He has indicated that this is unwanted, and unappreciated, and other members have expressed their distress and dismay over this behavior, even if moderators have failed to do so.
2. The behavior has been repeated, over time.
3. There is an imbalance of power since multiple people who seem to be more able, and have access to assistance are joining forces and uniting in an alliance to support this unwanted, negative behavior towards ASS-P. (He is one, and you are many.)
This thread meets the definition of bullying precisely.
Have you pressed the Report button on any of these posts and reported them?
...I can do thinga, however, now; especially with my crippled-Ness /slowness situation, some additional help - in connections, etcetera - could be helpful!
I can go to the library, but it's harder. With it only being open at odd times, arranging things with that storage place would be hard! That info Red Robin gave could be helpful - With some additional helo it could be better yet, adding on to what I could do myself. Goldfish, as I have pointed out, simply berated me as not having done what he in fact didn't tell me what he wanted me to do, he simply boasted about how, when I was in Seattle, he thought of contacting me but didn't!
Right now, I am waiting for a response from the lawyer of my parents before I say anything more to him - and I would have to go over to that HL storage place at an odd hour to see if anything could be done with them.
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
I can go to the library, but it's harder. With it only being open at odd times, arranging things with that storage place would be hard! That info Red Robin gave could be helpful - With some additional helo it could be better yet, adding on to what I could do myself. Goldfish, as I have pointed out, simply berated me as not having done what he in fact didn't tell me what he wanted me to do, he simply boasted about how, when I was in Seattle, he thought of contacting me but didn't!
Right now, I am waiting for a response from the lawyer of my parents before I say anything more to him - and I would have to go over to that HL storage place at an odd hour to see if anything could be done with them.
If I bullied you in any way, I didn't mean to and I apologize.
goldfish21
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Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Getting around? redrobin62 posted a few resources for you that will be able to help you get around where you are. Read the information, phone/email them. Utilize their services.
"Making connections" What does this request for help even mean? What connections do you want someone on the forum to help you make? You're repeatedly asking for help without being specific about what the help is that you're seeking. No one can help you from their computer on a forum with a request to "make connections." Has a cord come unplugged? Are you playing a game of connect 4? Are you looking for a friend-of-a-forum-member in the business world to make a sale to or request employment from?
Help with learning how to use computers better.. several people have suggested YouTube videos or other online resources. You've refused to try, insisting that you need "help" beyond that. More than one person has suggested going to your local library and asking whoever's working to show you a few things if they have time to do so. You could do that every single day until you learned all you wanted to about how to use a computer to access the internet or produce a document of any sort - all the skills required and then some to successfully navigate academia, in tech terms anyways.
You have AMPLE help available to you locally and some really truly good suggestions from people all over the globe - yet you insist on shooting down any possibility of trying to do anything to see if it helps your situation. You have less than zero appreciation for the, literally, GLOBAL effort to respond to your requests for help.
http://www.violencepreventionworks.org/ ... lying.page
"This definition includes three important components:
1. Bullying is aggressive behavior that involves unwanted, negative actions.
2. Bullying involves a pattern of behavior repeated over time.
3. Bullying involves an imbalance of power or strength."
All three of these criteria have been met by members posting on this thread.
1. There has occurred a lot of aggressive behavior aimed at ASS-P in the form of derogatory statements, name calling, character assassination, etc. He has indicated that this is unwanted, and unappreciated, and other members have expressed their distress and dismay over this behavior, even if moderators have failed to do so.
2. The behavior has been repeated, over time.
3. There is an imbalance of power since multiple people who seem to be more able, and have access to assistance are joining forces and uniting in an alliance to support this unwanted, negative behavior towards ASS-P. (He is one, and you are many.)
This thread meets the definition of bullying precisely.
IF anything, it's ASS-P's hostile behaviour that could be considered bullying towards others. However, we accept that he is the way he is and don't take his rants & insults personally. He's just venting & not truly doing any of us any harm, so we ignore his abuse for the most part and just let him kick a little sand around in his sandbox of a thread if that's what he needs to do for himself right now.
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...I do have basic meals at the rehab place -
Again, Goldfishh turns his thinking he'd contact me and not doing so into " I helped him and he didn't do right "
!
With my physical difficulty in getting out, my rules conflict with the rehab on doing so, and as far down as I am
(and not having much tech) it is harder for me to get things done for the general " you "
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tiekortie"]ASS-P can shop for groceries----the problem is the expense; supermarkets which require cars are far cheaper than those in "inner cities."
He can also do his own laundry. He used to do it in his previous shelter.[/quote]
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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!
goldfish21
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Joined: 17 Feb 2013
Age: 43
Gender: Male
Posts: 22,612
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Again, Goldfishh turns his thinking he'd contact me and not doing so into " I helped him and he didn't do right "
With my physical difficulty in getting out, my rules conflict with the rehab on doing so, and as far down as I am
Why are you carrying on about what I said as if it has any relevance whatsoever to you making forward progress?
You once lived close enough to me that I COULD HAVE driven some survival supplies to you. BUT, you were so resistant to help or trying to do anything for yourself whatsoever that it would have been a complete waste of time & money for me to cross an international border and drive about 3 hours each way. (burning about $80 in fuel at today's prices) You were so miserable and shooting down any and every suggestion of assistance back then, just as you are now, that it would have been an exercise in absolute futility. Those resources & gas money are better spent helping someone who's receptive to help and actually does something with advice or resources offered. Period. End of story.
Ok, so you're incapable of leaving the building where you are currently living in order to go to a library or any other place for help. Now that you've made that clear, what are you expecting of people on this forum to do for you? Fly, or drive, to Santa Cruz and come be by your bedside for you to ignore their advice in person? Be realistic, ASS-P. As EzraS has pointed out, you're not looking for advice or help at all, you're asking for someone to essentially adopt you and hold your hand through every moment of accomplishing anything for yourself & that's a completely unreasonable expectation of the sort of help that you're going to be able to solicit from an internet forum of strangers living all over the globe. Be realistic about what you're asking for, and then be appreciative of all the advice you're given, and then DO something with some of it to better yourself. Otherwise, do as you've always done and get as you've always got... a few years from now you'll be making the same posts as you are right now just as you were a few years ago.
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Reply to Everybody:
Firstly, I agree 100% with everything Goldfish and Ezra have said in this thread. They said pretty much everything I wanted to say, except for this. This is a public internet discussion forum, not a corner on which to panhandle. Its inappropriate to ask for *ANY* favors from anybody here. I live in Chicago, so I see panhandlers every day. And they usually come equiped with a cardboard sign with a sob story on them. And thats just what ASS P posts at the end of EVERY post. His "Sig message" is the online equivelent of just such a card board sign.
NOBODY here owes ANYBODY ANYTHING. In spite of this, people HAVE offered him real physical help, most notably OliveOilMom. Plainjane, I was the one who posted the post saying that no one here was stealing anything from ASS P. But I see you didnt read the rest of the post. Track it through my profile and do so, thanks.
