If diagnosed, can i get a medical marijuana card?

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12 Feb 2011, 9:57 pm

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13 Feb 2011, 10:45 am

Cannabis does not have to be smoked, and in fact should not be if you are using it for medical purposes. There is all sorts of carcinogenic crap in the smoke.

The argument about its efficacy needs research.

In my opinion, cannabis is illegal almost entirely because of economic reasons. It was a competitor to to things like alcohol and tobacco, two very powerful interests, and hemp fiber was a competitor to cotton. (My history on this isn't real solid, but these are factors). The laws were passed were "moral" but it was a bait and switch. Get enough people to fear evil and they will do anything, Marijuana was a low class drug, not an upper class drug like fine whiskey or 100 yea old brandy. Couldn't allow those degenerates corrupting our youth, now could we?

It is interesting that anti-psychotics are "OK" even though they have been shown to have serious, permanent side effects. But they are part of the big pharma money complex so why not?

My brief experience with cannabis was VERY bizarre. It felt like my brain was on fire and my perception of time was so distorted that it was more like a profound hallucination. I stay away from the stuff. But this is also consistent with what other autistics report. Not my specific experience, per se, but atypical and wildly varying responses in general. This makes sense in light of recent research showing autistic's structural differences in the brain.


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13 Feb 2011, 1:08 pm

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It is interesting that anti-psychotics are "OK" even though they have been shown to have serious, permanent side effects. But they are part of the big pharma money complex so why not?


What alternative is there to antipsychotics though? Without them, I would be locked away in a hospital somewhere.


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13 Feb 2011, 2:02 pm

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It is interesting that anti-psychotics are "OK" even though they have been shown to have serious, permanent side effects. But they are part of the big pharma money complex so why not?


What alternative is there to antipsychotics though? Without them, I would be locked away in a hospital somewhere.


I'm not suggesting that anti-psychotics should be eliminated, only that the logic that cannabis is "bad" and pharmaceuticals are "good" is rather weak.

The legalization of cannabis is more about controlling the flow of money than any particular moral argument. If it was really about morality and what is "good for society", alcohol and tobacco would be made illegal. That's not going to happen.


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13 Feb 2011, 4:23 pm

I live in Oregon and we have legal pot here... and I have a card, but not because of an AS diagnosis.

Wavefreak is correct that most of the anxiety about pot is because of the economic threat that it poses to the beer and liquor businesses... not to mention the police, drug enforcement officers, prisons, lawyers... many of whom make their livings off of pot smokers.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:06 pm

I live in California and have a card. You don't need any documentation to get a card, just the cash... I'm almost 65 and was diagnosed about 3 years ago. I use edibles to sleep and CBD oil for anxiety. It works and it works quickly. Within 3 days of taking it per my brothers direction, I was feeling better than I had in over 35 years. I wish I had just started the CBD oil first as I think that controls the anxiety without THC. I can take CBD oil during the day and won't get high. I like that. The only trouble is that I've only found 1 brand of oil that works for me. Fortunately, it was the first one I tried. I'll answer any questions anyone has to the best of my ability. Just PM me. As to Florida, they voted to legalize it in 2014, but got only 57.5% of yes votes. They needed 60% because of the way their state constitution is written. They will try again in the next election...



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07 Feb 2015, 7:28 pm

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Tias wrote:
Sounds more like the OP just wants a legal excuse to smoke weed without having to worry about getting arrested.


That's the same impression that I'm getting.


And even if you guys are right I am of the opinion people should be able to smoke weed without having to worry about getting arrested, even if their only reason is to get high on it, however it does have medicinal uses...and in my personal experience I can say it does help with some autism related difficulties but to each their own.

No excuse should be needed.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:30 pm

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I'd like some so I can give it to my wife - it does wonders for her anxiety and depression. (Can't use it myself, because it makes my lungs seize up, which is in my opinion a Bad Thing.) Sadly, in Washington, neither her condition nor mine calls for medical pot. (California does include anxiety among the conditions officially treated so, but that would require living in Cali, a sacrifice neither of us is willing to make...)


I thought Washington legalized for recreational use as well...


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07 Feb 2015, 7:34 pm

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Does Autism allow us to smoke medical Marijuana legally? any one know?



That is a BS reason to smoke pot, an insult to those with AS, and a slap in the face to those who have medical conditions such as cancer or glaucoma for which marijuana is one of the only things that provides relief from severely painful and disabling symptoms.


Have you ever tried it? it can help with more than physical problems there are studies coming out to back this up. I personally find it to reduce anxiety, lift my depressive moods to an extent reduce the pleasantries of sensory issues, helps my digestive discomfort as well as monthly cramps females get, and not entirely sure how to explain it in exact words but does seem to help with interactions with people.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:35 pm

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you guys are being squares, just smoke pot, ur already autistic or AS. smoking pots better then being autistic


Your opinion of what is better and what isn't and what applies for you may not apply to someone else... And you are just high and autistic if you smoke pot while autistic. It might reduce your anxiety or alter your senses in a way that is beneficial to you, but you will still be autistic.


Yes that is true, but it can make the autistic experience so much better.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:37 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
It smells so bad, it gives me a headache.


That's what I'm saying.


Maybe there's a pill that people can take instead of smoking it. That wouldn't bother me. Whenever I think about pot, I think about people I've known smoking joints that have that strong odor, so it's hard to imagine it in the form of a capsule.
I keep forgetting about that option.


There is a pharmacutical pill, but its not effective as real cannabis....the best way to ingest if not smoking is in some sort of liquid infusion, edibles or vaporizing which creates vapor but not smoke and does not smell strongly. Actually I think they can also make capsules out of cannabis oil which is activated somehow not sure the process but that is different than the marinol pill which is a pharmaceutical THC pill...but its theorized that THC alone is not the key in a lot of cases where it helps a condition so that particular pill has kind of a bad reputation in the marijuana community. There are other chemicals like CBD and plant alkaloids and what not that interact which is why different strains can have somewhat varying effects.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:45 pm

Angnix wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:

It is interesting that anti-psychotics are "OK" even though they have been shown to have serious, permanent side effects. But they are part of the big pharma money complex so why not?


What alternative is there to antipsychotics though? Without them, I would be locked away in a hospital somewhere.


Actually there is reseach about CBD a chemical in marijuana...it actually has anti-psychotic properties, so they have concluded in some cases of psychotic disorders it might be a viable alternative. Of course there are other factors for instance the THC does not act as an anti-psychotic in any sense so a high THC strain probably would not provide any real relief wheres a high CBD strain could. Of course I imagine like with any other drug it would not help some people, and others might experience unpleasant side effects....but in cases where it could be effective it would be a safer treatment than anti-psychotics.


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07 Feb 2015, 7:53 pm

Here is a good video about the current state of marijuana research and info. It's done by Dr. Sanjay Gupta and discusses CBD oil and strains high in CBD. I use the oil without THC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn9eTC1mNTk



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25 Apr 2015, 7:25 pm

Xeno wrote:
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Sounds more like the OP just wants a legal excuse to smoke weed without having to worry about getting arrested.


Don't be so quick to come to such a conclusion. Marijuana can be very beneficial to some people with mental disorders when used moderately. Strange how it's looked down upon so much more than legal antidepressants and antipsychotics that are potentially deadly.

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25 Apr 2015, 7:37 pm

In Florida, no, they don't have medical legalized yet, and weed isn't even decriminalized there. Which was very foreign feeling when I went for a visit with how it is in Maine.


I'm not sure which user it was, but the comment about the OP just wanting a BS reason to smoke I find to be a ridiculous conclusion.
I have medical marijuana for Gastroparesis, that being said, before my GP diagnosis I used MJ to help manage my anxiety and autism related symptoms. My psychiatric nurse practitioner was very happy when I was able to legally get my card (Mental/Emotional Health issues are not qualifying for a card in this state, except recently PTSD) because even she realized it pot helped me with all of my symptoms FAR better than any of the meds she's given me.


It's kept the amount of pharmaceuticals I need to take to the bare minimum and in regards to my gastroparesis I haven't had to take any of the few awful meds available and have retained my ability to eat solids most of the time.


I've had pharmaceuticals quite literally almost kill me, so I am all for people using MJ in a responsible manner.


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26 Apr 2015, 11:27 am

You guys, this thread is over 4 years old----NOT that it's not a relevant topic----it's just..... If you're quoting these people, to have a conversation with them, that may not happen. I just thought you'd wanna know.....












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