"Aspergers" - Should the name be changed?

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01 Jun 2009, 4:00 pm

I do wish to depart from calling it a syndrome. Perhaps saying that we fall under the "Asperger's Order/Class" is ideal.

I have been thinking about alternative pronunciations. The girl from American's Next Top Model pronounced it incorrectly: Oz-per-jer.

I was thinking "Oz-per-hee-un" sounds nice.


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01 Jun 2009, 4:24 pm

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I also jump and hate that when people refer me as autistic when I have asperger's. the reason being is that I live with people who have autism who are classic and have mental retardation. I also am in a program with Autistic people and I see the very big difference(except for rocking and sensory issues) between them and I.

Is there something to your reasoning other than "I am not like those gross incompetents and wish to disassociate myself from those I deem inferior to me"? Because I see no difference between what you describe as your reasons and blatant bigotry and snobbery. Correct me if I have it wrong and you are not merely saying "those people are not as good as me so I should not be linguistically associated with them".

I have no sympathy, but a large measure of contempt and revulsion for bigotry towards sub-categories within the Autism spectrum.



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01 Jun 2009, 4:58 pm

<sarcasm>
Let's call it the "Better Syndrome", because we simply are better.
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There's nothing wrong with the name, it's named after the guy who discovered it so who are we to change it?



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01 Jun 2009, 5:18 pm

Im not sure. I dont think it should be considered a disablility, its just being born with an alternitive view of the world.

Maybe we should be called alternitives? I dont know lol


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01 Jun 2009, 7:42 pm

Well, I can't say that being a purger-of-asses sounds any more appealing than being an ass-burger. :wink: Best to just leave it alone, I think... :roll:


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02 Jun 2009, 4:15 am

I think the name - "Aspergers" should be changed if only to stop the Ass-Burger jokes. I would like it to be called autism or autism spectrum disorder.



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02 Jun 2009, 5:44 am

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I also jump and hate that when people refer me as autistic when I have asperger's. the reason being is that I live with people who have autism who are classic and have mental retardation. I also am in a program with Autistic people and I see the very big difference(except for rocking and sensory issues) between them and I.

I hate it when people refer to me as having aspergers. the reason being that i live with people with aspergers who have mental retardation. People with aspergers have no empathy, are emotionless, robotic and lack souls. (Hmmm, had better write i am being sarcastic here!).

Seriously though, please go out and meet some more people with autism, you'll find they are less ret*d than you give them credit for.



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02 Jun 2009, 6:44 am

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I've no problem with the name 'Asperger's syndrome'. But I also have no problem with saying that I HAVE Asperger's syndrome (though I will just as easily say 'I AM autistic' [without wanting to get into the discussion of whether or not Asperger's may be called autism or not]), and calling it a disorder.

To me, it's not any different from saying 'I have so-and-so blood type', just because blood type would be 'certain and measurable'. I have brown eyes. It's as much genetic as my AS is. I have brown skin, I'm wrapped in it. Some would let that define them.

I know that some folks on the message board feel that their autism or AS defines their person, that it is who they are, whether it's because of their experiences in life or it's simply the way they view it. But I don't see autism as the be-all and end-all of my person. For me, it's just one aspect among countless aspects. And that's why I see the syndrome as something I have.

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02 Jun 2009, 6:48 am

Woodpeace wrote:
I think the name - "Aspergers" should be changed if only to stop the Ass-Burger jokes. I would like it to be called autism or autism spectrum disorder.

[sarcasm]Don't name any of your children with any name whatsoever that can ever be used as a pun to make fun of them. It might scar them for life.[/sarcasm]

Bullies will find a way to make fun of people with AS, regardless of the name. Whose issue is it, really?


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02 Jun 2009, 6:57 am

A_Spock_Darkly wrote:
I do wish to depart from calling it a syndrome. Perhaps saying that we fall under the "Asperger's Order/Class" is ideal.

Oh please, not self-segregation...

A syndrome at its core is simply a list of symptoms. Does anyone who believes they have AS believe that they don't have the symptoms? I think you're objecting to the connotation of the word. I prefer "condition," as in a condition of my life, but others think that sounds more "medical" than syndrome. You can't call it the "Asperger Personality" either, because our personalities spin in all directions. I do think that calling it a disorder is not always applicable, though sometimes, depending on the severity and how crippling it is to the person, it's probably the most accurate term.

I see myself as "on the spectrum." There are too many overlaps between what's formally defined as AS and other "conditions," especially in me, for me to make any sense of it other than just "spectrum."

Though I haven't made a habit of telling people, I would probably tell others I am "slightly autistic." That usually gets a good rise out of people. :P


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02 Jun 2009, 9:00 am

Post deleted. Sorry this is the only way I know how to delete posts. I also did that again so that I could start clean and not confuse people, so I created another post to be able to clearly explain my situation in a more clearer view. I have a habit of run-on posts, so i do not want to confuse people. sorry again.



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02 Jun 2009, 9:06 am

Sorry again deleting things that way I know how. Just stopping confusing run-on post that I always post. I know I repeat things. Sorry for being annoying,lol.



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02 Jun 2009, 9:19 am

Ought to come to terms what on earth it is first of all..

And beyond that it's kinda our responsibility to make it into something better.
Stop using the "Syndrome" part, just say AS or Aspergers
and don't mention the problems but rather just the differences
"I got AS.."
"What's AS?"
"Basicly I'm more straighforward and don't really say things just to be nice.."
It's a start..



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02 Jun 2009, 9:32 am

i also deleted this post as well, so that there is no confusion with the last post I wrote. I did not want to look like I am contradicting myself. I still do not know how to effectively delete post yet.



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02 Jun 2009, 9:49 am

Psygirl6 wrote:
I just wanted to let you guys know that I would never insult anyone and in fact after coming on here I found that people with Autism and/or Asperger's are real cool people. i wish you all were in my program, so that I could feel better about being there.

Well, you are judging the people in your program. Perhaps having a non-speaking forum brings out the "better" side of us? Were we in your group, you might not notice a difference.

I'm not trying to be harsh, and I know that you did not mean to offend. But you may not be giving people in your group enough credit.


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02 Jun 2009, 10:09 am

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A syndrome at its core is simply a list of symptoms.


A list of symptoms signifying a disease or disorder. I see Asperger's as a list of atypical traits. Given that there are nearly as many benefits of Asperger's as there are draw-backs, it is erroneous to call them "symptoms."


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