Self-diagnosis

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For some reason, I think Sonic is in his 30s.

[/quote]Don't miss the key point:

Self-diagnosis of autism doesn't mean you are autistic.

You don't know if you are autistic (or not) until medical diagnosis.

Hence you only have suspicions.[/quote]
That is true, although mis-diagnosis happens both with proper diagnosis and self-diagnosis (although not as often in the first case).

One thing I should have pointed out:

Autism is not always a "medical" diagnosis.

Psychologists who have PhDs, and are licensed to practice psychology, could also diagnose autism. They are not medical doctors.

The personal commentary RE myself is here for all to see.

Trying to establish my age etc is ridiculous, and a complete collapse of any form of logical thought.

If you're capable of addressing an issue, I'll address the issue.

Addressing the individual in the manner demonstrated in this thread is a simple ad hominem.


The same 'defences' are also arising i.e. 'sometimes the professionals get it wrong' (which was addressed earlier in the thread, and shown in terms of logic why it is a baseless fallacy).

The issue of age was also discussed.


Using the same lines of reasoning that have been shown to be fallacious speaks more of any individual than it does of me personally.


I'm not here to defend myself personally, nor do I need to defend myself personally.


The personal attack is ridiculous. I expect apologies.







Turning the subject into a personal commentary shows a complete failure, at a base level.

Jesus Christ!

I was just speculating as to your age. What's wrong with that?

Where's the "ad hominem" attack?

I'm 55, by the way. If you want to make fun of my advanced age, go right ahead!

Maybe we could go to a pub, and play billiards and darts. I'll have a cherry grenadine. You can have what you want--my treat.

I'm a straight man, so don't worry about the other aspect.

Personally I think age isn't a factor in these conversations, but age at diagnosis will definitely have an impact.

Those diagnosed later will likely have either had long-term support for other 'issues', for want of a better word, and then had an autism diagnosis. Or, alternatively, are likely to have self-diagnosed for a period of time before being diagnosed (if, indeed, they've gone down the formal route at all).

The perspective of those diagnosed in their childhood, or teenage years, doesn't often take this into account. Since they've had input from professionals for as long as they remember, or at the very least have had someone they know suggest/agree that something might be neurologically wrong, they're unlikely to understand that for many self-diagnosis HAS to be the first step.

Of course, where age also becomes a factor is in the fact that dealing with 'invisible' conditions, and even visible disabilities, is the much more done thing now. So, younger people now will be much more aware of these conditions. Certainly when I was at school, though not that long ago relatively, autism was unheard of.

LOL...we weren't speaking Sonic the Hedgehog---though he's cool.

We were speaking of the member known as Sonic for short. Sonic is a cool logistician.

C'mon Sonic buddy....lighten up, man!

Really, are you into logistics, Sonic? I'm interested in that.

He's probably into the discipline known as "logic."

It was a great part of the old scholastic curriculum.

It definitely has its place today---but it should be used in conjunction with other things.

Aaah....¤enlightenment¤.

For what it's worth, I've been in this position. I remember everybody yelling at me that I was being mean, and I was like "What! I'm just logical! Why are you so offended?!" Then I'd feel horribly hurt an misunderstood, and why did people take everything personally, anyway... Also, there is no demographic more likely to feel offended than teenage girls.