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http://www.happycow.net/famous_vegetarians.html

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." —Albert Einstein

FAMOUS VEGETARIANS (theres loads of them, i picked a few):
Albert Einstein
Mahatma Gandhi
Bob Marley
Vincent Van Gogh
Leonardo Da Vinci
Plato
Sir Isaac Newton
Steven Jobs
Rosa Parks
Paul McCartney
KRS-one

Last edited by Rasta on 14 May 2011, 9:17 am, edited 1 time in total.

OK, you've got a lot more information from Rasta's posts than I have. I don't feel particularly hurt by Rasta's comments. I have no wish to hurt him either.

That's good to hear

I assume this was a reply to me. (Was it?)

I don't have Skype. My old PC with Win98SE (don't ask) seizes up and requires a hard reboot if I even so much as try to watch most videos on YouTube. I wasn't inviting you to have a private conversation with me. (I seldom talk to anybody, online or off.) I was inviting you to explain and expand on some of the things you have said.

I would not be surprised to learn that I was projecting and not understanding you at all. But you haven't explained whatever it was I (along with everyone else?) have misunderstood, so I am none the wiser.

I think this is going badly - like fatally badly - and, given the thread title, I should just not have read the thread at all. My money is now firmly on "troll". I just like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but that doubt is rapidly evaporating. You can prove me wrong if you want, but I'm not holding my breath.

You're just trying to be nice. Giving people the benefit of the doubt isn't a bad thing to do. I'm becoming more cynical by the day unfortunately.

You forgot Hitler.

All of it wrong, apparently, so no sweat! I'm not psychic. Perhaps I imagine things. Perhaps I have a lousy "theory of mind".

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply in any way that you were trying to hurt him. I was only saying that his misunderstanding of your situation and mine (it is that misunderstanding that matters, more than any temporary hurt that it may or may not cause) seemed to me to derive from his life having been very different from either yours or mine. He seemed to me to be projecting onto WP the great and possibly justified anger he feels at the "system" which blighted his childhood or youth. But I may have misunderstood that, as well as everything else. He does not seem very forthcoming when invited, without rancour, to explain some of the things he has said about himself and others.

By the way, I've been here two weeks now, and although that's not long, I have read quite a lot of threads, and, with the single exception of the OP of this thread, I have yet to see a single example of anyone deliberately trying to hurt anyone else. (I have been a bit hurt, myself, on occasion, but never deliberately, so far as I can see.) That's impressive.

(Oops, thread over!)

I don't think Hitler was a vegetarian, but I may be wrong - I may have been watching QI too much, and too uncritically!

No,"being nice" is acting, and I'm trying to give up acting, it's bad for me. I was trying to see the reality of the person. I try to see people as they really are, partly by paying close attention to the details of what they say (or write). I don't say I do a very good job of it! Perhaps I do a terrible job. Perhaps I'm trying to use mostly Aspie tools to do a mostly non-Aspie job, I don't know. But I'm not just trying to "be nice", ugh! No more mister nice guy.

I can't do cynicism. I can do fear (I'm great at that), paranoia (I'm learning, but I'm not very good at it yet), distrust, wariness, "once bitten, twice shy", weariness, and sometimes abject defeat, but never cynicism. Perhaps I just don't have the genes for it. Or maybe I'll have to learn it? Really very bad things have happened to me in "Real Life" (TM) when I have tried to do this sort of thing with very angry people. I also got bitten on the face by a dog when I tried to pat it in spite of the fact that it was growling and baring its teeth at me. I miss even canine social cues.

My landlord will disrespect my privacy, make unreasonable judgement & statements, then when she can't start an argument or even make me angry, she'll go further and further to the point where I'm getting removed from this homeshare. My support worker rants about her more than I do. I'm moving in with a really nice bhuddist family though I'm excited.

So when your calling me angry and all this type of deal, I'm not going to get angry over the internet... actually I'm mentally sending you as much love as I can because I think you need it. I dislike the way the systems are run including forums like these I think they are purposefully manipulated by esoteric groups. I was first going to ignore you because I watch people have debates like these and they never end & just get longer & longer - waste of time.

and yes I don't think aspergers exists, & im using the system.

If you can find me any "cureby" forum as they call people like me, I'll leave and go spread this information there... but they've set up all these walls around curing autism like it's such a scary & complex thing when in my reality, i see it differently.

EDIT:
yes, hitler was a vegetarian... u think he was doing it for the poor innocent little animals? ... or for his health.

I knew you were sending something. Love, eh? Must be overrated.

Er ... yes ... (backs away slowly, with a fixed smile, not TOO fixed, I hope, I hope he doesn't notice, oh wait, did I just say that out loud?)

At last we agree on something.

Believe me, this is the very first such wasteful, draining, pointless thread I have seen in my (admittedly short) time here. Two other threads (one one subject!) got annoying to me, and the annoyance in both cases was ended without much rancour or waste of time and energy.

Are you gleaning anything from this?

I'll take you at your word. My opinion of you shrinks to absolute zero.

I'm sure someone will have some suggestions as to where you should go and where you should put your opinions about how to cure something which doesn't exist.

Uh-huh.

Trolling is a mental thing. When someone says "I would explain my theory, but you wouldn't understand it, so I won't" that translates to "I have no idea what I'm talking about, because if my theory made sense, it would be rather simple in scope, not so complicated that I don't even understand how it works"

And by the way, the reason Hitler was a vegetarian wasn't so much for his health, but because of his paranoia. The second law he passed upon assuming office was to regulate the cooking of lobsters. He had a lobster in the early 1930's, and he sent it back because he said he could hear it screaming (Back then, lobsters were cooked alive, as it was thought they felt no pain. In the last couple years or so, it has been found they actually do feel pain) and as such he was a vegetarian.

By the way, if these forums suck as much as you say they do, then why are you here? (Troll?) You do have a feasible choice. A moving truck is not required to change the web address on your screen. As far as educating people, acting like a conspiracy theorist isn't going to change anybody's mind.

Good point about the finding a cureby forum thing. And I'm curious if you ever got diagnosed with aspergers, either way the diet can be very beneficial to anyone with any health problems. Normally I just leave my threads overnight so I can come back with lots of opinions & chose the simplified responses to react to.

well I hope your feeling Irie, because I sure am... but am a bit tired so gonna get ready for sleep it's 8:30am, and I dragged this conversation on a lot farther than I expected to.

one love

You know who else is a vegetarian?


Go on, wait for it...



Jenny McCarthy.

How is it relevant whether there are famous vegetarians or not? Am I missing something here?

In any case, when I was a vegetarian for 8 years I was no better or worse for it mentally, but physically I think I was worse. Some peoples bodies for whatever reason don't respond well to a vegetarian diet and I am one.

This thread looks like the work of a health kook run amok. Some medical conditions do respond to diet, but autism isn't one of them. I happen to be vegetarian because of another medical condition where I can't tolerate meat, and it has no effect on my autistic tendencies at all. Asperger's syndrome exists because the sensory perception issues can be measured. The brains of autistic people can be measured as different. Kooks generally ignore the weight of evidence like this. Conditions for which there is no known "cure" like autism tend to attract kooks. Saying autism is caused by ingesting metals is kookery on the level of the people who say using toothpaste causes various medical conditions.

I'm also perplexed at what the existence or non-existence of Asperger's syndrome has to do with my happiness. I didn't know it existed for many, many years. Now that I do know it exists, my general happiness is not markedly different.

The idea of people with Asperger's syndrome sitting around talking themselves into the idea that other people don't like them is quite insulting, given the really moving stories of abuse and torment by others that I've seen on this forum so far. I kind of wish I was the only one who was ever treated like that. Knowing that this sort of thing is common is discouraging.

BTW, I don't drink coffee. One of my quirks is not liking to drink any kind of warm liquid. So there goes that theory, too. I also can't tolerate soy - I'm not sure it's actually fit for human consumption anyway. Whatever a "nightshade" is, I don't eat potatoes or smoke tobacco. According to this kook, I should have no sensory perception issues or social difficulties at all. I think he's going to have to revamp his theory.

I have a very, very, very low tolerance for health kooks. Very low.