2 other characteristics of autism that strike out at me.

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13 Jun 2009, 11:11 am

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My son has undiagnosed "As"...he is one of those kids who do well in school and cause no trouble, so they found no need to diagnose him, I guess...
A teacher of my son told me he could have it and that is when I first learned about Asperger's.
And learning I did, really obsessively :O)

It's really great to see teachers suspecting AS but not recommendation evaluation. I likely was one of those kids who escaped a diagnosis. Of course, this was pre-ADD / Aspergers era.

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13 Jun 2009, 11:52 am

Both my father and his father were engineers.

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13 Jun 2009, 12:10 pm

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Biene wrote:

It's really great to see teachers suspecting AS but not recommendation evaluation. I likely was one of those kids who escaped a diagnosis. Of course, this was pre-ADD / Aspergers era.

I am pretty sure it was suggested by the councelors that my parents have me evaluated for something...but it was pre-ADD/AS era too...But they sure went to a lot of meetings to discuss my difficulties.
They really were not sure what to make of me because I was obviously not ret*d.
My elementary school principal pegged me as simply having emotional problems.

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13 Jun 2009, 12:13 pm

[quote]It's really great to see teachers suspecting AS but not recommendation evaluation. I likely was one of those kids who escaped a diagnosis. Of course, this was pre-ADD / Aspergers era.

Actually, the teacher told me that they suspect AS or Tourettes after I told her he is going to see the school councillor because of his OCD...
My husband and I decided to see the paediatrician .
I told the Paediatrician the comment the teacher made about the Asperger's or Tourettes and that I would get a note from her.

All of a sudden they had that big meeting in the principles office (according to secretary).
apparently the teacher was not supposed to tell me these suspicions they had.

So I got this letter that the school is not qualified to make such a diagnosis, he shows symptoms that could point to AS or many other childhood blablablabla......(something like this)

So we had this 1 year Assessment we went through.
Put our private life out in the open for every shrink, mental health and school board person to see, only at the end to have on paper of the Diagnosis: OCD , "query" Tourettes" (whatever they mean by "query")....

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13 Jun 2009, 12:24 pm

The dad's an electrical engineer,
was 42 when I was born, shows some autistic spectrummy traits.

I haven't been diagnosed as of yet though.

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13 Jun 2009, 12:37 pm

ProfessorX wrote:

th carpentry and was both fluent in the Armenian and Russian language.Mind you though, I don't base my inheritance of Asperger syndrome on one's occupational skills or such but, rather some traits do filter down however, in my case I have none of those skills whatsoever.Anyways, I'm always been fascinated by what people with Aspergers can do though including myself..

My mother who I suspect of having had autism (she passed away)had a brother who was also a carpenter. He made her as a young boy one of those fancy boxes that fold out on either side like a Harmonika and folds up into one box ( like those russion dolls kind of nestboxes). It was for seamstress stuff.
I loved to open that thing and snoop around in it and she hated it when I touched it cause she loved that thing and I would just mess everything up in it.

He immigrated to Canada (Winnipec) with his also German wife and made a living out of his carpentry.

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13 Jun 2009, 12:50 pm

OH my god if I know my kids will get as then no marriage for me I am training to be a teacher and hopefully to be a professor in english

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13 Jun 2009, 2:21 pm

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OH my god if I know my kids will get as then no marriage for me I am training to be a teacher and hopefully to be a professor in english

stevee, please don't take my thread as a reason not to have children or marry...please, please, please

obvious the risk is higher for all of us to have as kids..it is complicated....but just to say NO

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13 Jun 2009, 2:24 pm

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I have read Kanner’s original paper and he included observations about the parent’s attributes. He stated that it was tempting to view the condition as caused by parental treatment of offspring, but then stated explicitly that this hypothesis could not be true because of the early development of symptoms.

In other words Kanner anticipated and refuted the hypothesis of parental behaviour causing the condition, at the outset.

I would not interpret Kanner as having not been struck by characteristics of the fathers. Contrary to a parental behaviour rather than hereditary model, Kanner also included information about grandparents who had no contact with the children.

I cannot see why he would conclude the mothers were responsible, since in his paper he reported very clearly that one child improved when the father exited the home leaving the daughter in her mother’s care.

I guess I was being pretty unfair to Kanner. What probably actually happened (and then got mixed up in my head) is that another researcher used Kanner's observations about maternal age, cited Kanner, and then jumped to his own terrible conclusion. Sorry, Kanner. :oops:

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13 Jun 2009, 2:59 pm

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OH my god if I know my kids will get as then no marriage for me I am training to be a teacher and hopefully to be a professor in english

If one Twin sibling has AS the chances for the other one to have it are 50% I believe...
If one Twin is "bipolar", the other twin always is "bipolar"...interesting, hah?!

My daughter does not want to have children either because of her "undiagnosed" brother.

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13 Jun 2009, 3:48 pm

Janissy wrote:

I cannot actually remember what Kanner said about parental age, just that he ruled out parental behavior as a cause in his initial paper. .

Kanner did appear to be favoring a hereditary model as he was interested in and included comments about grandparents who had not had contact with the Autistic children his initial paper was concerned with.

Whether or not you personally mixed up Kanner with “parental behavior” models, is not clear because there is so much misinformation about, you might have read somewhere that this was the case. I guess Kanner will not mind too much as I believe he’s been dead a while.

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