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28 Jul 2009, 8:23 pm

I like it, although I feel obliged to point out that there's an apostrophe missing. :wink: It should read, "wits' end".

Sorry about the pedantry, but as it was being discussed in such detail ...



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28 Jul 2009, 8:26 pm

I think you should keep it, it is your opinion after all. You cant please everyone.

But, in reality all humans have a reptilian layer to their brains which helps them breathe and digest without thinking. Therefore it is silly to single out autistics and compare them to reptiles, when actually we all have an important layer of reptile in us, and would die without it.

So I think the most accurate statement would be:

Cleopatra, the sacred, Egyptian Crocodile Queen, clutches the blessed serpent to her breast, and expires.


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28 Jul 2009, 8:45 pm

Quoting Feyhera:

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Cleopatra, in love and at her wits end, clutches the blessed serpent to her breast, and expires.


:lmao:

Well, now that you have beatified the serpent, it works well for all of us. :wtg: We're all winners. Yeah!

This just goes to show all of us, I think, the healing qualities of a good sense of humor. We tend to get way too serious at times, I know I do. And the shoe throwing pic was great. Loved it.

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But, in reality all humans have a reptilian layer to their brains which helps them breathe and digest without thinking. Therefore it is silly to single out autistics and compare them to reptiles, when actually we all have an important layer of reptile in us, and would die without it.


A very good point indeed. Wow!

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So I think the most accurate statement would be:

Cleopatra, the sacred, Egyptian Crocodile Queen, clutches the blessed serpent to her breast, and expires.


Brilliant!



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29 Jul 2009, 4:21 am

Marcia wrote:
I like it, although I feel obliged to point out that there's an apostrophe missing. :wink: It should read, "wits' end".

Sorry about the pedantry, but as it was being discussed in such detail ...


Wha...? Holy crap! :oops: And I'm usually so anal retentive about these sorts of things! (I don't know if anyone's noticed, but most of my posts read "edited 325 times"; and without exception, I've gone in and just added freakin' commas!)

*sigh*

So, I fixed it. And thanks! :wink:

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29 Jul 2009, 4:36 am

zen_mistress wrote:

So I think the most accurate statement would be:

Cleopatra, the sacred, Egyptian Crocodile Queen, clutches the blessed serpent to her breast, and expires.


Ah, the old "I'll see your puny cold snake and I'm gonna' raise you one huge man-eating crocodile" bid. Oh, hell, I'm just gonna' go with this:

"Cleopatra, power-hungry manipulator of over-sexed men in high places, clutches the innocent confused serpent (who was just minding his own business looking for yummy rodents under the divan, thank you very much) to her breast, and plays the death scene for all its worth."

Whaddya' say? :farao:


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29 Jul 2009, 4:51 am

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Quoting Feyhera:

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Cleopatra, in love and at her wits end, clutches the blessed serpent to her breast, and expires.


:lmao:

Well, now that you have beatified the serpent, it works well for all of us. :wtg: We're all winners. Yeah!

This just goes to show all of us, I think, the healing qualities of a good sense of humor. We tend to get way too serious at times, I know I do. And the shoe throwing pic was great. Loved it.


The kudos for changing the flow from hurt feelings to having fun, go to you, Cosmiccat. Your virtual shoe comment took the edge off and I was very relieved to have been given a chance to step out of my own head and receive help finding a solution that didn't offend. I guess I should've just done that to start with, but I had to work through it, really look at what my old signature really meant to me, spend the whole day mulling it over in my head (not a bad thing, btw) before I could see things from outside of my personal bubble.

So, thanks for taking the time and energy to help me out. If you had just poo-pooed me, I wouldn't have learned anything.

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29 Jul 2009, 4:55 am

Feyhera wrote:
Ah, the old "I'll see your puny cold snake and I'm gonna' raise you one huge man-eating crocodile" bid. Oh, hell, I'm just gonna' go with this:

"Cleopatra, power-hungry manipulator of over-sexed men in high places, clutches the innocent confused serpent (who was just minding his own business looking for yummy rodents under the divan, thank you very much) to her breast, and plays the death scene for all its worth."

Whaddya' say? :farao:


Very nice. The reason for the crocodile, apart from pointing out that we all have a little reptile in us, is that there have been crocodile gods and sacred crocodiles in ancient Egypt. No crocodile goddesses though. There is a hippo goddess, and a scorpion goddess.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/sobeka.htm


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29 Jul 2009, 8:58 am

Feyhera wrote:
"Cleopatra, power-hungry manipulator of over-sexed men in high places, clutches the innocent confused serpent (who was just minding his own business looking for yummy rodents under the divan, thank you very much) to her breast, and plays the death scene for all its worth."



Priceless. Though of course it might offend animal rights activists. :lol:



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29 Jul 2009, 2:59 pm

Feyhera wrote:

Ah, the old "I'll see your puny cold snake and I'm gonna' raise you one huge man-eating crocodile" bid. Oh, hell, I'm just gonna' go with this:

"Cleopatra, power-hungry manipulator of over-sexed men in high places, clutches the innocent confused serpent (who was just minding his own business looking for yummy rodents under the divan, thank you very much) to her breast, and plays the death scene for all its worth."

Whaddya' say? :farao:


Anyway I have been thinking overnight. You say it is honesty you want and I have to say this. I really dont understand why you insist on thinking of your husband as a reptile at all. You come on this board saying you want to learn to understand autism, and then you ignore posts we make telling you that we arent cold reptiles, and then somehow you come to the conclusion that it is ok to refer to your aspie husband as a reptile as long as he is a "blessed" reptile. I find it confusing, and strange, as I have met 70-80 aspies at groups in real life and not one of them struck me as reptilian. Most were a little cat-like if anything, but fundamentally very human.

I thought NTs were supposed to have a lot of empathy and sensitivity but it seems that you cannot see why some aspies would object when they see another aspie being called a reptile. I would have thought most NTs would understand this idea.

You seem to have a great personality and a lot to offer people, so I am having great difficulty uniting these two issues.

Anyway I am seeing this as a sign that I probably find this thread far too triggering and I guess I have devoted a lot of posts already to it. So I will sign off it and focus on other threads which I find less upsetting.


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29 Jul 2009, 4:34 pm

Is it that reptiles aren't "popular" animals? I'm asking because I've managed to seriously offend someone by comparing them to a pill bug, but it wasn't meant as an insult at all, and when I asked, I got that explanation.
Besides, if Feyhera thinks her husband has some behavior traits of a reptile (which I'm not sure about anyway since I'm not that interested in biology), why do you think she's referring to aspies in general? Or implying her husband wasn't human? That conclusion sort of confuses me.
Also, why is it apparently less offensive to compare aspies to cats than to reptiles? Where exactly is the difference?



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29 Jul 2009, 4:39 pm

Eller wrote:
Is it that reptiles aren't "popular" animals? I'm asking because I've managed to seriously offend someone by comparing them to a pill bug, but it wasn't meant as an insult at all, and when I asked, I got that explanation.
Besides, if Feyhera thinks her husband has some behavior traits of a reptile (which I'm not sure about anyway since I'm not that interested in biology), why do you think she's referring to aspies in general? Or implying her husband wasn't human? That conclusion sort of confuses me.
Also, why is it apparently less offensive to compare aspies to cats than to reptiles? Where exactly is the difference?


The specific reptile that killed Cleopatra was an asp. It's just a coincidence of names but still an uncomfortable comparison, given that it killed her.



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29 Jul 2009, 4:51 pm

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The specific reptile that killed Cleopatra was an asp. It's just a coincidence of names but still an uncomfortable comparison, given that it killed her.


I had to look that up in a dictionary - English is not my native language, so I didn't catch that one. ^^° Thanks for the explanation. Still, I wouldn't think too much of it.



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29 Jul 2009, 4:54 pm

To Cleopatra and Mark Anthony, Love was much more important too each other, than anything or anybody else, political correctness has no place in the heart.



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29 Jul 2009, 5:13 pm

Oops. Looks like we're going 1 step forward and 2 steps backwards.

In defense of Feyhera. I think her most recent post explains very clearly that she has given a lot of thought to her original signature and understands now why it might have been offensive, and has now done her best, very good naturedly I might add, to replace it with a signature that wouldn't piss anyone off. I don't see any way of completely resolving this without re-writing Shakespeare. Unless perhaps, we posthumously diagnose Marc Antony with Aspergers. Could we do that? :lol:



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30 Jul 2009, 3:09 am

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Oops. Looks like we're going 1 step forward and 2 steps backwards.

In defense of Feyhera. I think her most recent post explains very clearly that she has given a lot of thought to her original signature and understands now why it might have been offensive, and has now done her best, very good naturedly I might add, to replace it with a signature that wouldn't piss anyone off. I don't see any way of completely resolving this without re-writing Shakespeare. Unless perhaps, we posthumously diagnose Marc Antony with Aspergers. Could we do that? :lol:


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To Cleopatra and Mark Anthony, Love was much more important too each other, than anything or anybody else, political correctness has no place in the heart.


Thanks, guys. :oops:

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30 Jul 2009, 7:46 am

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("I cry myself to sleep some nights. He lays there, listening, unable to help, unable to soothe me. His silence and distance stab me like a knife and I find myself wishing he would just show some mercy and leave me forever, because, for whatever reason, I cannot seem to do it myself. Oh, the pain.")

Being empathic isn't always all it's cracked up to be. Sometimes hanging out here can be very depressing.


Sorry, Willmark. :oops:

I am just trying to understand. Does it accomplish nothing to turn to him and say, "Honey please hold me."