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10 Aug 2010, 7:40 pm

Narnia.


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10 Aug 2010, 8:01 pm

For me as an INTJ, I'd like to go somewhere with very low population. Then of course it's not only about that but I'd like an somewhat even climate, pretty landscape and not hot summers. Also I'm fascinated by islands. I'm not fond of cities, people or extremely pretty landscapes.

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10 Aug 2010, 11:18 pm

I don't mind large groups of people....what I mind is large groups of people who act like sheep, and expect others to do the same. I actually enjoy watching/being around people in the abstract sense....but when those people have more of a mob mentality than a peaceful coexistence one, then it begins to break down and I start looking for the way out.

I find that the best, most comfortable places are the ones in which which different-ness is accepted as a matter of course or general interest.

It's like I always say....I can accept, even embrace extroverts/NTs up until the point that they start questioning in a negative way why someone else isn't behaving the way that they believe that they believe they should be behaving. It reminds me of various social/political debates that characterize many Western societies--abortion or gay marriage, or even Prohibition/alcohol consumption if you want to go back in history to something less "charged:" a person's choice to NOT do a certain thing ought not to confer on that same person the ability to decide that no one else should be permitted to do that same thing. Don't want to drink alcohol? Then don't...but don't tell other people that they can't either just because you choose not to. Same thing about INTJ/MB traits one-vs-another: some personality groups allow for difference quite naturally; others...ummm...not so much.

Like anyone, I would prefer to live among people where how I am--or how we are--does not consciously define every moment of our day. Perhaps the way so many Canadians that I've met in the US, in Canada, and overseas, very often define themselves in terms of what they are "not" ie not American. If your starting point is what you are not then you are giving the things that you are not more power than if you just were what you are.

Blathering alarm just went off. Time to zip it.... :lol:



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10 Aug 2010, 11:32 pm

The moon. That way id finally be alone and get to view the world without being a part of it.



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11 Aug 2010, 12:24 am

My place I would love to live is Jersey (not USA) the island that is off the cost of France I was born there lived there until I was 14 and now live in the UK and I do pop back there every few months and I am planning to move back there within the next two years. The people are layed back over there and living is very easy



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12 Aug 2010, 1:45 am

Captain Cook said Tahiti was paradise, around 250years ago I think.

Its still is. As a surfer, I'd probably go for Taiwan, Hawaii and warmness.

I believe suicide is still really high re Norway Sweden Istonia etc, whereas Thailand and Brazil with there strong sense of family and a high level of religiosity have the lowest suicide rates. Thailand and its neighbours like Laos and Vietnam, and Brazilians are some of my favourite people to be with.

Especially Brazilian girls with their chipmunk mouseketeer good looks, mmmm yummy.



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12 Aug 2010, 2:43 am

@aleutianrocks-Yes! Thank you. Such a pervasive problem...defining yourself as what you're not. I've seen it in Canadians as you have, and seen it in people from other English-speaking countries in Asia...so obsessed about not being American that they forget that their homelands might have redeeming characteristics of their own.

For me...I really do like living in the city. I'd like to go back to Japan. Or back to Chicago. Failing that, NYC, Washington, or a city in the American South with a functional mass transit system (ha!) would do.



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12 Aug 2010, 3:26 am

lightening020 wrote:
If you could escape your current society where would you go?

I am thinking:

Greenland
Iceland
Sweden/Norway
New Zealand
Finland
some Northern Canadian territory/Alaska

Most of those countries/territory just exude a cold and distant but strikingly organic sense of environment, and seem to be far away from the culture of America. American culture/society just does not seem to be for me. I still feel like a foreigner in my own country, I would rather have that feeling in a REAL foreign country maybe where I have to learn a new language so I can start off on a level ground.

where would you go?


Are you biased against warm, steamy places? What is wrong with a place where you have heave to wear a heavy coat?

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12 Aug 2010, 6:39 am

I love cold places. I basically don't get cold. I never wear warm coats, was going to buy a fleece jacket last winter because we had temps down to -30 C. But never came around doing that.

I basically start dying with temps above 20 C. Something in my body makes me not stand hot weather well at all. And we had 32 C this summer.

I notice a lot say Sweden. How come my country has a reputation of being autism friendly?



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13 Aug 2010, 3:23 am

ruveyn wrote:
lightening020 wrote:
If you could escape your current society where would you go?

I am thinking:

Greenland
Iceland
Sweden/Norway
New Zealand
Finland
some Northern Canadian territory/Alaska

Most of those countries/territory just exude a cold and distant but strikingly organic sense of environment, and seem to be far away from the culture of America. American culture/society just does not seem to be for me. I still feel like a foreigner in my own country, I would rather have that feeling in a REAL foreign country maybe where I have to learn a new language so I can start off on a level ground.

where would you go?


Are you biased against warm, steamy places? What is wrong with a place where you have heave to wear a heavy coat?

ruveyn


Im not sure really. I guess most american climates are just straight up boring. South American and Carribean climates seem too tropical and humid. Would be great for a few months, but I couldnt see staying there any longer.

What the northern colder climate countries have, is peace and quiet. I cant really explain it more than that, but there is more to it.



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13 Aug 2010, 3:26 am

frag wrote:
I love cold places. I basically don't get cold. I never wear warm coats, was going to buy a fleece jacket last winter because we had temps down to -30 C. But never came around doing that.

I basically start dying with temps above 20 C. Something in my body makes me not stand hot weather well at all. And we had 32 C this summer.

I notice a lot say Sweden. How come my country has a reputation of being autism friendly?


Who really has the answer for that? Do you think your country is friendly and accommodating? Have you lived in America?



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13 Aug 2010, 4:34 am

I guess Sweden has some kind of reputation that I'm unaware of.

Myself, I can't compare, not been to USA.



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13 Aug 2010, 6:04 am

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.Anyway my mom says I shouldn't go to foreign countries in general because here in America I can be an individual, whereas in other countries there is more pressure to conform. Feel free to debate her on that point if you wish.


Lmao, that's odd. Everyone I know who's been to America says the same thing about the USA!

London is pretty non conformist. Most of the bigger cities are. The smaller towns and villages are a little close minded, but that's the same as every other country in the world.