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SabbraCadabra
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23 Apr 2010, 2:31 pm

LostNFound wrote:
And there's nothing inherently dangerous about a substance we all ingest regularly that has chlorine in the compound composition along with another element that's just as volatile and dangerous in free form.


You mean tap water?

It always kind of creeps me out that we're willingly drinking something that will kill algae instantly and harm fish if poured into an aquarium. Also, depending on where you live, we're also drinking something that dentists tell us never to swallow (flouride).

I always think water tastes better anyway when you leave it out overnight and the chlorine and what-nots evaporate. I wish I had a great big tank to fill and just let sit for drinking.

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As for aspartame I recall reading a fear mongering website testifying that though aspartame as a whole is harmless, the body breaks it down into base chemicals that are harmful to at least some degree. I regretfully forget what the suppossed chemicals were.


Formaldehyde, but I think it said your body would have to reach unreasonable temperatures to do so.

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I'd like you guys to check out the new Double Down offering from KFC. Just when you thought it could get no worse.


I already have, and it was pretty tasty 8)

It's not really that bad for you, fatwise, but like most processed foods in our country, the sodium is through the roof.


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23 Apr 2010, 2:59 pm

Once you train your taste buds to eat real food- not processed, the sugar and fat addiction goes away and your habits get better. Me- I love salty savory things the most. I love me some soy sauce. A billion Asians cant be wrong! Most of the food at my place is home made and home-grown when possible. I cook in olive oil. Our meals are fantastic tasting and our cholesterol is excellent, even eating the eggs (they are not the problem). Artificial sweeteners are the only thing that is really bad here, but I am not convinced this is true anyway. I get very low blood sugar, so I have to avoid concentrated sugars, simple carbs due to my overactive pancreas. A diet coke a week and equal in my coffee is how I keep from overdoing sugars.

If you look at ingredient lists you would be surprised- even whole wheat bread had HFC- that is just crazy! We are better off making our own foods, even bread, but I understand why it isn't practical- even I cant make everything!



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24 Apr 2010, 12:01 am

SabbraCadabra wrote:
LostNFound wrote:
And there's nothing inherently dangerous about a substance we all ingest regularly that has chlorine in the compound composition along with another element that's just as volatile and dangerous in free form.


You mean tap water?

It always kind of creeps me out that we're willingly drinking something that will kill algae instantly and harm fish if poured into an aquarium. Also, depending on where you live, we're also drinking something that dentists tell us never to swallow (flouride).

I always think water tastes better anyway when you leave it out overnight and the chlorine and what-nots evaporate. I wish I had a great big tank to fill and just let sit for drinking.

LostNFound wrote:
As for aspartame I recall reading a fear mongering website testifying that though aspartame as a whole is harmless, the body breaks it down into base chemicals that are harmful to at least some degree. I regretfully forget what the suppossed chemicals were.


Formaldehyde, but I think it said your body would have to reach unreasonable temperatures to do so.

LostNFound wrote:
I'd like you guys to check out the new Double Down offering from KFC. Just when you thought it could get no worse.


I already have, and it was pretty tasty 8)

It's not really that bad for you, fatwise, but like most processed foods in our country, the sodium is through the roof.


Actually I was referring to table salt, but that's a good point on the water. From what I understand, free chlorine is much less used these days. A toxic chlorine compound called chloramine is used instead. Ironically, free chlorine would usually be dissipated out of the tap water by the time a person might use it. Chloramine is much more stable diluted in water and even the old aquarium trick of aging the water a few days doesn't relinquish it very well. Chloramine has been stated for decades as likely having considerable carcinogenic potential and level ppm allowed in water processing had stipulations imposed. Who knows how potentially carcinogenic tap water is? I certainly don't.

If aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde then I guess we're giving the mortician a step up in his game. Gotta research that again. Wow.

Actually the fear mongering over aspartame brought me back to the tap water. Remember the big tizzy about flouride causing this or that. Some even so far as to suggest the government controls the populace with it somehow. :P

But I guess it goes like this. You look at the big picture and not even a hundred years ago people lived almost half what the average is today. So statistically if the industrial revolution's effect on us is slow poison, then it is very slow indeed. Nevermind that Sinclair fellow and canned rat viscerae.



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24 Apr 2010, 12:10 am

I just don't like how aspartame tastes.



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24 Apr 2010, 12:21 am

Shebakoby wrote:
I just don't like how aspartame tastes.


Nobody has mentioned the natural but artificial tasting stevia. I thought I liked it from what I've drank such as Lifewater. I ran my fingers over a plant at a nursery once and the taste was really nice. So I finally got around to splurging on a big box of packets. Do not like in my coffee at all! Has this creepy creep to the sweet kicking in on the tongue and left quite a bitter aftertaste. Very disappointed. Love it or not, and despite being natural, you know how long it took before the U.S. government would even allow it to be sold as an herb? A very long time. And turned out Asia had been using the stuff for decades. U.S. just couldn't make up mind if it was safe, or rather big sugar breathing down their collar more like.

Big perk of sucralose over aspartame for whatever other preferences would be you can cook with it. Had a pretty decent pumpkin pie one year made with that. I was very surprised.



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24 Apr 2010, 5:30 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
I think you're a lot better off being chubby than getting yourself poisoned......amazing that these things are legal isn't it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDA_Fast_T ... nt_Program

Take a guess...


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