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16 Feb 2011, 3:37 pm

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I wouldn't say I'm perfect, although I'm perfectly happy with how I currently am. :wink: Why read? Because I love learning. :)


I have flaws and for that I'm perfect.



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17 Feb 2011, 9:30 am

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I think y'all are running this through some funky cognitive filters here, guys.

In no way is it saying introverts are twits, or be an extrovert or NT.

Let me break down what it says simply.

1. We all can use at least a little socialisation.

2. Never returning phone calls is a bad idea.

3. Plunging straight into conversations of depth is often not the best idea. Most people do need a little social lubrication.

4. Don't monologue.

5. There's a difference between introversion and avoidance.

6. Some introverts don't mind parties or don't think they are a total waste of time. Don't dismiss what extroverts like out of hand.

Tada!


Sorry I disagree. This article is very patronizing to introverts. The whole tone of the article is just wrong.



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17 Feb 2011, 9:58 am

Moog wrote:

1. We all can use at least a little socialisation.

2. Never returning phone calls is a bad idea.

3. Plunging straight into conversations of depth is often not the best idea. Most people do need a little social lubrication.

4. Don't monologue.

5. There's a difference between introversion and avoidance.

6. Some introverts don't mind parties or don't think they are a total waste of time. Don't dismiss what extroverts like out of hand.

Tada!


Thanks Moog. That's much better than the original version.



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17 Feb 2011, 11:47 am

Wow, I do all of those things...


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17 Feb 2011, 1:33 pm

jackbus01 wrote:
Moog wrote:
I think y'all are running this through some funky cognitive filters here, guys.

In no way is it saying introverts are twits, or be an extrovert or NT.

Let me break down what it says simply.

1. We all can use at least a little socialisation.

2. Never returning phone calls is a bad idea.

3. Plunging straight into conversations of depth is often not the best idea. Most people do need a little social lubrication.

4. Don't monologue.

5. There's a difference between introversion and avoidance.

6. Some introverts don't mind parties or don't think they are a total waste of time. Don't dismiss what extroverts like out of hand.

Tada!


Sorry I disagree. This article is very patronizing to introverts. The whole tone of the article is just wrong.


In what way? Someone needs to point out what is so patronizing, so I can feel properly patronized. I don't feel patronized.


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17 Feb 2011, 9:29 pm

I didn't feel patronized and I'm all of those things. And while I like my introversion and am perfectly happy this way, my career has suffered profoundly from it. The writer just prefers extroversion, IMO. No big deal to me.



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17 Feb 2011, 11:39 pm

A short post, because I don't have time to address the article in-depth right now.

1. I'm guilty of most of those things. Caveats will follow later if I remember.

2. Where are all the articles called "Mistakes extroverts make" or "How to go back into your shell and stop annoying everyone"?


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18 Feb 2011, 12:01 am

"If you're looking for friends, remember that insta-friendships are rare, and rushing the conversation isn't a shortcut. Friendships build incrementally, and they start with small talk"


small talk... oh crap. im doomed. :cry: :evil:



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18 Feb 2011, 1:59 am

Dantac wrote:
"If you're looking for friends, remember that insta-friendships are rare, and rushing the conversation isn't a shortcut. Friendships build incrementally, and they start with small talk"


small talk... oh crap. im doomed. :cry: :evil:


Ditto :?


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18 Feb 2011, 5:44 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
A short post, because I don't have time to address the article in-depth right now.

1. I'm guilty of most of those things. Caveats will follow later if I remember.

2. Where are all the articles called "Mistakes extroverts make" or "How to go back into your shell and stop annoying everyone"?


I found an article called the downside of extraversion. It's in a directory called 'childhood disorders'. ;-)

http://www.medicineweb.com/mental-healt ... roversion/

You have to look hard for criticism of extraversion :lol: The world prefers extroverts, we all know that, don't we? That doesn't mean introversion is bad. Introverts are great. I know because I am one. It's just that socialisation is still incredibly important to most humans.


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18 Feb 2011, 6:16 am

Moog wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Where are all the articles called "Mistakes extroverts make" or "How to go back into your shell and stop annoying everyone"?


I found an article called the downside of extraversion. It's in a directory called 'childhood disorders'. ;-)

http://www.medicineweb.com/mental-healt ... roversion/

You have to look hard for criticism of extraversion :lol: The world prefers extroverts, we all know that, don't we? That doesn't mean introversion is bad. Introverts are great. I know because I am one. It's just that socialisation is still incredibly important to most humans.

I just found this too:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Fy9g ... version%22

They've torn out some of the pages to make you buy the whole book, but it's still quite informative. I see that many of the negative aspects of E are the very things I've been saying about mainstreamers for years, and if anybody started running down Aspies, I'd turn to those ideas to defend us.



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18 Feb 2011, 7:23 am

Dantac wrote:
"If you're looking for friends, remember that insta-friendships are rare, and rushing the conversation isn't a shortcut. Friendships build incrementally, and they start with small talk"


small talk... oh crap. im doomed. :cry: :evil:


I seriously had no idea this was the case. Holy moly.