Am I being unfair by using my imperfect English here?

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Tsk. Forgot two commas.

Last edited by jmnixon95 on 15 Jul 2010, 8:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Oh good... I'm not alone in this one. The poster that did that really made my eye twitch more than usual.

i just keep it as trolling because wanting a rule that would ban most of board is rather....idiotic taking in account most people are trying their best now directing that question for those members who have bad grammar is trolling in my account

I see what you're saying, but I don't agree. I think the OP was merely pointing out a problem he saw. The question looked to me like an example of how ridiculous he thought it was that someone would be so uptight over grammar.

To those of you who do NOT find it hard to write in a grammatically correct fashion, but do so regardless, you are acting like little children who are liberated from the constraints of school; preschoolers who find kindergarten too strict. How hard is it to double-check your post to see whether it makes sense or not before you click "submit"? Have you ever seen those examples of paragraphs that people write, where, if the commas are in the wrong places, the intended meaning can go in reverse? And to those of us who are used to reading near-perfect English, the incoherent gibberish that appears in some posts can almost look like this: "kljfajp39709jgmslja-i8-7upojfofjapu0909mfmlljkgpjheuwuwpjejgJgjdjdh9u09u9u."
Seriously, it's not that hard to avoid sounding stupid if ya ain't.

If you aren't. Ain't isn't a word.

I did, but I still don't say "u".

Don't worry, be happy.

That I did

acts committed by someone who wears their ass as a hat (IE: someone who just has their head way up theirs).

Thank you

Extremely hard. I have often severe problems reading what I have written. Worse when as now I post using my iPod, it puts all the material below the readable part of my screen and simultaneously has a spellcheck that happens as I type and sometimes converts typos to the wrong word entirely. Spelled "correctly" (standardized spelling is a cultural thing) so I can't easily spot it using my hyperlexia (which allows me to check spelling sometimes even without comprehension of the words).

Additionally I have physical impairments that often force me to use my iPod (only thing I can use when lying on my side). Meanwhile I have forms of communication impairments that cause problems people do not easily attribute to impairments but rather to me being obstinate or something. I cannot control the length of my writing. It is either long or short. I have often just as much trouble reading it as others do but still cannot control it. I have driven myself to meltdown here and made myself useless for the rest of the day, trying to shorten long writing, and in response been told I could do it if I wanted and treated like I am just spoiled and don't want to readable language write. When I asked if any could help me summarize the person told me that there are no servants here (which is what people call my staff people when they believe I fake autism to lead a life of luxury yeah right).

Meanwhile I can't control tone and been told sound angry when I am not and calm when I am not. Even autistics who I would expect to be lenient, if they think I am angry they treat me bad for it. If I try to explain any of the previous and many more things such people accuse of playing the victim. When all I want is to reassure I am not hurting them on purpose.

And other thing is since I grew up with a severe receptive delay but managed to fake good writing and speech those mechanisms still give me trouble. I can in perfect grammar and sensemaking context say something I am not thinking. Because that is how I learned to communicate was astute pattern matching by repeating plausible strings of sound or letters.

Plus I can generate nonstandard grammar when having certain kinds of language trouble. Can even generate the dreaded wall of text from same. None or maybe rather few of these issues are constant so people easily think I am lazy when I am the oppositely pushing my language skills to the max possible.

So I have much sympathy or whatever it's called (oh and iPod always spells it it's so even when it shouldn't be it always is unless I try in certain way to stop it which I can't when not possible) for those of foreign language or of cognitive trouble with all language even when my language trouble is sometimes less obvious. And people who will hold it against us all can stuff it. (Not those who have trouble but restrain themselves from castigating the same way I restrain myself from screaming at loud cchewers.)

I think that whoever is beefing about your spelling and grammar, really needs to get off of WP, and into the real world.

Wow, really? Hope you realize that there are a multitude of reasons as to why some people make mistakes? I guess I will list them that way you can be a bit more 'ENLIGHTENED' about how things work.

1) The poster was obviously in a rush. Hell, I have done this on occasion. I would be posting something as quickly as I can just so I can get on to what I have actually prioritized.

2) Some people have a hard time remembering the layout of a keyboard. This becomes really noticeable when someone is typing in the dark.

3) Maybe the person has dyslexia.

4) The person in question has forgotten certain grammar rules and word spellings because he/she hasn't had a good reason to use them. Not everyone is going to be writing every day. Talking is simply a much more 'natural' thing to do.

5)The individual in question could also be upset about something, which in turn does affect mental acuity.

6)Individual may be on medications or mind altering substances. When I was on prescription pain relievers after I had my surgery, I know my grammar and spelling got affected while I was on vicodin because of the drowsiness.

There are reasons other than these, but really, point being is to stop acting like everyone who doesn't use proper grammar and spelling in EVERYTHING is a f*****g dumbass. Also, those who complain about the 'distraction' caused by said errors, take a good look at yourself. If you have to absolutely take it out on the individual who made said error, think of it this way. You are just being an obstinate jerkass if you decide to start beating down on someone because of it. What if the person indeed has dyslexia or another problem that can cause difficulties in spelling and grammar. What if the person was genuinely trying to post something constructive. Also if you want to complain about it being spoken as well, then you really piss me the f**k off. I enjoy the various accents of the world.

However, I do get annoyed to hell when people to it on purpose (IE: L33TSP33K). Unless it is used for humor, such as in lolcats. All in all however, starting a bitchfest over grammar is like participating in a "Biggest Idiot" competition, even if you win you are still an idiot. Just learn to treat people with some f*****g dignity. Its no wonder why we live in a crapsack world because people have to constantly start conflicts over trivialities such as grammar, music interests, religion, political beliefs, race, and so on and so forth.

Boo your english is fine, my english sucks

anbuend, you have stated to have communication problems, and I am only giving crap to those who don't. Plus, you are absolutely fine; the few posts of yours that I have read, I find to be eloquently written and seemingly correct.

DemonAbyss10, alright, homeboy. Reasons 1 & 2 are really silly. You could post when you are no longer in a rush. And you could turn on the lights to remedy darkness.
Reason 3 is a disorder, and I'm addressing those without.
Reason 4: you could use the Internet to solve grammar and spelling problems.
Reason 5: I'm ALWAYS upset about something, and my writing skills are unaffected.
Reason 6: answer to reason 4 applies here as well.

Well, unless I know otherwise for a fact, I assume that people are making a good faith effort to communicate as best they can. You just never know, I.e. I would never have guessed that English is Boo's second (er, or third) language.

I grew up around various people who spoke English as a second language, so maybe the connection or feeling about language usage reflecting low intelligence never solidified in my mind. Maybe also from being a foreigner in their country and having the tables turned.