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FireMinstrel
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23 Oct 2010, 9:05 am

Nah- there'd just be a lot more posts in The Haven. :?



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23 Oct 2010, 9:07 am

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I said I doubt that a cure could make a full-blown autistic boy into a Nobel Prize winner.

That same boy could very well be a Nobel Prize winner.

The two are not mutually exclusive.



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23 Oct 2010, 9:12 am

Have there been full-blown autistics winning it? It'd be cool to hear a story like that.



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23 Oct 2010, 9:13 am

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Nah- there'd just be a lot more posts in The Haven. :?


I stay away from the Haven. It confuses me.

My brain is perfectly fine. Someone cure the NTs please.



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23 Oct 2010, 9:25 am

In my opinion they will never will be able to cure autism. They will be able to screen for it and eliminate the birth with abortion. What they need to do is work on is early detection of young children. They need to start schools where the high functioning autistic child could be socialized and allowed to develope their special intrests into marketable skills. Think of the advancements society would reap if autistics had more of a helpful push into the right direction instead of ridiculed or tormented by the NT children in normal schools.

If they did come up with a "magic pill" that an autistic person could take to be normal {boring} I would take it just so I could have a normal visit to a store, do well at a job interview, meet a woman and not have her think I am crazy, be able to work at a job and not be tormented by fellow employees for being different, to have the ability to touch people, and lastly to have the ability accept a compliment without disseceting why the person is being nice to me. If this pill would make me a different person than so be it maybe this new person will have a better life.


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23 Oct 2010, 9:27 am

adifferentname wrote:
My brain is perfectly fine. Someone cure the NTs please.


Can I quote this in my signature please?



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23 Oct 2010, 9:31 am

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adifferentname wrote:
My brain is perfectly fine. Someone cure the NTs please.


Can I quote this in my signature please?


I would never copyright my opinions, my irreverence or my musings on the WP forums. Besides, how could I stop you? :lol:



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23 Oct 2010, 9:33 am

FireMinstrel wrote:
Have there been full-blown autistics winning it? It'd be cool to hear a story like that.

Wouldn't know. But my point still stands.



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23 Oct 2010, 9:52 am

adifferentname wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
My brain is perfectly fine. Someone cure the NTs please.


Can I quote this in my signature please?


I would never copyright my opinions, my irreverence or my musings on the WP forums. Besides, how could I stop you? :lol:


Good point I guess, I just think it's nicer to ask permission :P



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23 Oct 2010, 10:27 am

Asp-Z wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
My brain is perfectly fine. Someone cure the NTs please.


Can I quote this in my signature please?


I would never copyright my opinions, my irreverence or my musings on the WP forums. Besides, how could I stop you? :lol:


Good point I guess, I just think it's nicer to ask permission :P


It wouldn't occur to me to be offended or upset if you hadn't, but I appreciate the intent behind you doing so. :)



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23 Oct 2010, 4:21 pm

If I took the cure, I will expect to be able to use the more socially-centered parts of my brain. And I will find socializing easier.



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25 Oct 2010, 1:58 pm

I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, aren't I? :(

(Oh, and Callista: I'm not focusing on you personally, just need to use an example.)

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How many times do I have to say this? There is no cure, there will never be a cure, and when you talk about one, you're talking about a thought experiment, not a real thing.

Oh REALLY?

Seriously, take a look at the book. It's awesome!
(ISBN-13: 978-3642147142 for anyone who can't view the Amazon preview.)

From the abstract:
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The target topics of the Human Behavior Understanding (HBU) Workshop reflect some of the old and new questions in this domain:
- Social behavior analysis & modeling, multimodal behavior patterns
...
- Facial, gestural and voice-based affect recognition
...
- Pattern discovery in personal sensor networks, reality mining
...
Research focuses now on more natural settings with uncontrolled conditions, real-time operation requirements and interaction dynamics. Furthermore, domain-specific semantic information is drawn into the picture as we move from generic techniques to specific applications.


In other words, the elimination of defining diagnostic criteria via neuroprosthetics, a.k.a. "the cure", is already under development.

I'm going to be working with this project for the next year (or two, or three...) until we have a functional application for social cognition assistance. I'm so giddy... my dream of working on the cure is actually happening right now.

And to anybody who's against this: once I have a working model in hand, let's restart this discussion. :D


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26 Oct 2010, 12:32 am

whats to cure?Image


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26 Oct 2010, 12:53 am

ninszot wrote:
If only we could cure the NT`s
imagin an end to bullying and that sociopathic need to stamp out difference

I have a dream . . .
that one day NT will not be considered the ideal end of the autism spectrum, where neurodiversity is celebrated for it`s unique difference, where difference is not inherantly wrong . . .

then again the last guy giving an I have a dream speach could have been ``cured`` (through plastic surgery) but if that was a solution we wouldn`t have black people.


I imagine there still would be bullying, even in an autistic population.

The Martin Luther King parallel is interesting.



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26 Oct 2010, 1:45 am

AdmiralCrunch wrote:
I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, aren't I? :(


Seriously, take a look at the book. It's awesome!
(ISBN-13: 978-3642147142 for anyone who can't view the Amazon preview.)

From the abstract:
Quote:
The target topics of the Human Behavior Understanding (HBU) Workshop reflect some of the old and new questions in this domain:
- Social behavior analysis & modeling, multimodal behavior patterns
...
- Facial, gestural and voice-based affect recognition
...
- Pattern discovery in personal sensor networks, reality mining
...
Research focuses now on more natural settings with uncontrolled conditions, real-time operation requirements and interaction dynamics. Furthermore, domain-specific semantic information is drawn into the picture as we move from generic techniques to specific applications.


In other words, the elimination of defining diagnostic criteria via neuroprosthetics, a.k.a. "the cure", is already under development.

I'm going to be working with this project for the next year (or two, or three...) until we have a functional application for social cognition assistance. I'm so giddy... my dream of working on the cure is actually happening right now.

And to anybody who's against this: once I have a working model in hand, let's restart this discussion. :D

So this is still theoretical? I was under the impression prosthetics can only modify preexisting neural pathways not create entirely new ones. Maybe I misunderstood what you wrote.



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27 Oct 2010, 9:09 am

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How many times do I have to say this? There is no cure, there will never be a cure, and when you talk about one, you're talking about a thought experiment, not a real thing.


You never know, someone could create a cure one day. They're creating a cure for Alzheimer's right now, and they're now saying it's possible, so who knows - there can be some possibility for Autism to be cured some day.

I believe in it. I believe someone who is very intelligent on here will find a cure. There's always a first time.


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