HEALTH CARE REFORM and auts/asps

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In these case, if you want to have acess to services not covered by the "single payer sustem", you buy a private health insurance that these aditional services - you will never be worse than before (if the services that you need are covered by the state plan, you will be better; if they are not covered, you will be in the same situation than today)

I am European, but, by what I have read, the american health care reform are based in two points:

- health insurance companies will be forced to sell insurance to everybody and at the same price, independently of pre-existing conditions

- eveybody will be forced to buy health insurance

At the first look, seems to me that the result of this is that "healthy" people will subsidize the treatments of "sick" or disabled people.

In the state where I live, there are health plans available to me, but they cost around $1200 per month. The part I'm worried about is the fact that I and everyone else will be forced into buying plans too expensive for our earnings. Without a drivers license, I can afford $0 in insurance expenses. I won't have a drivers license due to the fact that medical conditions I listed on a state insurance application were reported to the DMV. Since the government will effective bar me from making any earning, I will be punished for not being able to afford their damned insurance. A reset in government would do a tremendous amount in reducing the cost of healthcare.

For those embracing the CP line (he'd never endorse such tactics because his own sister would be affected), the ELITE always get special consideration and treatment.

Sen. Kennedy got pretty much experimental treatment for his caner paid for by taxpayers. Only members of Congress and presidents get this level of medical care. It's not there for you and I.

So, yes, they would ultimately gas the "useless eaters" but those in prominent positions would be promised that their loved ones would be spared. Perks of having power.

The only "national health care" I would endorse is one that gives me the same level of access and quality care as Mr. Kennedy got. They'll never agree to that.

I agree. Congress Critters and the other bureaucrats will get their elite plan and what will be available to the population is sh**. It may work differently in Europe, Canada, or other countries with single payer systems, but that is not how it will work here. In America, government benefits are divided into classes. There is the "public servant" class, the "rich" class, the "disabled" class, and the working class.

The "public servant" class gets the best of everything with special laws giving them extra protections in just about everything. There are two sub classes in this class. They get the best treatment in hospitals, the best pension plans, and the best health insurance all off the backs of the taxpayers. Examples of people falling in this class are congress members, the president, judges, and other "high" level bureaucrats. The lower portion of this class consists of postal workers, police officers, military enlistees, and some other federal, state, and local government employees.

There is the rich class which pays the most taxes in dollars yet pays the least as a percentage in earnings. This class while taxed at a a higher rate, gets special deductions and tax breaks that reduces their tax rate below that of the working class. They have either the best or second best when it comes to health care depending on the choice of insurance plans or the amount of money they make.

The disabled class is supported by the taxpayers. Most of their needs are met by the taxpayers. The quality of medical care they receive is about the same as socialized medical systems. This class has to wait for many treatment and manyother treatments are simply not covered. The government uses a set of arbitrary policies, rules, regulations, etc. to determine who belongs to this class. Most of the people in this class live under tight governmental constraints. The government tells them how much they can earn, whether and how much they can work, etc. Violations of these constraints can lead to members of this class being demoted to the working class.

The "working" class are at the bottom of the ladder. The ones that can get or afford health insurance are the lucky ones. If members of this class gets sick or injured where they cannot work, they are the ones that lose their homes, go without medical care, etc. unless they receive kindness or charity from strangers or family. Members of this class are the ones who spend the highest portion of their earnings supporting the other classes. Members of this class have effectively few rights in the system. If they request assistance from the government, they are likely to have something taken from them. This class bears the heaviest burden from government mandates and policies. It is also the class that is most affected by so called "free trade" policies. It is this class that will be hurt the most and benefit the least from government mandated insurance.

Sounds good. Take a number and wait your turn.

ruveyn