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29 May 2010, 10:29 pm

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Considering that it is multiple choice I dont think it is accurate. I found myself thinking that the eyes were "saying" something that was not one of the choices!


Same here. For most of them I'd look at the eyes and think something like "angry" and then there wouldn't be anything even remotely close in the choices, not even "irritated" or "impatient" so I'd look at the options and look back at the eyes after each one and then choose the option that seemed the least unlikely. There were only two where I looked at the eyes and picked an emotion and then looked at the choices and one was very close to what I had seen. The rest of the test I totally guessed on.
Exactly. The multiple choice answers were like a cheat sheet! :)



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29 May 2010, 10:56 pm

I got a 32.

I agree that this tests nothing real--I had to stare at each one for at least 3 minutes. Real life does not work that way.

It reminds me of the photographs of "typical" emotional expressions you see in psychology texts: sad, angry, happy, disappointed--I forget the rest, but there's supposed to be a set of "basic" emotions (with correlating expressions) that comprise all others.

If I can find them I'll let you know what they are.

I got a lot of practice watching actors emote in TV dramas and movies. Yes, I would know the context of the scene, so it wasn't really a "test," but I learned to watch people's eyes very closely--guess it stuck.

Example (for me, anyway): NASH BRIDGES.


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30 May 2010, 12:10 am

This isn't an actual quiz, but, without reading the text, see if you can identify these expressions without having multiple choice suggestions. If you jot down your guesses, or just remember them, you can score yourself.

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/jan/ph ... xpressions



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30 May 2010, 2:12 am

To be perfectly honest, I couldn't finish the test. I started feeling like someone was watching me and I creeped myself out. Started laughing at myself like crazy once I closed the page and shook the feeling. Anybody else have that problem? :lol:

I used to have a lot of posters on my wall, and could never look at their faces because if I did I would feel like I was communicating with them, and that was just way too uncomfortable. Could be why the test creeped me out...I dunno.



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30 May 2010, 2:27 pm

I got a 24 on the test. A lot of them I basically guessed on so I am sure some of it was just by chance. I have never really been in the habit of solely looking at someone's eyes.


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30 May 2010, 2:58 pm

We are, after all, autistic by definition. Therefore, exempt from pasing this test with flying colors.

I do have a great deal of respect for Simon Baron-Cohen and the premise is sound. But it is hard to look at pairs of eyes (ouch) and I also agree that the eye make-up is confounding - at least that's my excuse. And I'm sticking to it :roll:

I wear eye make-up (the Lab Pet is a diva of an Aspie) but that's not why.

OK, just in awe of those here who scored high (sans cheating?) - guess I am resigned to the fact that I'm not good at reading eyes. Sigh.



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30 May 2010, 3:01 pm

These tests are always so inaccurate. Looking at just the eyes, I have honestly no idea. Most of them look expressionless to me, but because of the multiple choice style of the test I usually get them right. The blank eyes are clearly not "aghast", "delighted" or "furious" so by default I'll chose "calm" or something. In a real life situation I'd have no idea.


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30 May 2010, 3:40 pm

I got 23. I had to guess on some of them. It was kind of a weird test.



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30 May 2010, 7:49 pm

bee33 wrote:
This isn't an actual quiz, but, without reading the text, see if you can identify these expressions without having multiple choice suggestions. If you jot down your guesses, or just remember them, you can score yourself.

http://discovermagazine.com/2005/jan/ph ... xpressions


Here's my guesses.

1st face: fear
2nd face: anger
3rd face: ummm... sarcastic smile?
4th face: contempt
5th face: pleasantly surprised
6th face: disgust and anger
7th face: disappointed

Yea. It's harder without the multiple choice.



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30 May 2010, 8:06 pm

28...ADHD though, not ASD.

The odd thing is I don't really watch people's faces ALL that much when I talk to them, and have to make an effort for eye contact. But when I do, certain people are an open book to me.

I do think I misjudge the intensity of people's emotions sometimes, though. I'm not sure if it's a lack of attention or proper perception, or that I perceive so strongly that it "hits" me harder than people intend it to. I also think that sometimes I may see a person's feeling about a situation but if they look at me, I feel that emotion on me.

For those of you with ASD, is it not recognizing the correct emotion, or is it an intensity issue, or both?

(I wonder, though, how I would have scored before I learned to draw? I agree about the bad lighting and other quality issues from the photos, and I think I was using information I know from drawing, from how I would depict an emotion, to fill in what I couldn't make out clearly on the photos. I draw only humans and animals, though--things whose emotions I can't read are of no interest to me to draw. A still life I can't focus on for long. Now, photos of landscapes and starscapes are different for looking at--but I think that may be for spiritual reasons. Actually, I think there IS a connection...that I see life and personality there.)



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30 May 2010, 9:04 pm

Score: 28

At least I can look pictures of eyes in the eye. :lol:


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31 May 2010, 12:01 am

Not sure if this is something anybody would be interested in, but it does relate to the topic.

I'm pretty good at reading faces IRL, but as an amateur artist, I needed an additional level of subtlety to make sure I was conveying the impression I wanted, and to see how just small changes could affect the expressions my drawings would convey. This tutorial is one I found very informative, and I wonder if it could also have real-life applications for people who have trouble recognizing emotions on actual people's faces?

The emotions even "branch" out from a neutral expression to show how they progress from one to the other, and group them into recognizable categories that are easier (to my mind) to follow than the standard "Emotions" poster.

http://cedarseed.deviantart.com/art/Emo ... n-47118559

(Depending on your browser, you MIGHT have to download the image to get it to display where the text is readable.)



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31 May 2010, 1:27 am

25 for me.


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31 May 2010, 1:56 am

SoSayWeAll wrote:
28...ADHD though, not ASD.

The odd thing is I don't really watch people's faces ALL that much when I talk to them, and have to make an effort for eye contact. But when I do, certain people are an open book to me.

I do think I misjudge the intensity of people's emotions sometimes, though. I'm not sure if it's a lack of attention or proper perception, or that I perceive so strongly that it "hits" me harder than people intend it to. I also think that sometimes I may see a person's feeling about a situation but if they look at me, I feel that emotion on me.

For those of you with ASD, is it not recognizing the correct emotion, or is it an intensity issue, or both?

(I wonder, though, how I would have scored before I learned to draw? I agree about the bad lighting and other quality issues from the photos, and I think I was using information I know from drawing, from how I would depict an emotion, to fill in what I couldn't make out clearly on the photos. I draw only humans and animals, though--things whose emotions I can't read are of no interest to me to draw. A still life I can't focus on for long. Now, photos of landscapes and starscapes are different for looking at--but I think that may be for spiritual reasons. Actually, I think there IS a connection...that I see life and personality there.)


Although not officially diagnosed yet and not certain at all about Aspergers ( I think I am too dumb actually), I am certain of being somewhere in the spectrum, so I can give you my perspective.

Often I don't recognize the correct emotions but I do have issues with intensity as well. So to quote Bob Dylan more or less:
I know something "hits" me (hard) but I don't know what it is....

and misjudging the intensity is not uncommon either

I prefer inanimate objects, if I could draw the way I would like to I would draw buildings.



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31 May 2010, 3:57 am

:idea: We all could compile our results and send directly to Simon Baron-Cohen for research purposes. Why not?

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31 May 2010, 3:49 pm

marshall wrote:

People's eyes are rarely that expressive in real life though. These were clearly people acting. In real life I pay more attention to tone of voice than eyes.


That's true , and Ive met just a few sunny, animated people in my time.

'The eyes ' doesn't allow me to real- time decode, anyway, as its a 'distraction' along with the gestures , and I use vocal intonation to understand.....(there is too much going on in novel communications.)
Its spot on for me.


I scored 30.