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03 Mar 2010, 2:09 am

It depends in what context. If you liked someone and were nervous to talk to them and your friend said 'just be yourself' meant to just act like your normal self, not try to impress them by making up a bunch of stuff, that you will have to keep lying to them about. And lying is not a good way to start a friendship/relationship.

I'm always myself. When people ask what do I do, as in a job I don't say 'well I'm in between jobs' I say 'I'm unemployed.' I far too honest, and that's a trait I like about me. Why try to be someone to impress a group of people that won't like who you really are? It's better to avoid that group altogether. Guess I'm happy that I don't have to see a lot of people. Even where I may work. There's like two people there, and the employer knows I have Asperger's. And I'm not going to pretend to be someone else to make people happy, like my family. They can just deal with it.


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03 Mar 2010, 4:52 am

That phrase has always left me kind of puzzled. It has never occurred to me to not be myself. I've never woken up one morning and thought "Hey, I think I'll be King Herod today" (to use an example).


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03 Mar 2010, 1:08 pm

Yes, people have said that to me over the years, and it left me puzzled.
What exactly did they mean?
Most of the things people told me were usually things I'd ponder and build personal theories upon their statements only to find out that they weren't being as serious about their own apparently idle statement as I was.

The idea of pretending to be someone else is rather fascinating. Life is a stage... :D


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03 Mar 2010, 9:56 pm

"Just be yourself" means "We are not idiots, we can all tell you are trying to manipulate the way we see you". But everyone does it to some degree, for that is what makes us human, our ability to manipulate the world we live in.


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04 Mar 2010, 1:22 am

Michhsta wrote:
I am interested to hear how many people have had that said to them......and ......what does that mean?

Intellectually, imo, it means to be "your authentic self".......ahah.......yeah....okay.

If I was to be my authentic self, I would be placed in a bubble with a view of the ocean, the latest Stephen King novel and algebra problems. Not to mention the most recent season of Ren and Stimpy, Spongebob Squarepants and True Blood. No phones, no talking......and complete silence while I contemplate taking over the world. A Hannibal Lecter mask may also be applied intermittently.

Is my authentic self ready for the world......or is the world ready for my authentic self?

I doubt it.......

With a society driven by plastic, perfection and performance vehicles.......I am sorely lacking.

When humanity states that authenticity is the spiritual pinnacle of happiness and self-fulfillment, yet behave in the exact opposite way, I flounder around in this gross deception.

And I am a victim of the "just be yourself" propaganda........I have told my son many times.

I wonder if he looks at me in the same confused way that I find me looking at myself 36 years later.

Besides how can I be my authentic self, when I have no idea what my authentic self is? Nothing is authentic when it is observed. Just by the nature of observing me, I am changed.

Stumped on that one......

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07 Mar 2010, 2:51 pm

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"Just be yourself" is pretty useless advice.

Here's what it really means: "I can see you are anxious about navigating a particular social situation. I can navigate that social situation with ease but I can't put into words how that is done because I do it using subconscious behavioural subroutines I learned as a toddler. I assume you also learned those behavioural subroutines as a toddler and it is just a thin veneer of stress that is keeping you from accessing them. Let go of the stress and the subroutines will become accessable to your subconscious."

All of this assumes you have those behavioural subroutines buried in your brain and when you let go of the worry, they will float up to an accessable level since they are a part of "yourself" and have been for almost your entire life. As it turns out, this is not an accurate assumption.



brilliantly put



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07 Mar 2010, 10:51 pm

I think that when NTz say 'just be yourself' they very often mean 'just fit in'.

Since NTz represent the vast majority of our species, they probably subconscioiusly mean fit in with NTz.

I can't recall meeting an Aspie in real life and I can't even remember hearing 'just be yourself' from anyone that I remotely suspected as being AS.

Since discovering my AS I certainly am 'just being myself' a lot more and recognising how I really DON'T fit in when I am 'being myself'.

It is far less tiring for me now that I realise that I am usually a fish out of water in social situations.

I don't 'try' quite so hard, which keeps my stress levels down 'at parties' and this allows me to focus more on what the situation does have to offer........like maybe the unusual pieces of art in the house/hotel, the beautiful garden, the color of the sky and just occassionally someone that I happen to be speaking with.

Here's what happened the other evening at one of the few parties that I have been to recently.

I noticed (yes, even me) that one of the men at my table wasn't making eye contact with me :!:

I 'assumed' that he didn't like me but because I wasn't too stressed about being the center of attention, I also noticed that he wasn't making eye contact with ANYONE :idea:

During a discussion about movies (remarkably started by someone ELSE) I mentioned Paranoid schitzophrenia (Beautiful Mind I think) to which he retorted that 'there was nothing wrong with Paranoid Schizophrenia :!:

He's an environmental engineer :arrow:


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07 Mar 2010, 11:03 pm

I've been myself my entire life, with no problems.


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21 Mar 2010, 3:02 pm

Some of you guys sound like you're saying "be yourself" is insincere and it really means "be plastic." I'm not sure that it is for NTs, because they're lucky enough they can say and do what comes naturally and still have people like them. After all, everyone else is like them and says or does similar stuff. Whereas I think if a lot of us were actually ourselves--say, started talking about our special interests or stimming or getting excited about shiny things--most people would react unfavorably, including probably the people who give this advice. I hesitate to think NTs always are actually saying "be fake" because I've been told "be myself" by someone who I think really did have my best interests in mind, and really meant it. I think they just don't get that "be yourself" doesn't really mean "be like me, with maybe a slightly different set of interests."



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21 Mar 2010, 3:28 pm

riverspark wrote:
pbcoll wrote:
What they really mean is 'Be yourself, my way, or I won't like you.'


Absolutely! Or as Metallica once put it, "You can do it your own way--if it's done just how I say."

Whenever I am "just being myself," that is when the trouble starts. I could never figure out when I was a kid and young adult why the same people who said that to me got mad when I took their advice. I was SO confused by that!!

The three years (from mid-2006 to mid-2009) that I could keep the mask in place, I enjoyed more success and popularity than I ever had in my life. I wasn't really *not* being myself, but I was a modified, socially acceptable version. I miss those days and am actively planning to get them back.


I hope you do if that's what truly makes you happy.



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21 Mar 2010, 3:46 pm

I got told to 'be myself' and from what I could make of it, they were really telling me not to be weird.



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21 Mar 2010, 7:19 pm

This is how I feel about "Just be yourself."

In better curcumstances what they would mean is "just accept yourself and move on.", but I had it few times that seemed to indicate they had "better things" to pay attention to. :? Naturaly, I do the majority of my planning and thinking through to the walls and furniture.

"I'm nervous about tomarrow." I say this expecting a little encouragement, but instead get something else.
"Just be yourself, hun. You're fine." Subject continues their leasure, but sighs or shows subtle frustration if I talk about the matter further.



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22 Mar 2010, 12:54 am

pbcoll wrote:
What they really mean is 'Be yourself, my way, or I won't like you.'



that's close to my guess: I was thinking it's more of "be yourself....but of course how different from me could you honestly be, so y'know...like that!"

"Be yourself" means nothing, and it never has.

Just remember that it's a saying coming from the very society that pushes superficiality and shallowness; do you really expect it to mean something deep and genuine?

Gotta stop giving so much credit to those who honestly don't deserve it, really.....


Do I mean it? Of course...but I literally mean "be yourself".

I don't try to act like others anymore; I'm just me. I like it.

Do many people dislike me/disapprove of me? Sure, and they always have and always will. In a way though, it may actually come to help me:

I'm hoping to be very rich and successful in time, and given time, someone's gonna come along and ask for money because they'll turn into leeches who just want to mooch off me. When I turn them down, they'll spring that "we thought you were cool" bull****" on me, and I'll know they're totally full of it, cause they never did, and never would've otherwise.



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22 Mar 2010, 1:35 am

I've said it often and I meant it.


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22 Mar 2010, 3:49 am

Be yourself... just make sure you are willing and able to defend yourself.

Long before I discovered I was an Aspie, I got utterly fed up with the arbitrary rules foisted upon me by society.

If I want to walk around in pink fuzzy slippers, comfortably worn in jeans (generally implies a few holes/tears, and not washed until they stink), a "wife beater" undershirt, and these:

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I damn well shall.

It amuses me, the hell with anything else.



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22 Mar 2010, 9:05 am

"Be yourself" is in direct opposition with "blend in, socialise, be like all the rest" which they are propagating all the while as well and that causes confusion.

This "self" is a consequence of years and years of conditioning and even if someone would want to be "himself" it would take at least as equal amount of time to de-condition, so that whole idea is a non sequitur.

"Be yourself" for me means limiting social contact to the bare minimum needed for survival, because I can't fake, and they wouldn't like my "self" (based on the experience so far) , no matter what they say.