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26 Mar 2011, 10:07 pm

I make jokes all the time. I do word play and I seem to be funny naturally. I also seem to keep doing humor without even thinking about it. I also do sarcasm. I have even gotten better at picking up on it, even online. In fact it amazes me when people off the spectrum missed it but I picked up on it. I then think they aren't very smart because an aspie picked up on it but these people didn't. What's wrong with the picture? If they were on the spectrum too, I would think I was NT enough to pick up on it and they weren't. But if they aren't on the spectrum, I think of them as foolish because they should have known since I knew.

I am one of those aspies who have a hard time with idioms but I can learn them and learn what they mean. Sometimes I can pick up what it means without having to look it up or be told what it meant.

I was more literal as a child and in my teens and by high school I wasn't as literal as I was in middle school. I couldn't even take a joke either nor sarcasm when I was a child. I didn't even understand what a joke was. To me "joke" was a word but I couldn't understand what it meant. I saw kids would do something and they would say they are joking and I still didn't understand. I eventually learned it's something you say when someone gets mad at what you are doing. That's what I thought then. I started hearing jokes when I was eight but I still didn't understand the humor because I didn't know it was supposed to be funny. To me it was when you ask a question and make up an answer or when you just tell a story because that's what it looked like to me. It took me a while to understand that's not how it works and it has to make sense and there are rules. It's word play for one so that's what makes it funny.



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26 Mar 2011, 10:36 pm

With me I found that usually I get the joke, but I still act like it was serious. Don't know why I do that, maybe I just don't understand how people are expected to react to the joke. :( :P



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26 Mar 2011, 11:19 pm

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When someone says it's raining cats and dogs, I visualize cats and dogs falling from the sky. Then I remember what it actually means. I have that delay with most idioms. I have a sense of humor and can pull off witty. It seems to me that a lot of autistic people have a sense of humor. The sometimes annoying part is taking someone else's jokes literally and thus missing them. I don't know how many times someone complained that I needed a joke explained, thus "ruining it."


sometimes the deconstruction [autistic or not] of a joke will be the funniest thing about it.



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26 Mar 2011, 11:31 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
When someone says it's raining cats and dogs, I visualize cats and dogs falling from the sky. Then I remember what it actually means. I have that delay with most idioms. I have a sense of humor and can pull off witty. It seems to me that a lot of autistic people have a sense of humor. The sometimes annoying part is taking someone else's jokes literally and thus missing them. I don't know how many times someone complained that I needed a joke explained, thus "ruining it."


sometimes the deconstruction [autistic or not] of a joke will be the funniest thing about it.


I completely agree with this, but some people are all shirty about it.



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27 Mar 2011, 12:07 am

Verdandi wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
When someone says it's raining cats and dogs, I visualize cats and dogs falling from the sky. Then I remember what it actually means. I have that delay with most idioms. I have a sense of humor and can pull off witty. It seems to me that a lot of autistic people have a sense of humor. The sometimes annoying part is taking someone else's jokes literally and thus missing them. I don't know how many times someone complained that I needed a joke explained, thus "ruining it."


sometimes the deconstruction [autistic or not] of a joke will be the funniest thing about it.


I completely agree with this, but some people are all shirty about it.


I totally agree as well. I really can't stand when people say explaining a joke ruins it. When I finally understand a joke, it's just as funny as it would have been if I immediately understood it. One of the wonderful things with one of my autistic friends, who otherwise can be a lot different from me cognitively, but... basically both of us explain jokes to each other all the time, and we laugh hysterically just the same as if we hadn't needed them explained, and nobody is around to tell us that it "kills the joke" or some other crap. I find that sometimes the people who say it "kills the joke"... it seems like some of them may be saying it because they don't know how to explain, but others... it feels almost as if they feel superior for getting the joke right away. Hard to describe but I think I'm perceiving something real there.


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27 Mar 2011, 1:19 am

How does explaining a joke ruin it?



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27 Mar 2011, 1:22 am

anbuend wrote:
I find that sometimes the people who say it "kills the joke"... it seems like some of them may be saying it because they don't know how to explain, but others... it feels almost as if they feel superior for getting the joke right away. Hard to describe but I think I'm perceiving something real there.


that is more or less what is going on, beneath the radar. some folk spend so much mental energy thinking of ways to feel superior to other people, that they lose their humanity somewhere along the way.



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27 Mar 2011, 1:23 am

anbuend wrote:
it feels almost as if they feel superior for getting the joke right away. Hard to describe but I think I'm perceiving something real there.


Yeah, there might be something there, at that. Especially when they make a big deal about how it just totally ruined the joke to explain it, even though the joke remains funny.

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How does explaining a joke ruin it?


I do not know. I guess it only counts if you process it in your head rather than have someone explain it for you? Ridiculous, I think.



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27 Mar 2011, 2:51 am

I would say that I have a fairly normal sense of humor. I can understand most jokes, although sometimes it takes me a bit longer than most people. Although one thing I am good at is making people laugh. Not with jokes, but by doing stupid things unintentionally. Other times people think I'm funny when I try to imitate them. I've become good at that, but I do still struggle with verbal humor a bit.



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27 Mar 2011, 7:50 am

wefunction wrote:
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Laz wrote:
Rule of thumb

Anything written about aspergers or autism. Presume BS until proven otherwise

Laz' first law? :) me like..

is it Laz' or Laz's? :lol:


I think a new phrase has been coined:

Laz's First Law of Autism:

"With anything written about Aspergers or Autism, presume is BS until proven otherwise."

:D

Thanks for translating 'BS', I was dying over that... :wink: :lol:



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27 Mar 2011, 8:45 am

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Of course I can do humor. Getting humor drunk first is the tricky part.


I didn't realize that was humour the first time I read it. Now that I revisited this topic I got it. I thought you meant something along the lines of you having to get drunk to be humorous :lol:

do = cheat ?



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27 Mar 2011, 2:25 pm

My dad, a fellow aspie, pointed out to me how a joke on tv worked, the timing, the play on words, and how they interacted and connected.

I'm a wee bit irish and my dad tells me...we like limerics and rhyme,,,,aspies do to

I just dont like humor that is hurtful, rude, or mean,..
Ohhh I get your joke, na,.....but.thats not funny


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27 Mar 2011, 7:21 pm

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I'm a sarcastic bastard. I hate sarcasm but I use it by reflex. Some of my humour everyone gets but some of it just offends people. For example my brothers girlfriend asked me why I'm so obsessed with those forensics shows so I told her "I'm planning on becoming a serial killing rapist so I need to educate myself on how the forensics detectives investigate the crime scenes".


For the record, that was funny. It's exactly the kind of thing I would have said.


I always figured if they didn't get my humor, they were stupid... now I'm starting to think I'm not as funny as I thought I was. :) But I usually pick up on sarcasm, unless it's a stranger, and I can be witty.


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27 Mar 2011, 8:07 pm

I think certain aspies make great comics... nobody can do the deadpan delivery like an aspie.



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27 Mar 2011, 8:15 pm

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Sarcasm is 50/50 with me. If the tone of voice changes, I know it's sarcasm, but people at work wont change their voice tone, and thus it goes over my head, I just have a blank look on my face trying to decipher if they where joking or not.


That's the same thing I do. I'm sensitive to the intonation in people's voice, so I learned to tell when someone is joking, being sarcastic, or just plain lying. I may have developed that skill from playing piano all my life, or maybe I was born with naturally heightened auditory perception. I'm not sure which came first, but I'm glad I don't have that problem.


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