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11 May 2018, 8:51 pm
EzraS wrote:
It's funny how goldfish tries to downplay what he's trying to get autistic people to do being as simple as eating chicken soup, when he insists that the only way for his treatment, which he calls medicine, to work is if they follow an aggressive regimen.
People have said to him they are on probiotics and so on. But he keeps insisting that's no good enough, that they must follow his specific aggressive medicinal treatment to get results.
And the problem is that people with autism can be easily influenced to do things. They don't always have the best judgement and are often preyed upon and the victims of this. We have countless stories here from autistic people who let themselves get talked into something.
People have said to him they are on probiotics and so on. But he keeps insisting that's no good enough, that they must follow his specific aggressive medicinal treatment to get results.
And the problem is that people with autism can be easily influenced to do things. They don't always have the best judgement and are often preyed upon and the victims of this. We have countless stories here from autistic people who let themselves get talked into something.
It is medicine.
I tell the truth that ~70+% of the benefits I achieve for myself are not due to my diet, and without the intestinal cleanse protocol I follow & delivering medicine directly to the tissues and organs that I do, I don’t get nearly the same benefits.
Really, EzraS? So easily influenced and pursueded that exactly zero of the regulars here have been willing to try what I do in order to see if it works for them?
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11 May 2018, 8:53 pm
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One size - in human affairs - never fits all. Goldfish is well intentioned I am sure, though individual differences in a very heterogenous group reinforces the futility of advocating something as a total solution for everyone in a diverse group.
I am 100% well intentioned.
This may not work for everyone, but I believe it well help the many who’s symptoms are caused by the same thing.
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11 May 2018, 9:01 pm
EzraS wrote:
B19 wrote:
One size - in human affairs - never fits all. Goldfish is well intentioned I am sure, though individual differences in a very heterogenous group reinforces the futility of advocating something as a total solution for everyone in a diverse group.
You know that some autistic people can be easily influenced and or manipulated into doing something. I don't think someone trying so vigorously to convince them to try something like this should be allowed in an autistic support forum. That a line needs to be be drawn somewhere.
Anyone else notice one of the things he keeps harping on the most is how much financial success it's supposedly brought him?
Why should anyone who’s figured out how to relieve these symptoms be disallowed from sharing how they’ve managed to do it? I’ve read others openly recommending pharmaceuticals like Paxil which have possible side effects of suicidal thoughts. Now that’s a potentially harmful treatment suggestion.
I lay it out transparently the way it is because figuring out how to treat and control my symptoms the way that I do enables me to function highly enough to work more than full time instead of not at all 6 years ago. On average, I’ve made significantly less than an average wage over the last 5 years, but I’ve managed to save and invest tens of thousands of dollars which had a peak value of $134K in January. Less now, but it will rise again. I share this because being able to keep symptoms under control well enough to work, save, and invest is prosperous for anyone in the long run & it’s evidence of how much my life has changed over the last 5 or so years. I’m not a materialistic person (or I would spend my money on things) but some may be motivated to improve their health and functioning levels by wanting to be more able to work & earn money, so, I share about this part of my life just as transparently as any other.
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11 May 2018, 9:05 pm
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Goldfish never mentions that enemas can actually be dangerous. I don't have the energy to debate him as doggedly as Ezra does, but I tend to agree with Ezra that he shouldn't be allowed to promote his agenda on here. He is not a qualified health care provider, and yet he writes with messianic zeal. I find goldfish sort of scary.
He also baits and insults people. I've seen him do that to ASS-P, and he called me a "nasty old woman." Who needs this?
He also baits and insults people. I've seen him do that to ASS-P, and he called me a "nasty old woman." Who needs this?
I provided the links I read about them in my post 5 years ago that give all the info about dos and don’ts and health and safety precaustions. I have never ever written my own instructions not advised anyone how to do these things. The information is readily available on the internet, at links I’ve shared and elsewhere.
I’m scary because I share the things that have worked so well for me that I’m living a second life for it? Okay.
I said you were a nasty old woman for someone using Bea Arthur’s picture.. after you were very nasty and rude towards me.
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11 May 2018, 9:11 pm
If probiotics and antibiotics have no affect on autism symptoms, how do you explain this father’s findings that certain antibiotics improve his autistic son’s functioning while others make it worse?
http://www.nofone.org/
My story is not unique. There are many other people in this world who have learned, or are learning, these things.
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11 May 2018, 9:12 pm
If probiotics and antibiotics have no affect on autism symptoms, how do you explain this father’s findings that certain antibiotics improve his autistic son’s functioning while others make it worse?
http://www.nofone.org/
My story is not unique. There are many other people in this world who have learned, or are learning, these things.
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for supporting trump. Because doing so is deplorable.11 May 2018, 9:14 pm
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11 May 2018, 9:18 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
It is medicine.
I tell the truth that ~70+% of the benefits I achieve for myself are not due to my diet, and without the intestinal cleanse protocol I follow & delivering medicine directly to the tissues and organs that I do, I don’t get nearly the same benefits.
I tell the truth that ~70+% of the benefits I achieve for myself are not due to my diet, and without the intestinal cleanse protocol I follow & delivering medicine directly to the tissues and organs that I do, I don’t get nearly the same benefits.
And you have no clue as to what the long term side effects might be. Because you don't really know much about medicine. You're just some anonymous guy off the street with zero credentials in healthcare, basically acting as an unlicensed wannabe dietitian.
goldfish21 wrote:
Really, EzraS? So easily influenced and pursueded that exactly zero of the regulars here have been willing to try what I do in order to see if it works for them?
Many times there has there been concern expressed over ass-p trying to get autistic people to do stuff - concern expressed by you - regarding some noob or lurkers.
I did the intensely medicinal thing for about a couple years and have now been doing the less intense maintenance thing for a few years. 5 years on and I am very healthy. There have been many (non asd) people before me who have done regular enemas for their entire adult lives. Feel free to google. This is not a new phenomenon.
I have never claimed to be a dietician. I have told you the diet I follow is extremely similar to the GAPS diet, which is written by a very well qualified doctor. I’ve told you I am an autistic man who has figured out how to alleviate his symptoms well enough to function in social society better now than ever in my life. That’s it that’s all & it won’t change until such a time I have different credentials than the ones I have - and that will happen over the next several years. I’ve been transparent about the fact that I am going to spend all of my time and money to pursue a career in medicine. You can do whatever you want with yours, but that’s what I’m going to do with mine.
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11 May 2018, 9:23 pm
EzraS wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
I am 100% well intentioned.
There's a reason why they say the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Lot's bad things have occured as the result of good but misguided irresponsible intentions.
Oh the irony.. it’s just dripping in this post.
You think you are saving someone from doing something that will harm them. Instead you are deterring them from healing themselves and living a better life with their AS symptoms under control.
I understand that you believe you are well intentioned, but unfortunately your actions are harmful to the discussion of treating the root digestive cause of many peoples’ ASD symptoms.
I’ve already told you that you’re welcome to come to my home and speak to me in person. I-5 North, 10 miles passed the border. Just let me know how many are coming for dinner and I’ll prepare something decent.
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