The Son-Rise Program
DespondentDad wrote:
I just happened to have attended a Son-Rise seminar, and was very impressed with what I heard, so I thought I'd share it. My girlfriend, who is a teacher, was very impressed, and so was my son's teacher who specialises in special needs. I myself have some psychology training, and had already implemented some remotely similar methods long before I ever heard of Son-Rise. If anybody doubts the potential of these methods, you should come and see the difference in my son when he's with me, and when he's with his mother.
Why am I still despondent? Because I'm divorced, his mother is the main carer, and she's not interested in anybody's methods but her own (which is simply to ignore him).
Why am I still despondent? Because I'm divorced, his mother is the main carer, and she's not interested in anybody's methods but her own (which is simply to ignore him).
Okay. It would have been helpful for us to know some of that when you first posted. It's a bit disjunctive, you telling how wonderful this program is, but, yet, you just joined here and choose the name DespondentDad.
Also, do realize, most folks posting here are looking for understanding, not help. (I refer to the people with autism/Asperger's/AS traits who post here, who are the vast majority. It may be different in the "parenting" forum.)
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Aspie Quiz: 110 Aspie, 103 Neurotypical.
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Mysty wrote:
Ferdinand wrote:
No it doesn't.
It is just the idea of 'fixing us', be it for the better or otherwise, is offensive because autism isn't a disease. It's who WE are. The idea of fixing us IS removing who we are, and that makes me feel NTs think they're better than we are mentally.
It is just the idea of 'fixing us', be it for the better or otherwise, is offensive because autism isn't a disease. It's who WE are. The idea of fixing us IS removing who we are, and that makes me feel NTs think they're better than we are mentally.
Seems to me that parents of children with autism aren't wanting to "fix" their children. They are wanting what all parents want. For their children to develop and grow.
I think as adults with autism, or Aspergers, or just traits, it's easy to forget that, with kids, autism is not simply a difference, it's a developmental disorder.
Every single one of us who posts here has verbal abilities. Every one of us is able to communicate in words. And the vast majority of us, I think, use speech. Why is it wrong, then, when parents of autistic children want this same thing for their children?
Not the only example of something that parents want for their autistic children that we, here, pretty much all have.
The website is called autismtreatmentcenter.com. The website says that it is a treatment.
A treatment is not helping develop skills. A treatment is a fix for something.
You can treat malfunctioned skills, but you cannot treat autism. That is what we are saying is wrong. You have a good idea, but the context of such is out of place.
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Ferdinand wrote:
Mysty wrote:
Ferdinand wrote:
No it doesn't.
It is just the idea of 'fixing us', be it for the better or otherwise, is offensive because autism isn't a disease. It's who WE are. The idea of fixing us IS removing who we are, and that makes me feel NTs think they're better than we are mentally.
It is just the idea of 'fixing us', be it for the better or otherwise, is offensive because autism isn't a disease. It's who WE are. The idea of fixing us IS removing who we are, and that makes me feel NTs think they're better than we are mentally.
Seems to me that parents of children with autism aren't wanting to "fix" their children. They are wanting what all parents want. For their children to develop and grow.
I think as adults with autism, or Aspergers, or just traits, it's easy to forget that, with kids, autism is not simply a difference, it's a developmental disorder.
Every single one of us who posts here has verbal abilities. Every one of us is able to communicate in words. And the vast majority of us, I think, use speech. Why is it wrong, then, when parents of autistic children want this same thing for their children?
Not the only example of something that parents want for their autistic children that we, here, pretty much all have.
The website is called autismtreatmentcenter.com. The website says that it is a treatment.
A treatment is not helping develop skills. A treatment is a fix for something.
You can treat malfunctioned skills, but you cannot treat autism. That is what we are saying is wrong. You have a good idea, but the context of such is out of place.
I think you are too fixed on words and their literal meaning, instead of the ideas meant to be conveyed by those words. Words are only an imperfect means of conveying ideas. They don't define reality.
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not aspie, not NT, somewhere in between
Aspie Quiz: 110 Aspie, 103 Neurotypical.
Used to be more autistic than I am now.
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