Dr. Phil program on extreme disorders..Aspergers & Toure

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15 Jan 2006, 3:21 pm

I say we put this egocentric Yankee twat into one of our own programs -- see how he likes it, the self-important f**k.

Be fun to watch.

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15 Jan 2006, 3:34 pm

Me as Dr. Phil: Now Jimmy what you need to do is straighten up and counscienously become more social and likable with others.

My comments: yeah that's easier said than done. :wink:

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15 Jan 2006, 4:23 pm

I know it should be watched before any negative commenent is made but in general all his shows are about the same. Meltdowns dont just happen somethings starts it and if handled right could be avoided most of the time To just happen to catch on on tape for the segment it had to have been egged on and no intervention tried just letting it happend is aweful. think of the kid and how exhuasting just socail contact is and after a good meltdown i sleep hours and feel sick after to provoke one and not try to get him out of there is irresponsable at best. Also worries me what people will think of me and my son as dangerous loose cannons. its just playing on it all for ratings. If everthing was as simple as presented in these shows we could wrap up all the worlds problems in just one season.

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15 Jan 2006, 5:43 pm

I don't usually watch Dr. Phil or any of those kinds of shows, but I'll watch it anyway just to see what he has to say. I guess that's all I got to say about it.

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15 Jan 2006, 7:23 pm

What lawsuit?

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15 Jan 2006, 8:33 pm

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I need to get a bunch of people to watch this and compare it to me just to prove how terrible Dr. Phil is. Looking at me, I'm the calmest person I know and show hardly any emotions at all. Sadly though, I was very violent and had yelling tantrums from 12-15. I was like that, but I doubt he plans on showing the evantual outcome through good parenting.

If anyone does watch it, would you mind posting a review here (with proper links of course) so that those of us who can't watch it are able to see a little more what it's about? Dr. Phil is a little odd... something's not right with him.

Yeah, I'm also probably one of the calmest people I know. Occasional meltdowns (I had one this morning

), but for the most part, I'm pretty emotionally neutral.

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15 Jan 2006, 9:39 pm

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Dr. Phil isn't even a real "doctor" - The only reason he got his break was becasue he helped Oprah beat a lawsuit against cattle farmers. He's nothing more than a sociologist masqurading as a know it all psychologist.

No matter what... I'll be DVR'ing this tuesday.

From what I have read, Dr. Phil did once practice as a psychologist and does hold a Ph.D. Holding a Ph.D does allow someone to use the title "Dr." In college, where professors are usually Ph.D.'s, they are addressed as "doctor," even though their degrees may be in fields such as Geography, Chemestry, English, etc.

You are right about how he got famous, by helping Oprah who put him on her show.

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15 Jan 2006, 9:45 pm

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I did too at times. I often had to struggle to keep it all in, it wasn't easy. With my parents, if I showed any signs of anger or frustration, even slightly raising my voice, they'd go ballistic about how I had to control my temper. That made it even more difficult living in my house, not being able to show any negative emotion at all. I would often retire to my room and hit and injure myself because it was the only way I knew to get bottled up feelings out.

My sister often threw tantrums, got mad, etc., and there was never any punishment for her. They allowed the same for my older siblings. They never made excuses for them, but often said it was OK for my sister to get upset because "She's a girl."

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15 Jan 2006, 9:55 pm

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Umm what channel is this show on?

It's synndicated. It depends on what market you live in.

In New York, it is on channel 2, the CBS affiliate, but that doesn't mean it would be in any other market.

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15 Jan 2006, 10:24 pm

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With my parents, if I showed any signs of anger or frustration, even slightly raising my voice, they'd go ballistic about how I had to control my temper. That made it even more difficult living in my house, not being able to show any negative emotion at all. I would often retire to my room and hit and injure myself because it was the only way I knew to get bottled up feelings out.

Yeah... I had the same thing. Though I stopped with the tantrums around 9 or so. Later on I tried to get into verbal debates, very carefully calm, but that wasn't really allowed either. Got told my tongue was the most vicious thing in the household. So I removed myself from the household except for enough superficial communication to keep them happy.

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16 Jan 2006, 8:01 am

Hmmm... strangely enough, I was rarely one for tantrums (at least no more than is usual). My method instead was pouting. And eventually sulking if the pouting didn't work.

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16 Jan 2006, 9:41 am

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I tried that method too and of course, it didn't work either. They told me the same thing about having a sharp tongue, which I didn't quite understand as again, my siblings got upset, yelled, screamed, and it seemed to be OK. If my sister wanted to win an arguement with my parents, all she had to do was have a fit, run to her room and slam the door and at that point, they gave up. I tried that once and just got more trouble. I just couldn't win in our household.

Their problem with me I think now was I always refused to learn my place, at the bottom.

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16 Jan 2006, 11:24 am

My AS 12 year old used to be very compliant but when he began to go through puberty he became somewhat obstinant, mostly complaining loudly over and over and over and over. He obsesses on anything negetive. I've really run out of creative ways to help him with disappointment. He wants to have more freedoms than he's ready for or old enough to have and then gets angry when we tell him no. Bringing up alternatives does not help because he cannot switch gears. I feel bad for him but his loud, annoying, negative monologues drive the rest of us nuts. He is not physically aggresive or violent but he says things over and over like, "Rip the paper", or "Break the barrier". I've tried to take advantage of this talk and told him that he's right. Obstacles are like barriers. We should break the barriers to the obstacles of our success, but if we break the barriers of protection then there will be consequences. I am worried about it because as he gets older and the testosterone kicks in, I'm afraid he may start acting out. I think that sports would help but he has significant motor skill deficits and would be a very resented team member. He likes to ride his bike but wants to go too far. Encouragement doesn't work. Redirection doesn't work. Substitution doesn't work. I'm worried that he'll direct his anger inward, like I did. Any suggestions? Please help me out. I need advice from males that were angry and explosive.

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16 Jan 2006, 2:16 pm

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That to me sounds normal, as children get older, they want to be more independent, they want to spread their wings a little. It all depends on what he wants/doesn't want to do as to how it is handled. It's best to pick your battles, some things are probably a definite now while others, you may not be comfortable with but may not possess any inherent danger so it might not be a big deal. In other words, take these things on a case by case basis.

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16 Jan 2006, 4:34 pm

i tried posting on the dr.phil message board, but it gave me an automatic message saying that i had to wait a while for it to get "approved". just more proof that the US is totally crazy when it comes to censorship. and that they dont want to have angry aspies on the www.drphil.com website.
i really think that oprah could portray us better. if an aspie came on the show.. not HFA, at least someone with some WP views. that would be great.

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16 Jan 2006, 5:00 pm

berta wrote:

I'm sure his message boards are moderated, not only to keep off offensive content, but to keep out those who don't agree with Dr. Phil. I don't know quite what you mean when you say "the us is totally crazy when it comes to censorship" in reference to this. Although I agree with your statement, I'm necessarily sure it applies in this case.

Dr. Phil is in this business to make money and if someone were to post a criticism of him, valid or otherwise, it's simply not in his best interest. Reading criticisms, whether they are valid or not, will make people think and some may start doubting him, which means lower ratings for his show, lower sales of his books, etc., and less money in his pockets. He will eventually be seen for what he is and hopefully, fade off into the sunset.

As for better venues for us, I think Montel Williams might be better. His show does frequently offer different points of view and does sometimes try to be more balanced than Oprah, Dr. Phil, etc. He's the only one of the talk show hosts I actually like because he tries to do relevant topics and for the most part, doesn't over sensationalize things.

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