Why is it that I always get hated on other forums?

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19 Aug 2009, 6:23 am

Very true. People feel threatened.


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19 Aug 2009, 6:23 am

For the most part, I've not had this problem, but I think that's because the Internet lets me look at what I'm posting and think about it before sending it.

If you type as you talk (once it's out, you can't bring it back), perhaps you aren't reviewing your post long enough to consider if it might come across wrong to others. I know sometimes my posts get a bad response, but they aren't often because I take time to look over them before sending.



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19 Aug 2009, 6:48 am

zer0netgain wrote:
For the most part, I've not had this problem, but I think that's because the Internet lets me look at what I'm posting and think about it before sending it.

If you type as you talk (once it's out, you can't bring it back), perhaps you aren't reviewing your post long enough to consider if it might come across wrong to others. I know sometimes my posts get a bad response, but they aren't often because I take time to look over them before sending.


Thats pretty much what I do.There is another site besides WP where I post (Free Dominion).I have been on that site for a few years.They have been pretty good.I still post there...I have made a few mistakes and had misunderstandings, but the mods and owners are pretty good and understanding.


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19 Aug 2009, 7:44 am

fiddlerpianist wrote:
I always ask myself, "If I correct them, will it be constructive?" That is to say, will it further their understanding of what I am saying? If not, I keep my mouth shut, despite the often overwhelming urge to correct them.

Case in point, a conversation that went wrong:

Wife: "There is a bug in the bathtub, can you extract it for me?"
Me (takes a look at it): "That's not a bug; it's a spider."
Wife: :evil:

It would have gone better like so:
Wife: "There is a bug in the bathtub, can you extract it for me?"
Me (takes a look at it and thinks to self): "That's not a bug; it's a spider, but it's obviously bothering her."
Me (aloud): "Sure, I will be happy to take it outside."

"Bug" is not particularly technical terminology. If she said that there wan an insect in the tub, and it was a spider, she would have been wrong. Can't a spider be referred to as a bug, though? I thought bug just means "little crawly thing with an exoskeleton." I correct people on differences between insects and spiders, but I wouldn't consider it totally incorrect to refer to a spider as a bug.
(Kris considers if "fun" when I babble about semantic details like that.. I'm soooo lucky!)



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19 Aug 2009, 8:46 am

I've seen many people get upset over things being spoken about bluntly. My boyfriend tells me I come across as very cold when we are messaging back and forth on the comp actually. So it could just be misinterpretation all around, and the emotions start coming out when things are taken the wrong way, or when you say something they don't want to hear.

He can never tell if I'm joking, being sarcastic, happy, indifferent, or anything. All he sees is the words and it can cause a big mess of problems because there isn't anything else to go by.

We have MANY arguments through chat that wound up resolved over the phone, because I can explain things that way after it has calmed down.

On most forums though, that option isn't available, and many are not willing to listen once they've got the idea in their heads that you are being a "forum troll" and whatnot. Once they get that idea (I've noticed it even on here at times with past members, which is why I left for a while-there was a bit of arguing quite often for a while there), that's it. There is no changing it.

...and when it comes to opinions, it's always a debate that can go on forever. While we can usually debate and be okay by the end of it, they get heated and emotional, and there's no way to argue that. We cannot say a word about how they are feeling, and if one tries, it makes it worse often....eventually turning into a bunch of people being really mad at the person dubbed the "troll" regardless of their initial intentions.

Am I talking in circles or making sense... my thoughts are too scattered atm on this subject to really tell for some reason.



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19 Aug 2009, 11:02 am

Maggiedoll wrote:
fiddlerpianist wrote:
I always ask myself, "If I correct them, will it be constructive?" That is to say, will it further their understanding of what I am saying? If not, I keep my mouth shut, despite the often overwhelming urge to correct them.

Case in point, a conversation that went wrong:

Wife: "There is a bug in the bathtub, can you extract it for me?"
Me (takes a look at it): "That's not a bug; it's a spider."
Wife: :evil:

It would have gone better like so:
Wife: "There is a bug in the bathtub, can you extract it for me?"
Me (takes a look at it and thinks to self): "That's not a bug; it's a spider, but it's obviously bothering her."
Me (aloud): "Sure, I will be happy to take it outside."

"Bug" is not particularly technical terminology. If she said that there wan an insect in the tub, and it was a spider, she would have been wrong. Can't a spider be referred to as a bug, though? I thought bug just means "little crawly thing with an exoskeleton." I correct people on differences between insects and spiders, but I wouldn't consider it totally incorrect to refer to a spider as a bug.
(Kris considers if "fun" when I babble about semantic details like that.. I'm soooo lucky!)

Looking back at it, she probably said "insect" because you're right; I wouldn't have corrected her. (I don't seem to have the "filmographic memory" that many with AS say they have.)

Interestingly, it actually wasn't my incessant desire to correct details; it was my attempt to use logic to calm her down. See, she really doesn't like insects, but she doesn't mind spiders quite as much. So I thought by informing her that it was actually a spider and not an insect that she would be less alarmed. Unfortunately, it didn't really matter at all.


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19 Aug 2009, 9:31 pm

fiddlerpianist wrote:
Looking back at it, she probably said "insect" because you're right; I wouldn't have corrected her. (I don't seem to have the "filmographic memory" that many with AS say they have.)

Interestingly, it actually wasn't my incessant desire to correct details; it was my attempt to use logic to calm her down. See, she really doesn't like insects, but she doesn't mind spiders quite as much. So I thought by informing her that it was actually a spider and not an insect that she would be less alarmed. Unfortunately, it didn't really matter at all.

Hmm.. any idea WHY it didn't work? Seems logical enough..



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19 Aug 2009, 10:46 pm

Maggiedoll wrote:
fiddlerpianist wrote:
Looking back at it, she probably said "insect" because you're right; I wouldn't have corrected her. (I don't seem to have the "filmographic memory" that many with AS say they have.)

Interestingly, it actually wasn't my incessant desire to correct details; it was my attempt to use logic to calm her down. See, she really doesn't like insects, but she doesn't mind spiders quite as much. So I thought by informing her that it was actually a spider and not an insect that she would be less alarmed. Unfortunately, it didn't really matter at all.

Hmm.. any idea WHY it didn't work? Seems logical enough..

Yes. She just wanted me to execute the procedure for removing it. She wasn't looking for validation or an explanation as to why she had such an intense desire, and she wasn't looking for a rationalization to try and calm her down. She wanted it out!

Funny that my perspective makes sense to you, too. I mean, I can see her point about it, too, but it was just not my first thought. I guess I'm more Aspie-ish that I realize sometimes...


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