Sometimes "normal" forums are easier to post on.

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Thats pretty much how communication should be.


But yeah, even NTs have issues seeing sarcasm in the form of text unless obvious hints are given. The best way to deal with it. If your not sure it is sarcasm, just consider it as sarcasm, makes things less stressful.

I don't joke around about stuff like that.

Secondly, I've stirred the pot in this thread enough, already. If everybody wants me to leave this thread, I will, no questions asked. I should have never started posting in this thread to begin with. I was trying to act all tough and it backfired. I'm just going to be myself, from now on, and post only nice things. That way, nobody will get hurt. I was angry at the world, and I was being stupid in this thread. I apologize.

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I don't think you've stirred the pot at all, and so what if you did. Sometimes the pot needs to be stirred or stuff will stick to the bottom and burn. Anyway, I think you are a lovely person and one of my favorite posters on WP because you are so kind and have such interesting insights on life. So - please don't think you have done anything wrong because you have not.

And really CR, I'm sure nobody wants you to leave this thread.
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I happen to like the more straightforward nature of communication on this forum.

you shouldn't be surprised that aspies miss sarcasm. and it doesn't carry well over the internet lots of times.

I am relating to you VVJ, in that I come into new environments, size them up, decide what is wrong by my standards, and try to fix it. To me this is the logical thing to do. I have crashed and burned this way so many times. You seem like a very intelligent person with alot to offer. But I don't think anyone is going to change their way of being here. At least you have expressed yourself.

Sarcasm is overrated anyway. Sure, it's loads of fun if done intelligently, like in the Blackadder series, to name an example. But in the hands of average people with no real particular talent for that kind of humor, you and I presumably, it often becomes this really heavy sword with which we, often unintentionally, hurt other people and thereby ourselves. I don't say that we can't make jokes on this forum (I often do), but please aim for clarity and precision in your jokes, in order to make them look like what they are, jokes, and not some kind of veiled insults. That's what I like about this forum, by the way, its crystal clarity and often brutal, childlike honesty. And it's just that sarcasm, and to a lesser extent irony, is often diametrically opposed to clear and honest thought, by obscuring and veiling it under some other thing that purports to be its opposite. Also, like other people mentioned, remember that sarcasm, in order to be properly understood, needs the support of inflections of the voice, subtle shifts in facial expression, and stuff like that. Emoticons just are too poor a substitute for that, I think.

Finally, let me remind you that the word "sarcasm" is derived from the Greek "sarkazo", i.e., to tear away the flesh. That's not a very nice thing to do, is it? Tearing away someone's flesh, I mean, even if done only metaphorically. It's really quite a brutal rhetorical device, the oral counterpart of an axe, and should only be used with great care. Just my opinion though,

I find no difference in posting here and posting on Free Dominion and Project Alberta...except it seems this site is more heavily moderated than Free Dominion and Project Alberta.These sites are all privately owned, so it is up to the owners to decide the level of moderation.I would prefer it be up to the owners to decide this, rather than the nanny state, which is why I never have complained about the heavy moderation.This is Alex's site and he paid for it, therefore he is entitled to decide how it is run, just as FD is with it's lax moderation.

I would rather have a mod here deleting posts and deciding what is acceptable instead of some censorship goon from the Canadian Human Rights commission.

It's harder for everyone to catch sarcasm online because there is no tone of voice. That's why we have emoticons.


I think I do good with catching sarcasm here, I go by the emoticons and the wording. Sometimes wording alone, I just know it's sarcasm.

The 'normal' forum I post on is actually quite abusive, even the mods are like that. But because it's a music festival forum with a few members I get along with I've stopped having petty arguments (honestly about what fast food restaurant has the best fries) and turned into the nice girl that helps the noobs.

I understand what the OP is saying. I sometimes am surprised about what people talk about here. There are differing levels of emotional immaturity/ maturity here. I know I get into quarrels with people but I must remember that just because I am a certain way doesn't mean everyone will be.
I remember when I started posting here I had to lay off the sarcasm a bit.
But you've just got to accept people for who they are. You can't change them. Instead of getting all hot and bothered about it just ignore it. It's hard but what can you really do?

I have no problem telling people it was sarcasm or just a joke if they took what I said seriously.

yeah, I can be one of the more.... ridiculously sarcastic and hammy members of AS, so yeah... bout explains me.

I have my own sense of humor here and some aspies have noticed that. At least they can pick up on it.

I hate too much sarcasm. It s**ts me. Use in moderation people.