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13 Feb 2009, 4:40 pm

Sounds like the doctor has never heard of AS?

It's good to go to a doctor who specializes in it or has experience in it and knows a lot about it.



Before my my AS diagnoses I had all these labels:

Behavior problems
poor social skills and innaproppiate behavior
Cluttering
ADD
Sensory integration dysfunction
Dyspraxia
OCD
Language Processing Disorder
And I found "learning disability" being written in my IEP from when I was in third grade saying I had it severely. I don't think it's severe.
Autistic characteristics
Possible ADHD
Multiple handicapped



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13 Feb 2009, 4:43 pm

F5c_wZ3_414e_X5 wrote:
You go to the doctor. You tell him/her all about yourself, all your aspie traits, sure you don't use the word "aspergers". He/she examines you. And he/she says:
- You have mild form of depression/anxiety/psychological problems (something that can be cured or smth that you can overcome, and isn't a part of you).


I have the feeling doctors diagnose people with "depression" when they don´t really know what else to say. It´s one of those vague things that almost everyone seems to have. Sort of like when I was diagnosed with "irritable bowel syndrome"; they didn´t quite figure out what it was, so they put it under some kind of a general heading. Luckily, I self-diagnosed myself with celiac disease just in time, before I died from it. We know more about ourselves than anyone else does; trust your instincts.

If you decide to see another doctor, why don´t you mention the idea of AS yourself? Write out all the reasons why you have the feeling you have it. Sometimes, a doctor might need a push in the right direction. (Assuming that story was about you?)

I related a lot to the story; including the crying when I first found out about it, my experience on Wrong Planet, right up to probably how I would feel if someone told me I didn´t have it. But, that´s not going to be likely...I don´t have the money for an evaluation, at least not now.


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13 Feb 2009, 6:03 pm

Morgana wrote:
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I have the feeling doctors diagnose people with "depression" when they don´t really know what else to say. It´s one of those vague things that almost everyone seems to have.


It's the same in my country too.
Lots of women are diagnosed with depression, but I can't help but wonder...



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13 Feb 2009, 6:13 pm

I would feel that regardless of expertise, people can get it wrong and would get a 2nd and 3rd opinion. I would not tell the others about the dx the first person gave me at all. Psychology is not like math, there isn't always an exact answer. You can take information and try to plug it into the DSM-IV criteria but the ultimate dx is still in the hands of the examiner/psychologist/physician, so there is a certain amount of interpretation. Since no two people on the spectrum are alike, it can be difficult to dx especially certain adults who have learned and applied during the meeting some of the social skills that are expected in the particular society in which they live (i.e., proximity to another person, amount of eye contact, etc.). Psychs and doctors are not all knowing. I can almost guarantee that if you were to go to two other specialists, you would not get the same host of diagnosis as you did with this person. If you did, I would be extremely surprised.



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14 Feb 2009, 1:54 pm

Something similar happened to me. I've come to veiw it like this:

1. Diagnosis of mental conditions is a bit odd. Problems like that don't fit into nice little sets of diagnostic criteria in reality.
2. I think of myself as having Asperger's traits, rather than Asperger's syndrome now. I've decided that my social skills are okay, so I'm not a proper Aspie, but because Asperger's explains so many things about me, it would be silly to say I don't have traits of it.
3. Asperger's isn't curable. Many people know very little about it (some doctors included!). Aspies can be very different and have very different diffuculties. Is a diagnosis that important?
4. Psychological problems like anxiety are curable, or at least treatable. I need to recover from my anxiety and other psychological problems. They make my Aspieness worse. When I'm better, I'll still be Aspie-ish, but I won't feel like it's so awful.

I don't know if that helps you at all. I don't know how similar/different your situation is.



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14 Feb 2009, 3:01 pm

F5c_wZ3_414e_X5 wrote:
You go to the doctor. You tell him/her all about yourself, all your aspie traits, sure you don't use the word "aspergers". He/she examines you. And he/she says:
- You have mild form of depression/anxiety/psychological problems (something that can be cured or smth that you can overcome, and isn't a part of you).
And doctor doesn't mention Aspergers.
Thats all.
You're not an aspie anymore. And your obsessions doesn't make sense anymore.

How would you feel? What would you think? What would you do?


Exactly what i get from my consultant psychologist. I just feel that the diagnosis confuses me more and more. Should i trust myself because that i know myself better than anyone else or the doctor because he is an expert???? I dont know whether that the doctor is wrong or me.



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14 Feb 2009, 4:50 pm

pettunia wrote:

Exactly what i get from my consultant psychologist. I just feel that the diagnosis confuses me more and more. Should i trust myself because that i know myself better than anyone else or the doctor because he is an expert???? I dont know whether that the doctor is wrong or me.


I would go with the "you know yourself better than anyone else" theory. When doctors diagnose things like AS, all they can do is look at external signs. Whereas, I think of AS as being largely internal. Most doctors don´t really understand what AS is all about- not having experienced it themselves...I think it´s kind of a crapshoot. Tony Attwood himself said that a diagnosis is basically just the opinion of the doctor.

Well...in terms of medical stuff, I´ve been misdiagnosed many, many times, which means I don´t automatically trust the opinion of a doctor. Maybe I am biased, based on my experiences.


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14 Feb 2009, 5:29 pm

At first I'd be sad, but I'd go to another doctor or psychologist as the first one may not be right.


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14 Feb 2009, 8:30 pm

The first diagnosis I received was from a psychiatrist who said I suffer from moderate-to-severe depression. When I asked about Asperger's, he admitted he didn't know much about Asperger's. In his defense, many psychologists are taught little about Asperger's, which is why it's best to get diagnosed by a specialist.


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15 Feb 2009, 1:17 pm

F5c_wZ3_414e_X5 wrote:
Imagine it.
One day you find an article about Asperger's in a newspaper/magazine/internet.
You read it and you are surprised, because it is all about you.
You search for more information on Internet, and it almost all fits you.
You become obsessed with Asperger's.
You go to wrongplanet, and read the topics. There are questions, that you have been trying to answer all your life. And most people here tell about themselves, and this is EXACTLY how you feel.
You were never able to fin in, anywhere. And you think, you FINALLY found people like you.
You think you're an aspie. But you don't have a diagnosis. You can't be sure, if you are or not. If you're not an aspie, that means that you're alone in the world, and you can't fit in anywhere. This thought bothers you, you have to find out if you're an aspie or not.
You go to the doctor. You tell him/her all about yourself, all your aspie traits, sure you don't use the word "aspergers". He/she examines you. And he/she says:
- You have mild form of depression/anxiety/psychological problems (something that can be cured or smth that you can overcome, and isn't a part of you).
And doctor doesn't mention Aspergers.
Thats all.
You're not an aspie anymore. And your obsessions doesn't make sense anymore.

How would you feel? What would you think? What would you do?


This is what I'm worried about. The entire post describes me up until the doctor part because I've not really been able to approach anyone with this idea yet. I did see someone briefly Friday and she didn't think I have it, but she also admitted to knowing very little about it.



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15 Feb 2009, 1:40 pm

I would have brought up Asperger's myself at the office.



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15 Feb 2009, 11:19 pm

F5c_wZ3_414e_X5 wrote:
Imagine it.
One day you find an article about Asperger's in a newspaper/magazine/internet.
You read it and you are surprised, because it is all about you.
You search for more information on Internet, and it almost all fits you.
You become obsessed with Asperger's.
You go to wrongplanet, and read the topics. There are questions, that you have been trying to answer all your life. And most people here tell about themselves, and this is EXACTLY how you feel.
You were never able to fin in, anywhere. And you think, you FINALLY found people like you.
You think you're an aspie. But you don't have a diagnosis. You can't be sure, if you are or not. If you're not an aspie, that means that you're alone in the world, and you can't fit in anywhere. This thought bothers you, you have to find out if you're an aspie or not.
You go to the doctor. You tell him/her all about yourself, all your aspie traits, sure you don't use the word "aspergers". He/she examines you. And he/she says:
- You have mild form of depression/anxiety/psychological problems (something that can be cured or smth that you can overcome, and isn't a part of you).
And doctor doesn't mention Aspergers.
Thats all.
You're not an aspie anymore. And your obsessions doesn't make sense anymore.

How would you feel? What would you think? What would you do?


All that applies pretty well to me. The only part I disagree with is my concluding that I can't possibly be an aspie on the basis that my doctor didn't diagnose it. No, I wouldn't give up so easily. I would need a professional un-diagnosis from a neuropsychologist; only then I would believe that I can't possibly be an aspie.



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15 Feb 2009, 11:37 pm

I still have lingering doubts about my "assessment". This could still happen to me...I just don't have the money to pursue a "real" diagnosis. It could be that um...howyousay..the specialist who assessed me was just an enthusiastic sort who thinks everyone is an aspie.

Flakey was just saying to me today, based on a little reading he had been doing, and compared to the other Spectrumy people who hang around at our place that he thinks I am more of a PDD-NOS person than an Aspie...even though he is no expert, and certainly not a doctor.
He has said this forever...that there is definitely something "wrong" with me, but he does not think I am an Aspie.... :?

I had to argue with him about how it runs in my family, and how women present it differently than men and blah blah blah....



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16 Feb 2009, 12:40 am

I know of a lady who was young/her mom was taking her to a guy in their neighborhood (in the late 50's). It was always dirty but they called him Doc. She had a skin problem with rashes on her legs so his fix to help was to poor turpentine into a tub with water and scrape the rashes open and make her soak in the stuff. Apparently he wasn't a doctor, but he would always sing a song about "all the kids will always say, old doc (name here) went to hell"...


Second opinions are nice.



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16 Feb 2009, 1:38 am

Actually, why sometimes a psychologist with PsyD and many more qualifications don't really know about AS?



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16 Feb 2009, 8:28 am

I'm sure it'd bother me as I'm always right (I don't understand how someone could be wrong about such). :) I'd then argue with said professional and clinically diagnose myself in front of him, to point out his error and lack of expertise (again, I'm always right).

The only other that would remotely fit me is...Schizophrenia of an unusually rare age of onset (infancy), and I'd actually rather that than [my] Autism. But eh, we don't get to choose these things.