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17 Mar 2011, 4:21 pm

It is high time the demonization of weed is called out and disproven once and for all. (Is it just me or does anyone else always put obvious puns in obvoius places?) Marijuana has too many active priniciples and has proven beneficial effects for some many disorders, research is not only warranted, it is criminal that it is being withheld.

Not every medication is effective for all people. Personally, pot does nothing positive for me and I abstain. But I have seen it work wonders for cancer patients, people with anxiety disorders and, in one case, bipolar. Many on the specturm also feel it has benefits. Considering the possibly benefits far outweigh the possible side effects, more power to them.

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17 Mar 2011, 4:23 pm

Cannabis will make some things like reading people possibly harder, but for anxiety its a winner.

Cannabis tinctures were the #1 medicine! not so long a go!

The problem today is smoking can never truly be linked with medical marijuana. Once you have used cannabis sublingually, and stopped smoking, could an argument for medpot be validated. A good vapouriser on low temp is probably not harmful.

As I've mentioned before, the cannabis club I attend has quite a few autistics. Socialising with other cannabis users seems easy for them, both parties are considerably de stressed after imbibing THC, so oh hey your an aspie? cool

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17 Mar 2011, 10:04 pm

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I think this is worse than spam... it is pure BS.

I came from a 1960s/1970s culture where it was rare to find anyone who did not partake, and although I find it much easier to list the substances I did NOT try at least once back in those days than to list those that I DID use, I actually never did like the cannabis based substances at all. It forced me too deeply into my shell (back when I had no idea that I was an Aspie and that this was the reason why) when I wanted so desperately to be able to relate to people better. My favorites were the psychedelics and especially the great number 25.

This so called medical report looks more to me like an effort to gain recognition by some fly-by-night group who want some way to further their agenda. It reminds me of a meeting that was arranged one time back in the Spring of 1972 between my crowd of friends (about a dozen of us) and a representative of NORML. That guy was so full of BS that every last one of us found some excuse to step out one by one and go someplace else, eventually leaving the poor guy from NORML sitting there alone.

Cool story bro

Its all true. PM me and I will tell you about the more outlandish parts that I left out... my dad would roll over in his grave if he knew that I...

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17 Mar 2011, 10:06 pm

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Why does its say families? Why would they use children for this?

Because us adults can look after ourselves, a lot of american parents of autistic kids don't want to be thrown in jail or have their kids taken away so the study is to try to begin to show that cannabis is not only safe for kids but safe for autistic kids.

~with marijuana your baby is fine~

I don't understand your statement in this context, are they using children or not. Are you supporting experiments on children?

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17 Mar 2011, 10:37 pm

It relaxed me enough to be social when I was a teen and in my early 20's. All the pictures of me from that time period the ones where I was smiling in were the ones where I was stoned. I did not feel like something bad was going to happen. I also did not think that someone was being nice to me to set me up.

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18 Mar 2011, 2:06 am

ikorack wrote:

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Why does its say families? Why would they use children for this?

MEANS Cannabis is non-toxic to children.

I don't understand your statement in this context, are they using children or not. Are you supporting experiments on children?

Not at all, I believe that children should be given untested medicine or none at all. *sarcasm)

How else are you supposed to tell whether or not something is safe for kids if you don't give it to kids?

http://stash.norml.org/marijuana-consum ... udy-needed

Cannabis PREVENTS infant mortality.

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18 Mar 2011, 2:34 am

There are people who understand how children develop they can study the chemical effects on people and make a logical guess about how it will effect children. Using children as experimental lab rats is not justified.

your link is clearly from a politically biased/motivated site btw. Also the study's data they are using isn't available to the public, so I have no reason to take the authors words as facts, In addition the effects of cannabis(indirectly) on a fetus are not necessarily the same as cannabis(directly) on a developing child.

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18 Mar 2011, 6:54 am

Here is the original study, it says the same even though it is written by a pro-children organisation.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... type=HWCIT

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18 Mar 2011, 7:06 am

CannabisForAutism wrote:

Here is the original study, it says the same even though it is written by a pro-children organisation.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/c ... type=HWCIT

It still does not justify further experimentation on children. It also doesn't specify whether or not weight change exists for the cannabis category on its own, only the drug positive category. So while it might be supplied of evidence for a lessening of mortality rate it does not study any other affects cannabis might have on the infants, which is to say this study does not back up your claim that cannabis is 'baby safe' and it doesn't justify or excuse any use of children in any experiments involving illegal drugs.

EDIT: That article also fails to provide the raw data.

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18 Mar 2011, 8:16 am

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/re ... d=61064948

What he said!

You should contact Dr Leicester Grinspoon if you have any concerns about cannabis and paediatric safety

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18 Mar 2011, 8:50 am

ikorack wrote:

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Codeine is approved for use in children even though its active ingredients are dirived from the same source as heroin. Opium latex has long been known to be addictive and fatal in overdose yet the American medical institution, at some point, approved testing in children for this substance because its possible pain relieving benefits were thought to outweigh the possible negative consequences.

Cannabis is subject to fear, bias and intimidation without medical proof that it is a dangerous substance. It's time to approach it rationally, logically and without political bias. Politics is the only thing that has hindered research, not a lack of evidence or interest from the scientific community.

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18 Mar 2011, 9:37 am

I have not suggested anything that would hamper research to any meaningful degree.

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18 Mar 2011, 10:49 am

okay... so how do they explore the use of cannabis for children without including children in the process?

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18 Mar 2011, 10:58 am

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okay... so how do they explore the use of cannabis for children without including children in the process?

Cannibis is perhaps the wrong word. This invokes images of bong parties. The psychoactive ingredients in cannabis, extracted, purified to exacting standards, fully documented and researched in rigorous fashion is no less ethical than any other drug trial for children. But anecdotal driven herbalism is fraught with much more potential for harm.

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18 Mar 2011, 11:51 am

wavefreak58 wrote:

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okay... so how do they explore the use of cannabis for children without including children in the process?

What is Sativex? What is Marinol? What was in all those cannabis medicines years ago?

The whole plant has been extensively tested for safety in children.

The psychoactive extract THC is known to have more side effects on it's own than the whole plant, that's why companies like GW Pharma and CBIS are interested in the whole plant synergy.

Cannabis is SAFE FOR ALL AGES, if you don't believe that, look harder

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18 Mar 2011, 12:13 pm

CannabisForAutism wrote:

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draelynn wrote:

okay... so how do they explore the use of cannabis for children without including children in the process?

Why so tense?

Even if what you say is true, the perception is miles away. What I was pointing out is that perception, not any particular reality. If the word cannabis overwhelming invokes images of pot heads, then you have a problem. Doesn't matter who made Sativex or how it was derived. For that matter, why did they name it Sativex? Maybe because calling it "purified marijuana by products" has a negative image? You can't see that putting the words "cannabis" and "testing children" in the same sentence just MIGHT be interpreted wrong? Whereas the words "clinical trials" might have a different effect?

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