Psychiatrist today asked if I believe in aliens.

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23 Dec 2009, 12:30 pm

It looks like the question about aliens is a mind game designed to trip people up! NTs generally know the "right" answer through social intuition, but aspies and NDs* (neurodiverse - see below) fall right into the trap, unless they memorize the proper answer. I say fight back! Use the psychiatrists' archenemy: Scientology. Not that I support it, but we can still use its teachings for our benefit. If a psychiatrist asked me if I believe in aliens, I'd start talking about Xenu, the Space Opera, thetans, and other similar concepts. In the US, where Scientology is recognized as a religion, a psych worker can't take action against a patient simply for his religious beliefs. At the same time, it's well-known that Scientology denounces all mental health studies, other than its own Dianetics. So, the shrink who asked that question might feel a little intimidated and back off.

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23 Dec 2009, 1:39 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
It looks like the question about aliens is a mind game designed to trip people up! NTs generally know the "right" answer through social intuition, but aspies and NDs* (neurodiverse - see below) fall right into the trap, unless they memorize the proper answer. I say fight back! Use the psychiatrists' archenemy: Scientology. Not that I support it, but we can still use its teachings for our benefit. If a psychiatrist asked me if I believe in aliens, I'd start talking about Xenu, the Space Opera, thetans, and other similar concepts. In the US, where Scientology is recognized as a religion, a psych worker can't take action against a patient simply for his religious beliefs. At the same time, it's well-known that Scientology denounces all mental health studies, other than its own Dianetics. So, the shrink who asked that question might feel a little intimidated and back off.

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* Neurodiverse - people with conditions outside the autistic spectrum, such as bipolar, borderline, OCD, schizophrenia, paranoia, etc.

If the "right" answer is no Then it just another failure of the "Normal" mind to grasp reality logically and scientifically.



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23 Dec 2009, 1:44 pm

Eggman wrote:
Given the scope of the universe, I would consider it delusional if someobne didnt


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It seems human nature to be scared of anything that's different, so people who believe in aliens tend to be casted out, but if aliens don't exist I'll eat my t-shirt.



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23 Dec 2009, 2:13 pm

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When people ask me if I believe in aliens I explain to them that the mathematical odds seem to support the probability of life being plentiful in the universe.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlikCebQSlY[/youtube]


given the scope, even if almost zero, it still parobaly has lots of life filled worls


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23 Dec 2009, 2:14 pm

MartyMoose wrote:
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I'd think that question would be to see if you're having delusions.

Shouldn't the psychologist ask if they beleive in God as well
:lol: :lol: :lol:


or the opposite


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23 Dec 2009, 4:13 pm

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I went on a trip to the Galapagos with my parents and saw the tortoises there. :heart:


Got home, the creepy guy psychiatrist asks me how they mate.


Relevance to /anything/, please? I told him about the tortoises, sea lions, volcanoes... and /that/ is what he asks me about? Creepy, creepy man...

I fail to see how that is creepy.

But cool you got to go there!


Well. In a normal setting, a 50-some year old man asking questions like that to a 15-year-old girl would seem out of place and creepy, given that nothing of what I talked about had to do with mating, and the tortoises were just a small part of the whole experience. Just because he has a PhD does not exempt him from seeming creepy for that focus.


I find it very creepy that he asked about mating habits of tortoises, especially as you didn't say anything to lead to it. It was inapproprate of him.



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23 Dec 2009, 4:42 pm

MartyMoose wrote:
Dragonfly_Dreams wrote:
I'd think that question would be to see if you're having delusions.

Shouldn't the psychologist ask if they beleive in God as well
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I thought about Drake's equation as well! Might be a good thing to teach the psychiatrist about that! About God Richard Dawkins says that religious belief is also a form of delusion...



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23 Dec 2009, 5:47 pm

I think that RampionRampage is right to think that the man was wrong to ask a question about the reproduction of the animals in that context. If the two of you had been in a biology lesson dealing with tortoises or some other reptiles then it would have been OK.

But for a person to ask you about the mating of tortoises out of the blue is just as abnormal as me offering to show you a collection of photos of

Power line poles
Pyrex glassware
Electronic parts
Cans of dog food

The biggest problem with the reproduction of the tortoises is that it is rather close to a lewd subject, I would not discuss the subject with a 15 year girl (or a twenty something woman) as it could be misunderstood in a very bad way.

Back to aliens, I would answer in the following way "I am unable to rule out the existance of aliens, but to date I have seen no evidence to suggest that they exist".

My reasoning is that unless a perfect search is made of the whole universe it is impossible to prove that they do not exist, but I have seen no evidence to suggest that Aliens exist.


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23 Dec 2009, 6:43 pm

RampionRampage wrote:
buryuntime wrote:
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I went on a trip to the Galapagos with my parents and saw the tortoises there. :heart:


Got home, the creepy guy psychiatrist asks me how they mate.


Relevance to /anything/, please? I told him about the tortoises, sea lions, volcanoes... and /that/ is what he asks me about? Creepy, creepy man...

I fail to see how that is creepy.

But cool you got to go there!


Well. In a normal setting, a 50-some year old man asking questions like that to a 15-year-old girl would seem out of place and creepy, given that nothing of what I talked about had to do with mating, and the tortoises were just a small part of the whole experience. Just because he has a PhD does not exempt him from seeming creepy for that focus.


To paraphrase Freud, sometimes a mating tortoise is just a mating tortoise. Though it is more suggestive than a cigar, to me. :roll:



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23 Dec 2009, 6:46 pm

Of course aliens exist.....and vampires and werewolves......

My Therapist asked me the same thing in a way........one of my hobbies is vampire lore and mythology......the anthropology, if you will.

My Therapist asked me if I believed that vampires exist and I said " I cannot prove or disprove the existence of God, nor can I prove or disprove the existence of vampires".

She just laughed and said "Good call".

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23 Dec 2009, 7:33 pm

MartyMoose wrote:
When people ask me if I believe in aliens I explain to them that the mathematical odds seem to support the probability of life being plentiful in the universe.


That is a cool video. Had forgotten about that.

Like the character in Contact said, it would be a terrible waste of space for there not to be.

Take the equations' possibility of life if civilizations make it in our galaxy then multiply that by the countless number of galaxies and the universe is probably crawling with life like an anthill.

It would be quite a waste of space if it wasn't.


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24 Dec 2009, 7:06 am

In Cosmos Carl Sagan said there were 300 billion galaxies in the universe. Don't know if this number is accurate. He said "there are more galaxies in the Universe than grains of sand on a beach"...



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24 Dec 2009, 9:59 am

I always feel strange for this thing about alien = delusion.
Actually I belive like the majority of phisicist in alien life. Simply the odds told us that the chance is pretty high.
I don't know about alien on earth.
Actually beliving in God is rationally worst than beliving in aliens.


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24 Dec 2009, 1:23 pm

I sort of believe in aliens, but I think they would have more important things to do than to probe your anus.


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25 Dec 2009, 12:29 am

I am not sure why this question would have been asked. If it is to check for delusional behavior, then it is of my opinion that it is not a good question. For someone to say they believe in aliens might seem like something from a tabloid, but it is of the opinion of a great many astronomers that alien life should exist elsewhere in the universe. Given the size of the universe with the near countless amount of stars within distant galaxies there seems like life would have to exist elsewhere besides our earth. To me, believing in alien life is more a matter of a scientific analysis rather than something like believing in ghosts or witches.

If I had to bet on life existing somewhere else in the universe, I would bet in favor of it. I do believe there must be life somewhere besides earth.

If I had to bet on the Roswell incident, I would be more inclined to believe and bet that it involved a military operation and not alien life.


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25 Dec 2009, 1:08 pm

Others have pointed out one claim that has decent scientific backing that aliens exist, I point out a simpler one. Akham's Razor. Figure there are two possibilities - there is life out there somewhere, or, life is unique to our tiny little planet, and was just a coincidence. It simply makes more sense that at least somewhere else in the galaxy, let alone the universe, life developed.