Empathy versus systemizing. In which one are you more AS?

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29 Oct 2009, 5:41 am

Systematizing: 62
Empathy: 15
Autism Quotient: 36 (the closest to NT I've ever scored)
Mind in the Eye: 24 (see, even aspies can learn some things)



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29 Oct 2009, 9:39 am

Systemizing Quotient
Your score: 24
0 - 19 = low
20 - 39 = average (most women score about 24 and most men score about 30)
40 - 50 = above average (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score in this range)
51 - 80 is very high (three times as many people with Asperger Syndrome score in this range, compared to typical men, and almost no women score in this range)
80 is maximum

Empathy Quotient
Your score: 22
0 - 32 = low (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 20)
33 - 52 = average (most women score about 47 and most men score about 42)
53 - 63 is above average
64 - 80 is very high
80 is maximum

Autism Spectrum Quotient
Your score: 33
0 - 10 = low
11 - 22 = average (most women score about 15 and most men score about 17)
23 - 31 = above average
32 - 50 is very high (most people with Asperger Syndrome or high-functioning autism score about 35)
50 is maximum

Mind in the Eyes
Your score: 17
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.


Most the eyes looked the same to me. Especially the ones looking to the side. I think in person and using the whole face rather than just eyes would be a bit more easy to decode, imo. I guessed at almost every single one of them.


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29 Oct 2009, 10:13 am

EQ: 39
SQ: 12... Ok i have no idea how i only got 12, should be a little bit more than that
AQ: 20
Eyes: 26

A psychologist told me he uses the eyes test to help rule out AS in patients. Looking at all the high scores here, that sounds like BS! 8O



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29 Oct 2009, 10:54 am

JohnnyD017 wrote:

A psychologist told me he uses the eyes test to help rule out AS in patients. Looking at all the high scores here, that sounds like BS! 8O


Maybe with kids, or if one had to come up with an answer on their own without multiple choice that might make sense. I wouldn't have been able to look at any of those faces in a real situation and have any clue how to react to those people, but i do have a vague idea of what some different expressions could mean just from watching lots of tv and stuff... Learning which expression usually goes with what situations and all. So with the multiple choice answers making it easy to rule things out, it's not anything like real life. My own expressions are very limited, also.. So i can't see how just because i scored in the normal range on that, that someone could say that i couldn't have AS, when i obviously can't pick it up well enough to apply it in life. I'm just good at multiple choice questions.



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29 Oct 2009, 11:00 am

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Maybe with kids, or if one had to come up with an answer on their own without multiple choice that might make sense. I wouldn't have been able to look at any of those faces in a real situation and have any clue how to react to those people, but i do have a vague idea of what some different expressions could mean just from watching lots of tv and stuff... Learning which expression usually goes with what situations and all. So with the multiple choice answers making it easy to rule things out, it's not anything like real life. My own expressions are very limited, also.. So i can't see how just because i scored in the normal range on that, that someone could say that i couldn't have AS, when i obviously can't pick it up well enough to apply it in life. I'm just good at multiple choice questions.


He did mention a study that had been done with adults with AS and said they scored pretty badly. Not sure how many of them there were or the severity of their condition. I'll ask about it if I talk to him again. you're right, though, it probably is just learning them from movies and tv



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29 Oct 2009, 11:21 am

JohnnyD017 wrote:
He did mention a study that had been done with adults with AS and said they scored pretty badly. Not sure how many of them there were or the severity of their condition. I'll ask about it if I talk to him again. you're right, though, it probably is just learning them from movies and tv


Please do ask him, if you don't mind. Also, maybe point out to him that many adults with high-functioning ASD are also extremely bright, and because of this, have been able to learn/adopt many "normal" behaviors over the years.

Tests like the "mind in the eye" are rather easy for me, for example: one of my "fun" ASD quirks is a love of/obsession with patterns; the pairs of eyes have been taken out of context; I've been given multiple-choice options; and I'm not dealing with a real-life, stress-filled situation (in which I'd probably fail miserably at this task) requiring me to maintain eye contact whilst simultaneously trying to decipher someone else's mood/emotion.


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29 Oct 2009, 11:13 pm

I havent spoken to him yet,

However, i did find a study done by Baren-Cohen himself which some of you may be interested in:

http://www.autismresearchcentre.com/doc ... lteyes.pdf

Funny enough that 2nd example is one i got wrong. I thought her left eye partly closed showed irritation. :oops:

You can also see that theres a low number of test subjects with AS and HFA. Anyways I think the eyes test should only be taken seriously if there's a very low score.



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29 Oct 2009, 11:21 pm

I got pretty average to high Aspie-ish scores in all categories...except for Empathy, which I got a 60 in. That's...weird.


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30 Oct 2009, 3:50 am

Systemizing: 30 (I think this may have been higher if some of the questions had been about different subjects)
Empathy: 14
AQ: 42
Mind Eyes: 24 (could sort of work out some of these and guessed others)


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