The paronormle

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A private, Episcopal school, with it's higher standards for critical thinking, made me an athiest. But I didn't find athiesm satisfying, or (more importantly) fun.

Just as faith proves nothing, neither does doubt.

So here's your reasoning:
a. There were lights in the sky.
b. You disagree with the official report.
:: Paranormal events are real.



Here's my reasoning:
a. There were unidentifiable objects moving around in the sky.
b. The official reports are supportable by known science.
:: The lights in the sky were most likely the result of natural atmospheric events.

Just because "independent scientists" disagree with experts, it does not mean that the experts were wrong. It only means that there is a disagreement. I have yet to see any valid material evidence to support the idea that those pretty lights were anything other than a mirage caused by temperature inversions reflecting and refracting electromagnetic waves over a populated area - which is the most likely explanation, and the one most easily explained without proposing paranormal forces or alien technology.

Isn't it enough to marvel at the lights in the sky without assuming paranormal forces or alien technology behind them?

Oh yeah, Robert! I'm familiar with his story. It is one of the scariest since it is one of the most believable ones I have come across.

Thanks for the heads-up about the scams! Don't worry, I will be careful online.

Also, the hills cool at night, and create compression in crystalline structures in the earth. The piezoelectric effect then produces colorful electrical discharges.

Maybe.

I doubt the competence of our government to carry out a big coverup, as they are so full of fail elsewhere.

Politicians can not even cover up their own affairs, so how can one expect them to cover up a flock of chinese lanterns being used to photograph communist subversives on the Delaware River?






(... oops ... I wasn't supposed to say that ... please ignore this post ... and the plain-clothes policemen lurking across the street ...)

Im sorry what are you trying to say?

That conspiracy theories are a joke.

dolls are really creepy i had this toy dog one time and it could be the battery im not ganna lie but we said something on it and the nexst ower it came out saying: blood. it was this recording thingy on it. but who knows.

An exsperinces i had one time with myself was i was sitting down at the computer and i heard someone kock on my door and it scared me it couldnt have been anyone because it was 12 at night and know one ever comes to are house that late and when i did get the curige to look outside there wasnt anyone there i comvinced myself to say : they walked away. When really idk who the hell would have even been there no one has before.

Like im said im a medium i get this stuff alot like one time i had this plant and there was a light that my mom stuck into it it was deep in there so it couldnt fall out. I heard like 3 smacking sonds and i turn around and it stops.(btw before this happend i new something was there) does it agien avreytime. and finley it falls to the floor...
Yeah i know sonds crazy but i like to talk about my exsperinces i thought id put one in sorry if you think wtf of me im just putting something out there that happend to me. well yeah things are creepy but i get used to it. UFOS though makes me wonder about things. im one who will make sure it was not anything elts before i yell paronormle! I dont like to think about UFOS out of avreythign i really try egnoreing that subject wont lie it does give me the gose bumbs but i hide it ;p

You may have forgotten we live in the era of the National Security State and the USA is the largest. The maintenance of silence by governments in relation to UFO's and alien abductions at the very least (best case scenario) reveals a lack of will to investigate what may turn out to be a can worms that could cause world wide destabilization of society as we know it.

At worst there is a conspiracy to cover up, there is plenty of evidence of the latter.

Lets return to the lights which you have put so much faith in the official report. I have scoured meteorological films and known records of temperature inversions and - guess what - the only known manifestation of a temperature inversion is thin lines in the sky. The lights seen and filmed in 1952 are clearly bulbous solid looking objects eminating light. Passengers and crew in an airliner that passed these objects reported to the media the objects were not only solid but could distinguish windows, this was corroborated by witnesses on the ground. Radar operators on the ground all knew this was not a temperature inversion because they are all trained to look for distinct patterns that are a-typical of this phenomena. Why do you think they sent so many planes into the skies! to chase reflections of light?
I could understand one radar operator may have been drinking and made that mistake - but every radar operator in Washington? no I dont think so.

Finally the lights were seen for a couple of consecutive days yet the specific weather conditions over Washington leading to the so called light inversion illusion was conducive for this to happen for at least a couple of months that year.

Captain Edward J. Ruppelt was the head of the US Air Force's secret Project Blue Book is on the record as stating he is sure the lights were not caused by a temperature inversion.

If the airforce are such experts in lights from temperature then explain why such a phenomena was never seen before or since and never recorded on film? you would think somebody would have reported this pattern of lights since 1952?? right? perhaps film it on their mobile phone
The lack of scientific objectivity in this incident is so bizzare it's really quite mind blowing.

This is a subjective judgment. Scientists are divided as to whether the evidence suggests that paranormal events exist or not. I have formal scientific training and have studied many sciences including parapsychology extensively in my own time, and my judgment is that the evidence for the paranormal, while not absolutely conclusive, is really quite strong. Please do not state your opinions as though they were facts. To do so is irrational and unscientific.

if i didn't see for myself, some unearthlike fast and shining craft under intelligent control, being chased by jet fighters [from mcchord AFB a mile to the east] over spanaway lake in august 2007, i would not be as ready to believe, but that is what i saw- after a few seconds of pursuit, the shiny craft went straight upwards for a bit and then just winked out of sight, IOW it disappeared into thin air. the air force pursuit craft then circled the area and returned to base just as quickly as they arrived. what is really strange [AFAIC] is that when i looked around at where i was after the incident, [i was on the beach of spanaway lake] nobody else seemed to have noticed what happened in the sky a few hundred feet above them just then, it seemed that i was the only one paying attention, everybody else was only concerned with getting a tan or frolicking in the water. i wish the spacemen would have taken me with them.

For those of you who use the cop-out explanation of 'UFO's being Advanced Military Aircraft, what were they in 1947, 1944 and way back to Biblical times AND before?

Talking of Biblical, the whole Jesus thing sounds like a typical Alien Abduction to me........Mary having an 'immaculate conception', the arc Angel Gabriel, Star that guided them to and hovered over the Stable.............then Jesus possessing Universal Knowledge & Great Powers????????

Perhaps they did

I never used to pay much attention to the topic of the paranormal. I didn't have much of an opinion on it, either way. Some decidedly odd things did happen to me in the early 1970s, just after I went to university, but I could never communicate about what happened, nor did I try to read up on the subject in general. (A very great many things were happening all at once, all of them beyond words, but only some of them apparently paranormal.) It wasn't until an incredible deluge of bad things happened to me all at once (and indeed synchonistically) in or around 1993 - and I even felt as if I were living in a 1970s horror movie (to be specific, it was The Creeping Flesh (1973)) - that I was simply forced to acknowledge the reality of paranormal events. This was about as far from a comforting wish-fulfilment as it is possible to get! It was sheer and utter terror, deepening my already unendurable depression and isolation. Now, in a sense, it was as if the whole universe were out to get me; yet I had no paranoid conspiracy theory, nor any religious or magical ideology, to explain any of it. I still have absolutely no belief in the "supernatural", only in synchronicity. But that is already a very strange idea, and I still find it impossible to comprehend what kind of universe it can be in which synchronistic events can occur. It is as if reality itself were only a dream. But I am a very staunch realist, so I really hate that idea! Since then, it hasn't continued to be so all-consumingly terrifying. The consuming terror lasted for years, and the strand of terror continues until this moment, but there are also more positive strands of synchronicity now. The evil still far outweighs the good, but that might change, with any luck (or synchronicity!). I'm no longer an atheist (as I was for almost all of my long life), but I don't know what I believe (and I still detest organised religion as much as ever). The idea that some kind of God exists, but is evil or insane (or perhaps just immature), still often seems compelling.

If you want to read up on this idea, try The Apocryphon of John.