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10 Jun 2010, 11:53 am

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Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.

they are never angry in your home country?


Well, I guess anger and innocence/kindness are two different things.

I think for Aspies, like Tony Attwood stated in his book... that the AS girls are much less "bitchy" than NT girls. He seriously said that in his book, I just can't remeber which page. But you get what I mean =) Aspie are gentle inside =) We can be agressive, but that's becoz we're hurt or upset....at least in my case it is. I got aggressive when hurt.


then there are those of us with as who are very unpredictable to the point where we pose a "danger" to normals. Kinda like me and my constant grouchiness which can easily lead to me being VERY violent if nudged the wrong way so to speak. My point is there are more than the 'innocent' sort of Aspergian. There are also some that are just a complete nutjob, and so on and soforth.


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10 Jun 2010, 12:04 pm

melbi wrote:
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Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


I know, right?
In my home country, AS is also called "the Angel Syndrome" coz most AS people are usually very innocent and kind.


Youve confused Aspergers syndrome with Angelman Syndrome...



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10 Jun 2010, 12:17 pm

The lack of social relationships, etc could be explained by sociopathy, which would also explain his lack of conscience?



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10 Jun 2010, 12:19 pm

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These uniforms were made by Hugo Boss. Good tailoring is always of value.
I agree they were wonderful, but Hitler didn't project them, despite his drawing skills.

Most people wearing them weren't any evils, because they had this whole ideology deep inside their asses. Wehrmacht's soldiers were boys in their twenties. Most of them weren't the members of NSDAP.

Yes, it seems he just used human psychology, such as our susceptibility to obeying authority, "us vs them" mentality, etc to get them to do what they did.

It makes we wary of people who don't like those of us who are "different" because, although I'm sure they haven't slaughtered millions of Jews lately, their psychological profile would make them susceptible to that kind of brainwashing...



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10 Jun 2010, 2:20 pm

Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


Is there some way what you said isn't a non sequitur?
Please help me out here.



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10 Jun 2010, 2:32 pm

psychointegrator wrote:
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Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


Is there some way what you said isn't a non sequitur?
Please help me out here.


implicit argument: people with AS can not be EVIL

does this help?



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10 Jun 2010, 3:08 pm

IamTheWalrus wrote:
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Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


Is there some way what you said isn't a non sequitur?
Please help me out here.


implicit argument: people with AS can not be EVIL

does this help?


There are evil people in all walks of life; but when someone does a broad, sweeping generalization like that, it just gets annoying. The only broad sweeping generalization I have towards anything is that society is generally a bunch of stupid sheep. Call me a hypocrite or whatever, Im kinda in a bad mood AGAIN. :/


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10 Jun 2010, 3:27 pm

DemonAbyss10 wrote:
IamTheWalrus wrote:
psychointegrator wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


Is there some way what you said isn't a non sequitur?
Please help me out here.


implicit argument: people with AS can not be EVIL

does this help?


There are evil people in all walks of life; but when someone does a broad, sweeping generalization like that, it just gets annoying. The only broad sweeping generalization I have towards anything is that society is generally a bunch of stupid sheep. Call me a hypocrite or whatever, Im kinda in a bad mood AGAIN. :/


:P

you are right about the sheepish majority

and it is a very good day for being angry ....



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10 Jun 2010, 4:50 pm

IamTheWalrus wrote:
DemonAbyss10 wrote:
IamTheWalrus wrote:
psychointegrator wrote:
Zsazsa wrote:
Hitler was pure EVIL...how can anyone think he had AS?


Is there some way what you said isn't a non sequitur?
Please help me out here.


implicit argument: people with AS can not be EVIL

does this help?


There are evil people in all walks of life; but when someone does a broad, sweeping generalization like that, it just gets annoying. The only broad sweeping generalization I have towards anything is that society is generally a bunch of stupid sheep. Call me a hypocrite or whatever, Im kinda in a bad mood AGAIN. :/


:P

you are right about the sheepish majority

and it is a very good day for being angry ....


well Thursdays are usually a good day for me. I just dunno something just seems off today.


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10 Jun 2010, 6:08 pm

I think the proper tense is 'had' because he's dead, and no he was not autistic...



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10 Jun 2010, 6:11 pm

Hitler was a terrible strategist.


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10 Jun 2010, 6:30 pm

I posted in another thread like this before, but I can't be bothered to find it or type it all out again for something this ridiculous.

Hitler was a complete sociopath. Not autistic.


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10 Jun 2010, 6:32 pm

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I don't think everyone with AS is super nice. Where is that impression coming from? We generally have less of a tolerance for human stupidity and clique-mindedness. We don't understand subliminal social cues so we act however we want to. This seems quite nice to me but not to the NT population. I'd actually be curious about Hitler here. Do you think he understood social cues? He obviously had extreme fixated interests. It would make sense that being bullied lead him to becoming a genocidal maniac. Just look at what bullying did to the Columbine shooters. (both rumored to have AS) I don't see why everyone is automatically assuming Hitler didn't have it simply because he was a fascist dictator. He was a vegetarian too.


Hitler seemed to enjoy mass gatherings.... not very aspie like, he was a shrewd manipulator which means overaverage ToM skills, shall I continue? Not all raging psychopaths with a flat and monotonous voice are autists :roll:

Besides,there is no real way of finding out so what is the point speculating about this?
actually, i don't think he liked the crowds so much.

i'd heard he actually didn't want to be fuhrer at first, but that he was pressured into it because he was such an asset to the party.
he looked mored serious than thrilled in his speeches.
& as an artist, he excluded people from all of his paintings (which were actually pretty good, maybe savant?), which people thought was odd.
ironically, it were Jews that helped him sell his paintings.
he was a drug addict later on as people know, prolly used it to cope with things (meth).
& plus with just all his aforementioned anti-social behavior in earlier posts


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10 Jun 2010, 7:26 pm

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Elvis Hitler!

I know lots of Aspie's obsessed with WWII and I just asked them their opinion on whether Hitler had it or not. We shall see. I'm gonna go with a "maybe" here.


I am obsessed with WWII and I say no, not autism.

He should have chosen a musical career like Elvis :lol:


He wanted to be an artist and go to art school, but his father disagree and send him to some tech school.

I think his father damaged his mental health a lot... all his life he's doing things against his father...

anyway, he wanted to be an artist when he was young.


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10 Jun 2010, 7:43 pm

To MONKEY,

Is that some kind of scarasm?
If it is, WOOOOOO for Melbi coz Melbi realised that she does not understand the concept of sarcasm. but maybe she has made progress :D

Well, Melbi is kinda of obsessed with nazi and elizabeth 1 movies recently... and that's the only reason I made this thread. And to take a very important note here!! ! I did not say Hitler has AS, wikipedia did. I just want to know what everyone thinks, that is all :D

and the reason I made the above statement is becoz an Aspie friend of mine pm me said that "saying Hilter has AS is not the smartest thing to do here" so I just want to make it clear that I did not say it, and did not stated that I agree with wiki. Wiki confused, and that's why I want to see what other people thinks. (ok..I started my repetitive speech probs again..soory :oops: )

Last thing I promise,
most people are very repective to each other and Melbi is really happy about it.
so keep it that way. no abusive language or image or any other form of abuse.


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