Does anyone think a deformed human skull collection is weird

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23 Apr 2010, 1:51 pm

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This discussion reminds me of a program I heard on NPR about creative ways to lay your remains to rest. One I liked was first cremation and then mixing the ashes with concrete and depositing it in the ocean to encourage a coral reef.


I read a book about what happens to cadavers once. And it said a Swedish woman was working on a machine that turns your body into compost, then they put it in the ground and plant a memorial tree over it. I would totally do that if they had this in America. I find the things they do for burial disgusting.


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23 Apr 2010, 2:06 pm

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This discussion reminds me of a program I heard on NPR about creative ways to lay your remains to rest. One I liked was first cremation and then mixing the ashes with concrete and depositing it in the ocean to encourage a coral reef.


I read a book about what happens to cadavers once. And it said a Swedish woman was working on a machine that turns your body into compost, then they put it in the ground and plant a memorial tree over it. I would totally do that if they had this in America. I find the things they do for burial disgusting.


There are many interesting things to donate your body for-someone gave me a book called Stiff by Mary Roach that goes into this. One example is using just your head so plastic surgeons can practice on you. As far as planting a tree, I guess you could use the ashes at least. I told my mother one of the procedures mentioned in the book about the embalming process. She said, "You know, there are some things you'd rather not hear."
This radio program also mentioned a private place in NC where you could be buried with no casket (I'm not sure about the embalming).



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23 Apr 2010, 2:17 pm

:D Alas, poor Yorick! It never ceases to amaze me how somber some of these discussions become. At the end of the day, a body is just a shell. It's a vehicle for getting the consciousness from point A to point B, while it's marooned on this planet. It can be used for utility or for sport, but when the consciousness vacates or abandons it, for whatever reason and under whatever circumstance, it's just a bag of meat. Unless someone intentionally goes to lengths to preserve it, it automatically disassembles and is recycled.

What I can't understand is why people insist on pumping it full of preservatives that are toxic to the living if they leech into the ground and which will over time only turn the corpse into a large blob of slimy soap - then sealing it in a ridiculously expensive box, inside a concrete vault, so it continues to take up space for no damned good reason. It's the same as hillbillies putting useless old cars up on blocks in their yards. At least they can claim that's some sort of folk-art decoration. If you bury a body in a concrete vault you can't even claim it's a decorative soap. :roll:

As for the Egyptian Mummies - their entombment may have been seen as sacred within their culture, but their culture has been nonexistent for thousands of years. At least their accomplishments are still revered as having artistic value. No, if they were still here, they probably wouldn't appreciate the difference in point of view, those obsessively committed to a religious belief are rarely that adaptable. But if they weren't being respected and admired as historical artifacts, they'd still be slowly decomposing in the desert shadows, benefiting no one. I think we're being far less disrespectful to place them in museums than the grave robbers who stole most of their stuff shortly after the funerals were over. Those rapscallions were from the same culture and ripped off the dead, anyway. In their defense, sometimes that's the only way to get a rich man to part with a penny. :twisted:

I don't think I'd care to see art exhibits made of cadavers, but I'd be highly flattered if my clients were to leave their tattoos to their loved ones, to be framed and hung over the mantelpiece. Right above their cremation urn.

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23 Apr 2010, 3:52 pm

We don't do embalming for the same reasons that the Egyptians did--we do it so that we have a week to plan the funeral. I agree with you on the chemicals thing, but really, are people going to stop doing it? We can't even get them to use reusable shopping bags.

A body may be just a thing once you're through with it; but it was your most personal possession, and that should be respected. You don't go and take a dump on people's living room carpet once they're dead; you shouldn't desecrate their bodies either. The person may no longer use their bodies, but their existence isn't any less real just because it's in the past rather than the present...


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23 Apr 2010, 4:04 pm

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No not at all. I'd like to collect animal skulls but my parents make me keep them outside until I figure out how to clean them. When I get my own house and when people come over they will feel like they are in a museum. When people come into my room, they think they are in a meerkat museum.

I read Jeffry Dahlmer use a 57 gallon plastic barrel filled with hydrochloric acid to remove the flesh of his victims…. I don’t know how safe that method is, but apparently that method worked… Now I’m not saying you should do that! But I’m saying it is a tried and true method of removing flesh. “OF PEOPLE” I don’t know if it works on furry animals though….


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23 Apr 2010, 5:58 pm

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What I can't understand is why people insist on pumping it full of preservatives that are toxic to the living if they leech into the ground and which will over time only turn the corpse into a large blob of slimy soap - then sealing it in a ridiculously expensive box, inside a concrete vault, so it continues to take up space for no damned good reason. It's the same as hillbillies putting useless old cars up on blocks in their yards. At least they can claim that's some sort of folk-art decoration. If you bury a body in a concrete vault you can't even claim it's a decorative soap. :roll:


Agreed. But what really pisses me off is the guilt tripping cost involved. We cremated my father for about $300. Then we went to an area in the mountains nearby called Sweet Annie's Hollow and sprinkled him there. It turns out that "Sweet Annie" was a camp following prostitute during the Revolutionary War and my father liked to crack jokes about how he wanted to be buried "in Sweet Annie's Hollow". So we did. :)



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23 Apr 2010, 6:16 pm

(On the original topic. I'm too caught up in this lol)
Holy crap!! You can BUY things like this? Without being super rich? (Or are they expensive...)

Jesus christ, where can I get a deformed skull collection? I already have a collection of photographs of things of this general nature hahahaha. A whole collection of deformed/malnourished bones of different types would be amazing... though skulls only would probably take up less space.
Ahhhhh- off to do some research now...


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23 Apr 2010, 6:35 pm

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:D Alas, poor Yorick! It never ceases to amaze me how somber some of these discussions become. At the end of the day, a body is just a shell. It's a vehicle for getting the consciousness from point A to point B, while it's marooned on this planet. It can be used for utility or for sport, but when the consciousness vacates or abandons it, for whatever reason and under whatever circumstance, it's just a bag of meat. Unless someone intentionally goes to lengths to preserve it, it automatically disassembles and is recycled.

What I can't understand is why people insist on pumping it full of preservatives that are toxic to the living if they leech into the ground and which will over time only turn the corpse into a large blob of slimy soap - then sealing it in a ridiculously expensive box, inside a concrete vault, so it continues to take up space for no damned good reason. It's the same as hillbillies putting useless old cars up on blocks in their yards. At least they can claim that's some sort of folk-art decoration. If you bury a body in a concrete vault you can't even claim it's a decorative soap. :roll:

As for the Egyptian Mummies - their entombment may have been seen as sacred within their culture, but their culture has been nonexistent for thousands of years. At least their accomplishments are still revered as having artistic value. No, if they were still here, they probably wouldn't appreciate the difference in point of view, those obsessively committed to a religious belief are rarely that adaptable. But if they weren't being respected and admired as historical artifacts, they'd still be slowly decomposing in the desert shadows, benefiting no one. I think we're being far less disrespectful to place them in museums than the grave robbers who stole most of their stuff shortly after the funerals were over. Those rapscallions were from the same culture and ripped off the dead, anyway. In their defense, sometimes that's the only way to get a rich man to part with a penny. :twisted:

I don't think I'd care to see art exhibits made of cadavers, but I'd be highly flattered if my clients were to leave their tattoos to their loved ones, to be framed and hung over the mantelpiece. Right above their cremation urn.

"and that snarling panther right there used to be Grandpa's right butt cheek...Would you like another Soylent cracker?" :P


This whole post cracked me up. In a good, getting your point across way. Honestly some people on this website should be writers. XD

When I die, I would like my body donated to science. No one's gonna visit my grave anyways, so I'd rather they take the funeral money and throw a party to celebrate that I'm happier dead, and they are still alive.



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23 Apr 2010, 6:47 pm

My dad is donating his body to science…. He has multiple sclerosis so the MS research labs out here in Colorado have an interest in his brain….

Some time in the future some lab tech is going to slice my dads brains into little slices and display them on slides or something along those lines.

And basically the rest of his body is going to be dissected like a slab of meat.

I know this because I’ve had a few cadaver labs back in the day…..

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23 Apr 2010, 6:51 pm

I wouldn't want such things myself, not just because it's human skull, I just don't want a bunch of dead things on display in my home. I also would not have antlers, horns, bearskin, stuffed birds...etc. for home decoration.

I'm definitely not scared of them. I was an art student before. One of my teachers had a skull collection that we studied and drew many sketches of. It's no more creepier than a bunch of animal bones.



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24 Apr 2010, 6:32 am

I've got stuffed animals in my house including a red squirrel, fox and some kind of fowl bird (forgot what it's called), they are all antiques from the Victorians but in excellent condition. And we've got 2 cases with butterflies in also antique, one really big one on the wall in the living room and one small one in the hall. My granddad has dead birds that he found years ago and he's got various animal bones, mostly birds, on display on his shelves.
So I'm used to having dead and stuffed things around. My mum said that a lot of people get freaked out by stuffed animals or grossed out my them which I don't quite get because I think they look really nice. On the internet I've seen stuffed giraffes that died of natural causes in zoos and if my house was big enough I'd get one.


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24 Apr 2010, 12:01 pm

I love taxidermy. I taxidermied a hamster, once. It was hideous, but pretty funny looking. :P



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I love taxidermy. I taxidermied a hamster, once. It was hideous, but pretty funny looking. :P


Have you seen the site crappy taxidermy? Hilarious stuff on there
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24 Apr 2010, 4:14 pm

OMG 8O 8O 8O

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24 Apr 2010, 5:42 pm

I saw that one. EEK.



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24 Apr 2010, 6:39 pm

What a way to die! I wonder if the cat was yawning and the bird flew in there by accident?