Which of the following assumptions annoys you more?

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melbi
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17 Jun 2010, 7:20 pm

capriwim wrote:
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number 2,
becoz my parents do that to me everyday....
you don't have AS becoz blah blah blah... blah blah blah...

even if Dr. Tony Attwood diagnose me himself, my parents wouldn't accept that I have AS


Ah, sounds like my dad. Well, he's finally sort of accepting I have Aspergers, but he doesn't like it as a label, and keeps saying that back in his day I'd just be called eccentric, and that there is no need for a label of Aspergers.


lol...ya, my parents hate labels lol...maybe becoz they're ashamed of it. they keep saying that they're not, but they totally are!! !

Mum: you're just stressing out in life, it's not some depression or anxiety disorder
Dad: you're just a naughty kid, there's no need to name it "ADHD"
Mum: you don't need those medication, just cope with it!
Dad: it's not that we don't accept you have AS, we're just worried that the diagnosis might be wrong, and you might be recieving the wrong treatment. we're just worried about you that's all!
Mum: ya, we just want you to be happy.

:lol: :lol: :lol: let me laugh at it :lol: :lol: :lol:
ironically enough, dad's a doctor.
i guess it's hard for my "very proud" parents to accept that their supposedly "perfect" first child isn't that perfect at all :lol: :lol: :lol:


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18 Jun 2010, 6:44 am

I was always told that not listning to people would get me in trouble in the long run...Wrong! If I was the type to listen to people and actualy give a damb, I would have been in trouble.


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18 Jun 2010, 6:50 am

the 2nd one i hate it :roll:



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18 Jun 2010, 7:53 am

# 1

My aspie thought he could not be in a long-term relationship with anyone because of "what was wrong with him."

Talk about your self-fulfilling prophecies.
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18 Jun 2010, 8:20 am

poppyx wrote:
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My aspie thought he could not be in a long-term relationship with anyone because of "what was wrong with him."

Talk about your self-fulfilling prophecies.
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That's the one.



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18 Jun 2010, 9:14 am

Judgmental people are losers, and there's nothing we can do about it. It's not what they say, it's how they say it and what they're doing to your self esteem by their self-serving, narrow-minded mentality.

I probably dislike it the most, when someone immediately assumes I'm Gay, rather than to assume nothing, when I might act differently from some other "normal, mainstream" guys. Of course I've turned that one around to my own benefit, as I have many good, long-time friends who are Gay, and who would probably not have trusted me to be a friend, had I come across as NT. I have nothing against people thinking I'm Gay when it doesn't have any bearing on whatever the situation is; it's just that when an incorrect assumption is made, it can cause all kinds of misunderstandings. Analogy: If I'm driving around town in a truck that looks like a Ford to some people, I'd rather they didn't just go around bugling that "Charles likes Fords", when maybe it's NOT really a Ford, and maybe it's even a borrowed truck. So if I said I was thinking about buying another truck, I'd hate it if everyone showed me deals on Fords...... It's an extra step to have to go over when meeting girls/women, if they were told by others that you're Gay. It's nice to have good, honest friends, Gay or straight, but I wish I didn't have to make myself clear on my orientation at the beginning of any relationship; friendly or dating. I assume the same if the shoe is on the other foot.

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18 Jun 2010, 11:00 am

kx250rider wrote:
Judgmental people are losers, and there's nothing we can do about it. It's not what they say, it's how they say it and what they're doing to your self esteem by their self-serving, narrow-minded mentality.

I sincerely hope you're correct....I'd love to see judgemental people losing heavily - ideally I'd love to see them being excluded and marginalised by the same methods they've used on their victims. But I have a horrible suspicion that they may be the winners as a rule - they seem to be rather well-tolerated by society in general, so maybe putting down anybody different really works for those who are rotten enough to do it. They say that nice guys always come last. :( I don't want that crap in my world so I stick to nonjudgementals and shun the rest. Friendly, caring people are brilliant, I love them to bits :heart: I'm a different guy when I'm with people like that.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:41 am

capriwim wrote:
The difficulty comes when you need support for something specific, and you can only get it by disclosing your diagnosis. Then comes the contradictory barrage of 'There's nothing wrong with you - if you're doing this course you can't have Aspergers and don't need support' and 'Well, if you need support, you're incapable of doing this course and should quit.'


This! And so I say the second option, coming from the self-diagnosed camp. I'm seriously considering getting myself to my doctor and asking him what he thinks. But I'm afraid to because what if he says no ("because you do X, Y, and Z")? Then it's all over. :?


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18 Jun 2010, 11:43 am

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1. That because you have Aspergers, you can't possibly do X, Y and Z.

This one, definitely. Though I do find both assumptions to be quite annoying.



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18 Jun 2010, 11:47 am

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The thing that's annoying about #2 is more along the lines of "If you can do so well at this thing, then why can't you do this other thing? Is it because you're not really 'disabled' but just lazy?" At least that's what I assume their thought process goes like.

People have this insulting notion that "disabled" = "inferior" = "can't do anything". They also have this stupid logic that "above average intelligence" = "above average success" => "above average intelligence" + "struggling with life" = "lazy" + "not trying hard enough". The concept of relative strengths and weaknesses goes right over their head. They can't seem to get it through their thick skulls. They also think people who are truly mentally 'disabled' should be patronized and treated like idiots.


I still struggle with this sometimes, in regards to my own behaviour and current capabilities. :oops:


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18 Jun 2010, 7:39 pm

capriwim wrote:
Which of the following assumptions annoys you more:

1. That because you have Aspergers, you can't possibly do X, Y and Z.

2. That because you can do X, Y and Z, you can't possibly have Aspergers.


X, Y and Z can be various stereotyped things that Aspies can't do (things like empathy, friendships, success at certain kinds of jobs, etc).

I come across both attitudes and they both annoy me, but I think the first annoys me more, because that potentially limits my opportunities and access to employment.


I do not accept "can't" readily.

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