Homeopathic remedies for ADHD or BiPolar II

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15 Oct 2010, 4:39 am

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Homeopathy only really works in an ideal environment. Overweight on junk food and alcoholism makes any effectiveness difficult, until those basics are taken care of.

The fact that effective homeopathic treatment requires a caffeine free, alcohol free, junk food free lifestyle, means that its unavailable to you at present until you clean your own house.

Allopathic medicine or drug therapy, does not require the aspirant to modify their behaviour or oral activity.

AMAZING! !!

That a healthy lifestyle makes you feel better? Yes it is. Now imagine what happens if someone starts to live healthier and starts taking homeopathic remedies. They start to feel better because of the lifestyle change and attribute it to the homeopathy. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Are you seriously suggesting that doctors don't recommend that people life healthier lifestyles?



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15 Oct 2010, 6:37 am

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15 Oct 2010, 10:25 am

Homeopathy does nothing. You'd be just as well off giving him sugar pills and saying they're medicine, because that's what homeopathy is.



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15 Oct 2010, 10:37 am

OP, why don't you start a new topic, explain the situation again and just ask for solutions other than medication? I think your using the term "homeopathy" has simply gotten a lot of us scientific types annoyed, even if it's your sister and not you who's into it, and you're not getting any useful information out of this.


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15 Oct 2010, 10:45 am

Yes, I hope the OP doesn't think we are attacking them. I just wanted to counter some of the things people were saying about homeopathy. IOW I was attacking the claim that homeopathy works, not the Op themselves. Afterall, the OP asked what we thought about it.



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15 Oct 2010, 11:21 am

I think the OP may be confusing Homeopathy with herbal remedies and healthier eating habits. Homeopathy has little if not nothing to do with the latter two.

I would suggest that MommyJones read the Wikipedia article Calista posted, then repost the question in relation to herbal remedies and healthy eating, if she determines that Homeopathy is not really what she meant to be asking about.

At least it can be said that though herbal remedies may be scoffed at by some, most of them are actually what modern medicine is based on. Healthy eating, while there may be some debate as to what constitutes it, is pretty much agreed to be a good idea by almost everyone. Homeopathy though, is widely considered to be quackery for many apparently very good reasons, so use of the term is not surprisingly getting a lot of negative responses.


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15 Oct 2010, 11:44 am

Thumbs up to wrongplanet.net members for their logic regarding the homeopathic con.

The points made about the homeopathic load building in the recycled water systems etc are lol and not taking your meds will cause an overdose rofl.


The great thing about homeopathy is taking all of their junk science arguments and turning them around to the extreme.

Remember, in homeopath land, a crime is treated similarly.

For a negative response to homeopathy or a crime to be noticed, it must first be wanted to be noticed by the practioner.

They also love the animals trick........"always works on animals" but of course if the homeopath ignores that the animal might be dying using a "see, hear no evil approach then voila, only animals that "get better" will be recorded, hence no negatives.


Anyway, everyone's done a great job in this thread of kicking it, so I really don't need to add anything more.

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15 Oct 2010, 12:00 pm

Thumbs up to wrongplanet.net members for their logic regarding the homeopathic con.

The points made about the homeopathic load building in the recycled water systems etc are lol and not taking your meds will cause an overdose rofl.


The great thing about homeopathy is taking all of their junk science arguments and turning them around to the extreme.

Remember, in homeopath land, a crime is treated similarly.

For a negative response to homeopathy or a crime to be noticed, it must first be wanted to be noticed by the practioner.

They also love the animals trick........"always works on animals" but of course if the homeopath ignores that the animal might be dying using a "see, hear no evil approach then voila, only animals that "get better" will be recorded, hence no negatives.


Anyway, everyone's done a great job in this thread of kicking it, so I really don't need to add anything more.

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15 Oct 2010, 1:50 pm

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10 thousand years ago, the Europeans were running around naked and painting themselves blue.
In India people were already civilized and practicing homeopathy and other natural remedies.


Yes and no doubt, they believed in breathariasm as well..... lol
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15 Oct 2010, 2:38 pm

Well done everyone! Top job! Hoorah!



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15 Oct 2010, 2:59 pm

Surfman wrote:
Stonecold wrote:
waltur wrote:
homeopathy is not medicine.

True.


But, I'm sorry, your ...15 years old... are you just repeating things you hear? or have you researched and tried homoepathic medicine?

Do you have shares in Glaxo?


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wblastyn wrote:
Surfman wrote:
Homeopathy only really works in an ideal environment. Overweight on junk food and alcoholism makes any effectiveness difficult, until those basics are taken care of.

The fact that effective homeopathic treatment requires a caffeine free, alcohol free, junk food free lifestyle, means that its unavailable to you at present until you clean your own house.

Allopathic medicine or drug therapy, does not require the aspirant to modify their behaviour or oral activity.

AMAZING! !!

That a healthy lifestyle makes you feel better? Yes it is. Now imagine what happens if someone starts to live healthier and starts taking homeopathic remedies. They start to feel better because of the lifestyle change and attribute it to the homeopathy. Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Are you seriously suggesting that doctors don't recommend that people life healthier lifestyles?

I was about to say the same thing.


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15 Oct 2010, 3:53 pm

MommyJones wrote:
I am wondering if anyone has used homeopathic remedies for certain difficulties. I am primarily looking into things that may have helped with ADHD or BiPolar II disorders. My step son has one or the other, and he does not like medication. I was wondering if there was somthing homeopathic that has worked for you that may help him.

If there is something that you DON"T like, please let me know that too.


I was asking specifically about "homeopathic remedies" because my step son's mother said that she is into... quote: "Homeopathic Remedies"... unquote. If you look at the question it asks if anyone has used these remedies specifically. It does not express my beliefs or knowledge or interest regarding this issue in general, or any other approach I have looked at or have yet to discover that would be helpful for him. It was a very specific question that was intended to get very specific answers.

I appreciate, highly respect and value the opinions of the people on this website. If you tell me that this is a load of crap, then great..I believe you. It's a load of crap. It's not worth my time to pursue. This was the intention. If there is something "homeopathic" out there that would have helped, then maybe I can support this kids mother and encourage him to try it. It's obvious that there is nothing in that arena that anyone here can suggest that I look into.

As far as other things that he can do to help himself, since he just refuses to medicate, I can think of many things that he can do, and I have talked to him about things that I feel may help. I have a son with PDD-NOS that is a lot like him and have done a million things for him that has done wonders that is not medical or "homepathic" in nature. This is my approach, but not hers. I have to work through her. It sucks.

I appreciate all of you who gave me real answers and opinions. I just didn't realize that this is such a loaded question. I haven't seen anything on here regarding this subject and I just wasn't prepared for the passion and I'm glad this was on line..I may have gotten smacked :wink:



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15 Oct 2010, 4:04 pm

It's a shame that your stepson's mother thinks that homeopathy is a valid technique.
She probably believes in other woo as well.

He can read plenty online can't he, to understand and tell his mother that she is wrong....totally.
If he wants to.......



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15 Oct 2010, 4:19 pm

I have visited the shore near the irish sea so I have had a homopathic dose of plutonium, I have had a homopathic dose of cocaine today (from the spray from the sea) and I walked past an alcohol shop this evening (a homopathic dose of booze).

I am now neither drunk, high or messed up with radiation. Each time you go near the sea you get a homopathic dose of almost every radioisotope on earth, plus every drug that has ever been flushed down a toilet, plus every industrial waste which has been tipped into the sea.

Yet we do not get a super reaction to these homopathic doses of these substances, the homopathic 'doctors' maintain that the more dilute a drug the more active it is, so why is sea spray not a super deadly poison ?

Answer..... The core ideas behind homopathic medicine are deeply wrong.


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15 Oct 2010, 4:38 pm

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15 Oct 2010, 4:54 pm

What she says makes a lot of sense which I had already come round to, particularly the fact that I have not yet got involved in any drugs, bar citalopram and fluoxetine which did nothting for my low mood.
I also don't fancy polydrug therapy either but how do I handle my mental problems!! !! !! !

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