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01 Mar 2010, 7:20 pm

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The nearest "pride" thing I can think of is that I'm proud to be a socialist, and again I don't often volunteer that to the general population. Too many right-wingers about, so there's no point inviting contempt unless I've already sounded the people out a bit first. If I could weed out all the right-wingers from my life then there'd be no problem, but that's difficult, especially with a day job. Maybe when I quit working I'll be able to just stick to suitable people for most of the time.

I don't see any contradiction in being proud of a trait and keeping quiet about it. To my mind, if I'm in a minority, it's logical to be careful, because pride isn't power. But it's a great shame that it has to be that way.

I would tell people all the time that I'm a communist, or left wing or whatever. I remember when my sister told me I couldn't be a communist. That was funny. I can't choose my own ideals?
When I was very active in communism I was probably lonelier than I am now. People my age were apathetic towards politics and other people misunderstood it (communism that is). I admit that I did get a bit obsessed with the Soviet Union but grew out of it.
But I didn't care what people thought about me. I had already been picked on for being straightedge, emo...you name it. And I'll probably get picked on for being autistic. Not that it bothers me. People who are like that I have no time for.

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I don't see how anyone could be proud of being autistic/having Asperger's Syndrome. After all, you are autistic because genes arranged themselves in a certain way (or because of chemicals or vaccines, depending on your point of view). Either way, you didn't put any effort into being autistic so you can't be proud of it because it's not your achievement.

You can be proud of yourself for overcoming difficulty X you have due to autism, or you can be proud of the things certain people with autism have done, but you can't be proud of being autistic. It makes no sense. It's like saying you're proud to be an American. You can be proud of America or happy to be an American, but unless you immigrated you can't be proud of being an American because you didn't put any effort into it.

Well said, especially about the whole nationalism thing. I get that a lot over here - "I'm a proud Australian, I was born here."


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02 Mar 2010, 9:33 am

I haven't even had the diagnostic test yet, so I can't with a clear conscience tell people. I would tell people in a heartbeat, though, if I ever get tested & diagnosed. Right now, I'm left telling people that I get very scared around people & don't know what to say to them &/or that I have a hard time understanding things that are said to me & what I'm expected to do. It's nothing anyone understands, so if I knew for certain I was on the autism spectrum, I think it would make others understand me a bit better. I know learning about it has certainly made me understand myself better.


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03 Mar 2010, 1:11 pm

Well, i don't have any issue with telling people. I haven't felt this urge to hide it from people that a lot of people here seem to have. I don't go yelling it from the rooftops, but most people i work with and stuff know. I do know that some people i work with have been negative about it though, and that might be a reason why some people hide it. For example, a few days ago there was a little misunderstanding about what this new girl in my department wanted me to help with, so i briefly explained to her that i didn't always pick up on those things, so if she wanted me to do something to clearly tell me instead of expecting that i already know it, because i have AS. I thought that was a perfectly reasonable explanation, but she just said that "too many people use that as a crutch." 8O So, i guess sometimes when you say it, people think you're just trying to get special treatment since they can't visibly see your disability. Even if you're doing the best you're able to, they just see a somewhat odd regular person who doesn't care.



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03 Mar 2010, 7:12 pm

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Well, i don't have any issue with telling people. I haven't felt this urge to hide it from people that a lot of people here seem to have. I don't go yelling it from the rooftops, but most people i work with and stuff know. I do know that some people i work with have been negative about it though, and that might be a reason why some people hide it. For example, a few days ago there was a little misunderstanding about what this new girl in my department wanted me to help with, so i briefly explained to her that i didn't always pick up on those things, so if she wanted me to do something to clearly tell me instead of expecting that i already know it, because i have AS. I thought that was a perfectly reasonable explanation, but she just said that "too many people use that as a crutch." 8O So, i guess sometimes when you say it, people think you're just trying to get special treatment since they can't visibly see your disability. Even if you're doing the best you're able to, they just see a somewhat odd regular person who doesn't care.

That doesn't sound like you were using it as a crutch at all. It's sad that some use it as an excuse whereas those that are more affected by it really need people to understand them.


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03 Mar 2010, 7:24 pm

I don't tell people because there is no way I can smoothly slide it into a conversation without somehow seeming like even more of a freak.


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03 Mar 2010, 7:28 pm

I still refuse to tell people I have it and my mom thinks I should.


I don't think people need to know my condition when I tell them what problems I have. Back when I worked swing shift, I told my office clerk it's not that I am lacking common sense, I am just not good at reading between the lines and he needs to be direct with me and he still didn't seem to get it. He still had the same attitude. I don't know if the label would have changed anything if I told him.

But not everyone has heard of it and they might want to know what it is and then I am going to have to explain to them what it is and I don't want to go there. I can tell them to look it up but that sounds unfriendly. Or I can just say it's a form of autism. But then they might go onto thinking "But you don't look autistic" or think I am BSing because I look normal. Or they might believe me thinking that explains my behavior and they don't go asking what it is. They might decide to look it up when they get home.



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03 Mar 2010, 7:39 pm

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I still refuse to tell people I have it and my mom thinks I should.


I don't think people need to know my condition when I tell them what problems I have. Back when I worked swing shift, I told my office clerk it's not that I am lacking common sense, I am just not good at reading between the lines and he needs to be direct with me and he still didn't seem to get it. He still had the same attitude. I don't know if the label would have changed anything if I told him.

But not everyone has heard of it and they might want to know what it is and then I am going to have to explain to them what it is and I don't want to go there. I can tell them to look it up but that sounds unfriendly. Or I can just say it's a form of autism. But then they might go onto thinking "But you don't look autistic" or think I am BSing because I look normal. Or they might believe me thinking that explains my behavior and they don't go asking what it is. They might decide to look it up when they get home.

I think it's important to tell those close to you. If I don't I feel like I'm lying to them and those 'friends' that didn't tell didn't feel like friends at all. I would rather people know than looking at me weird for sitting away from people and not joining in on games. Sometimes I think they forget I told them too. Like it feels like my mum has forgotten.
Hiding something from someone because you don't know how they'll react to it can't be good for your self esteem.


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03 Mar 2010, 7:53 pm

Also, you people are taking the 'proud' thing too literally. What I just meant was that those that are happy, content, doing A-OK with their AS enough to not want to be cured because they don't want to lose their skills still keep it hidden from people. And it's probably due to a lack of self esteem and a fear to be alienated. But like I've been saying - who cares what they think? You shouldn't be around people who would treat you bad for being yourself.


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