How many mods and admins does this board need?

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27 Feb 2006, 9:26 am

Kiss_my_AS wrote:
Thanks for your input Alex. But I do want to ask a question about 'moderators who feel powerless to help everyone'. Going by your last sentence, does this mean that they feel that they're not able to deal with longlasting problems coming from some individuals (anymore)? And, whether the problems come from individuals or are just a great amount of little problems, is their feeling triggered by an issue that is impossible to solve by the (current or improved) TOS?


I think they have the problem of never agreeing on anything. This is probably due to the diverse group represented. We need to find a way to allow the moderators to be fair but still act swiftly.


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27 Feb 2006, 9:27 am

Kiss_my_AS wrote:
......which I suppose you are doing right now or at least very soon, right? Alex already stated to be open to it, and, if the situation was based on this thread only, we seem to be very close to an agreement regarding the new policy concerning moderators and moderating.


We're talking about it, but it really comes down to Alex. Several people have proposed new systems, but we're waiting for him to decide which one to go with.



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27 Feb 2006, 9:29 am

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Hale, someone already suggested to Alex that certain mods are formally assigned to certain forums. Even in a casual sense, some mods frequented more forums more often (and thus moderated) than others did. My special one was the PPR forum and I spent most of my time in there (not that I bother replying to everything, though...). :)


Indeed, I spend most of my time in the Random Fun forum, I kinda considered it to be "my" forum (in terms of watching over things).



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27 Feb 2006, 3:07 pm

It's a matter of quantity and quality. It doesn't matter how good the moderators are if they're not around to moderate. And if a single forum usually depends on 1 to 2 moderators to moderate it and all of a sudden both moderators decide not to show up and no one knows where they are-- or worse yet, no one knows that they haven't shown up-- then a forum could potentially go without moderation. And some issues cannot wait days on end. And even if other mods cover for that time, that requires 1) good communication between the mods to know exactly who will be there and who won't, and 2) enough mods to cover so that other subforums don't go shorthanded.

That is my main point. Quantity and quality.


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27 Feb 2006, 4:51 pm

I don't know.

Most of the boards I visit have one or two "head" mods per forum and head team (three or four) for the busy forums. BUT the other mods can, and do, have moding rights in forums other than their own. They (the head or team) pretty much have final rights in "their" forum.

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27 Feb 2006, 5:52 pm

Try keeping your noses out of people's business,it worked at other forums I post at. The first place was moderated to death and somebody got sick of it and started a new forum and during the 6 months that it has been active,almost zero action has been taken.

One picture was touched up,it wasn't within the guidelines and one big cry baby who used to go crying to the moderators all the time at the first forum thought he would drop in and act like a total fool,his bad posts where removed,he wasn't banned and is still free to post as if he wants to do it like some what of an adult.

It's a truck driver forum. The endless squabbling about moderators is over. It people get into knockdown endless arguments the post is sent to the battle forum where only registered posters can read it. They can go out back and kick each others butts to their hearts content and if people want to watch they can go watch. At the first place the moderators tried in vane to keep things under control and it never worked,the same people would be at each other all the time. At the new forum after a few good brawls out back,the people got bored with slapping each other around and stopped fighting once they found out nobody was going to come to their rescue.

It's basic kiddie stuff,people will keep annoying people as long as they know mommy or the teacher will keep them from getting their butts kicked. Once these people find out they don't have a mod to hide behind,they will stop annoying people,let them fight it out and all the garbage will end.

If you mod. people stop protecting the trouble makers,they will catch the beating they deserve and the rest of the people will stop complaining about moderators,the trouble makers will either go away or not start trouble in the first place once they know nobody is going to pull the dogs off them.

just send the posts to the {{ ring }} or whatever you want to call your battle forum and let them settle their differances.



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27 Feb 2006, 6:06 pm

You know johnnie, that may just be the perfect idea. It used that for some of the more controversial topics when I was mod (keep them open until the parties get soooooooooooooooo bored about it that they quit). That may just be the solution this board is looking for.

Although there are somethings that simply cannot be ignored due to their legal nature and we need mods to deal with it but if 2 consenting adults want to go at it, I say let them. There are a few brawls I would like to see. :twisted:


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27 Feb 2006, 6:17 pm

Give that Jonnie a coconut!



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27 Feb 2006, 7:15 pm

Or.. How many trolls & wronguns does this board need?



(not directed at anyone inparticular)


(just thought it sounded nice)



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27 Feb 2006, 7:49 pm

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somethings that simply cannot be ignored


True,different type of forum and some people are here because of personal problems.

If the mods know the 2 people can hold there own,send them out back and let them have at it. It won't be advisable to send somebody who is going through severe emotional problems out back to get finished off by somebody who is a blackbelt in keyboard karate. :wink:

I'm not suggesting throw some stranger that walks into town into the arena with the lions for entertainment. 8O

I haven't read this board long enough to have a clue about who is causing problems,just noticed these complain about the mod posts and figured there has to be some long on going squabbling.

If the majority of people exert positive peer pressure,the need for moderating is further reduced.
Somebody gets jumped on and with other people saying hey that ain't nice further reduces the need for moderating. The person attacked doesn't feel all alone like everyone is picking on them, as long as they get support from other people when somebody attacks them.



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Thanks for the coconut,it's 20 degree's out :( I wish I was near palm tree's.

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The name thrown at people that don't kiss the main click of posters butts and aren't good little groupies trying to be accepted into the click. I'm 46 and probably have AS and at this point in life could care less one way or the other if I'm accepted into any click,I'm used to not being accepted and sure ain't going to act like somebody I'm not to be accepted.



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27 Feb 2006, 10:22 pm

Yeah, you've got a good point, Johnnie. We've already got a more heavily-moderated forum for people who need a safe spot to talk about emotional issues. It would probably help to have one where people could duke it out to their hearts' content, too.



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28 Feb 2006, 5:40 am

I think a lot of aggravation (and resultant workload for mods) could be averted with an 'ignore' feature. Some people never seem to engage thoughtfully in constructive debate, but seem quite happy to chip in every 5 mins with a rolleyes and carefully worded wind-up.

Now, i know thats a sad thing to suggest on a support forum. But imo lifes too short to be wasted on them. How about supporting the open, engaging members of this community?

Perhaps there could be an ignore feature that only works on the less-important topical forums- politics/news etc. The more support orientated forums - members only/the haven/relationships etc - could remain unaffected, so everyone would be able to access the same level of mutual support. In fact certain people might find, under those circumstances that support was more forthcoming.



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28 Feb 2006, 5:56 am

Alex, what do you look for in a moderator?

Sorry, but i'm really very interested by some of your choices.

Leadership qualities?
People that cope with stress easily?

Enlighten me.



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