Autism will bankrupt you.

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Hmmm...

When we socialize over a sense of feeling out of place (or as the case may be, some of us are socializing over being anti-social), we feel a connection with other people that is largely based on facets of ourselves that we consider negative. Or, if we ourselves do not consider negative, we are wrestling with the fact that we can enjoy ourselves and be well rounded people even if others view aspects of our behavior to be negative.



I think we do this because we are making ourselves out to be similar to one another and to reach some understanding in areas that may not be considered polite small talk in the face-to-face world. I wonder how effective this is. Every time I connect with another person over some trait that we are both confused about, I have a positive feeling, even if it is not a positive connection, meaning a connection that I really learned anything from other than making me feel my humanness.

I did not understand until I found the descriptions of autism that I myself did not really care about connecting with other people. When I realized folks did this all the time, I figured out that it was a fundamental human need, and only then did I feel I was lacking something. As an autistic (with or without the label) I am detached from my complex human needs. I also forget to eat, but now I am digressing from the topic. This seems a paradox here but I am having trouble making it universal and getting it away from myself.

In the context of autism as a mind virus, I would say it is easy to believe what others tell you as an alternative to creating your own story and self image in the face of so much conflicting information. If I reject the labels that I feel I relate to, I am leaving myself vulnerable for others to label me as words that may or may not fit me.

did autism speaks actualy say autism will bankrupt you for its own self serving gain.i had never heard that

You keep changing the focus of the conversation. First you talk about autism and aspie as labels then you switch to offline services and then to online communities. I can't follow a line of reasoning here. What is it you are trying to say?

It is comparing online socialization to offline. I am studying generalities to understand possibilities beyond basic generalization and provoking relevant conversation to derive this.

What is easily known is a social desire and common fitting in behavior with autism as a concept based on traits in criterion. This is for a sociology paper to be published. Feel free to be open and honest.

ROTFLMAO! I thought it was just me yesterday and now this too. I am really trying to figure out a point but the context switching stuff KILLS me. (not an excuse. A fact.)

Dude. I know! i have autism and i'm always broke,

From one frame of mind to the other, from one thought to another a dynamic from one to the other exists to create potential explanation for the manifestations. It is the very little things that are subjective to the individual reality and the generalities in these frameworks which can create common trends of behaviors to predict individual behavior and or understand the group dynamics. Being resistant to understanding this sort of thing is expected but not said as common.

Similar to sociology is psychosocial pathology. Hence the virus of the mind for concepts within functional group dynamics. The Aspie concept has reason to it.Why this concept manifest individually and within the group and how it effects the psyche in relation to the world around group participants.

I don't see a contextual problem here.

Openly and honestly? The exposition of your ideas is nearly unintelligible.This sentence:



has such an atypical grammatical structure that I can't decide of you are simply trying to overwhelm with vocabulary or truly trying to communicate something.

You are studying generalities ...OK. Generalities about what? Autistic services? Online communities? Usage of labels and jargon? To say simply "studying generalities" is so broad as to communicate nothing. It's like you're saying I'm studying everything to learn something.

You want to understand possibilities beyond basic generalities. OK. Studying generalities allows this in what way? Possibilities for what? Further generalities? Better online communities? Better labels?

Provoking relevant conversation? I think conversation is being provoked, but getting a fix on what is relevant is a real challenge.

I'm wondering if the details of the abstractions within your own idea space are not amenable to concise verbalization. It feels like what ever is that you MEAN when you use single sentence actually requires an entire paragraph of explanation.

It is common for others to pick at my grammar I don't take it personally. Generalities can lead to more specifics. I cannot really explain anymore at this time. I encourage you to interact with the initial subject outline.

I find that PHD and master level folks in the psychological related fields have no problem understanding and interacting with me in what I say. Perhaps my world revolves around these frameworks and I am stuck in these thoughts? Anyways please participate.

Nathan Young

You cannot expect those without a PHD or Masters level background in psychology to have the same complement of vocabulary. You might do better to perform a bit of translation into terms more likely to be understood by those with other backgrounds.

Are you published in any academic journals?

What I write is reviewed by professionals, discussed and I publish my opinion online. It is then watered down to more basic terminologies as I have studied enough to understand the professionals way of thinking in essential forms. It is similar to other sociologically relevant works by people with autism. A person with autism does not need to be a medical professional to participate in the public discourse within their own community and the at large society.

The intent is to create mutual understanding between different groups of people. I try my best. Yet there is seldom an absolute but trends do matter a great deal. You understand now?

No.

I guess I'm too stupid or too autistic.

Or both.

No you are not dumb please don't think that.

I guess I am too because I cannot understand ci hardly at all and I work with PhDs more than not all day long. And I swear I am not making excuses... Your writing and thinking is not intelligible to me. That is why I asked you yesterday if you actually had ASD in some form. Most autistic people lack the ability to make large leaps or abstract.

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I don't have any problems in person with articulating to appropriate professionals, sorry. Though I don't use as many words as I do not form them fast. Sometimes saying one does not understand is the refusal to try to understand for reasons of bias. I will continue to try and get others to understand by studying patterns of interpretation within preexisting sociologically relevant frameworks within the autism community.

My ASD is manifest in my general behavior but no one with ASD is a clone of one another. I have extreme abstract abilities as well. Which I am told is rare for autism.