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26 Jun 2011, 9:46 pm

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Another thing: their Facebook statuses. Especially the ones where they are cryptically having a go at someone.


It's rarely cryptic. :roll:

Sometimes, I wish they were less functional, just so they could experience life on my level.



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26 Jun 2011, 10:29 pm

shallowness....



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26 Jun 2011, 10:41 pm

I think I'm half NT, half HFA


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26 Jun 2011, 10:43 pm

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I get annoyed when it is assumed that everyone needs/likes socialization.


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26 Jun 2011, 11:06 pm

I wish NT's could represent the beauty to understand those who have Asperger's Syndrome. They consider themselves knowledgeable about society without understanding the behaviors and complexity of an Autistic person. With that said, they are stereotypical and define us as 'social misfits,' when in reality they are sad inside trying to find a rail to hold onto. Considering how NT's behave in my school, I consider a fake persona a weakness to describe with words of 'self-hatred,' and 'deep-seeded socialism discarded--for something more efficient.' I consider them very illogical at times and they have an ego for being 'normal.' They walk a certain way and are very narcissistic, while daydreaming about their jobs at work. I find it sad trying to comprehend the seemingly 'anti-love' they have for free speech and other liberal 'possessions' that would allow esoteric behaviors. They seem to fear the masses themselves, but especially fear the atypical persons. I feel that they don't know how to cling onto the whole embodiment of things and seemingly have no care in the world of anything other than drinking their heads away while gossiping about other people, particularly those that are their friends, because they either 1) don't like that person very much, or 2) are abnormal themselves and don't know how to word it, and do not want to lose the friendship of the interpreter/starter or the receptionist.

Above all, many of them define us as androids, in the form of a human body (of course through symbolism) or people who are very different. They think of us as complex enigmas at best, when they could be looking in the mirror and finding out that every human being has a complexity about them that is either flawed or beautiful. They don't know anything other than labeling those who are different and discovering reasons to mock them. They are also mocking themselves, I say, for we are all part of the metaphysical string of humanity, holding hands, throughout some form of 'familial generosity.' In other words, we all seem to have our genetics related, and therefore, should be looking into the eyes of each other. We all, after all, humans who have had ancestors from way back when, and they relate, as do we, and mocking another person is not a way to be classified as the 'non-social misfit.' Those are my two cents. Maybe I feel this way because I have been completely mocked and dreaded over in my highschool years. (Thank God I only have two more years)



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26 Jun 2011, 11:41 pm

I don't know if you'd called these things AS vs NT issues, but they are certainly Me vs Most of the People Around Me issues.

I don't like how so few people think about their actions. They just do them. They do what they do because it's what's done. They do it because the person next to them did it. They don't even think about it enough to notice that the person next to them did it, and that this is why they did it too. And if you break the rhythm by saying, "No," it is as a record scratch interrupting the music. The silence that follows usually has the statement, "Well, everyone else is."

I don't like the small talk, and the strange communication it is supposed to enable. As far as I can see it, the messages that can be sent through simple body language are nothing to the kind you can send through intelligent speech. Yet other people seem to cling to the message that is sent through saying one of the acceptable greetings in the correct manner, or any of the other pat statements said in the right way to cement their positions in the group. Thanking a person for blessing you when you sneeze. It represents the opposite of learning.

I don't like the assumption that everyone knows what they know. I don't like assumption. I don't like the lack of a standard of good behavior and manners in a society that is bent on judging you when you fail to live up to a standard... that isn't there.

I don't like the hurry. I work well but not fast. I am not lazy or indecisive. I have my own standard of the order of performing tasks, and may not choose the popular first choice as my own, no matter how others may prioritize. I can make decisions but I need the required data and time to analyze it. I, like everyone else, see things my won way. Unlike everyone else, I seldom subordinate my personal approach to the approach of the group in order to stay in good standing. And I have finally learned not to hurry. Let them jump up and down and scream. I'm pretty sure I'll laugh. I need time to think about that.


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26 Jun 2011, 11:45 pm

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I wish they were more logical...


I agree. I swear I loose an IQ point whenever I hang out with my NT friends (I'm surprised I have any NT friends at all).



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27 Jun 2011, 2:21 am

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I wish NT's could represent the beauty to understand those who have Asperger's Syndrome. They consider themselves knowledgeable about society without understanding the behaviors and complexity of an Autistic person. With that said, they are stereotypical and define us as 'social misfits,' when in reality they are sad inside trying to find a rail to hold onto. Considering how NT's behave in my school, I consider a fake persona a weakness to describe with words of 'self-hatred,' and 'deep-seeded socialism discarded--for something more efficient.' I consider them very illogical at times and they have an ego for being 'normal.' They walk a certain way and are very narcissistic, while daydreaming about their jobs at work. I find it sad trying to comprehend the seemingly 'anti-love' they have for free speech and other liberal 'possessions' that would allow esoteric behaviors. They seem to fear the masses themselves, but especially fear the atypical persons. I feel that they don't know how to cling onto the whole embodiment of things and seemingly have no care in the world of anything other than drinking their heads away while gossiping about other people, particularly those that are their friends, because they either 1) don't like that person very much, or 2) are abnormal themselves and don't know how to word it, and do not want to lose the friendship of the interpreter/starter or the receptionist.

Above all, many of them define us as androids, in the form of a human body (of course through symbolism) or people who are very different. They think of us as complex enigmas at best, when they could be looking in the mirror and finding out that every human being has a complexity about them that is either flawed or beautiful. They don't know anything other than labeling those who are different and discovering reasons to mock them. They are also mocking themselves, I say, for we are all part of the metaphysical string of humanity, holding hands, throughout some form of 'familial generosity.' In other words, we all seem to have our genetics related, and therefore, should be looking into the eyes of each other. We all, after all, humans who have had ancestors from way back when, and they relate, as do we, and mocking another person is not a way to be classified as the 'non-social misfit.' Those are my two cents. Maybe I feel this way because I have been completely mocked and dreaded over in my highschool years. (Thank God I only have two more years)


yeah they think they are perfect most of the time, i swear. if i go on a forum and get upset about a hateful comment on me they are surprised, and they tell me that words written on the internet is nothing to get upset about. like i can't get angry at anything they say but if i say something that is purely my opinion, i prefer cats over dogs or something even if i was talking about a global concept like cosplay in general, they get all upset and get a stick shoved up their rear about it. i mean honestly me not liking cosplay is not going to hurt them one bit, or effect their idea of the concept.

most of the time when i talk about something i like\dislike i'm just ranting or i just want to talk about it.



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27 Jun 2011, 3:48 am

I hate how they can't accept that some people are different, and be ok with it.

If anyone is too different, they get pigeonholed into non existence.



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27 Jun 2011, 4:07 am

What I hate about NT's:

-they get upset over ret*d stuff, that people with AS wouldn't give much thought too. They take things personally because it's HAS to be about them

-they are fake phony pricks obsessed with FAKEbook...I mean "facebook"

-they are self-promoters, and then the idiot NT bosses eat up the self-promotion, and reward these idiots by giving them job promotions, instead of saying to them "kissing my ass isn't going to work"



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27 Jun 2011, 4:11 am

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My mum, for example, had an operation on her lower thighs, and she doesn't want to go swimming any more, because she doesn't want to show all the scars. So I suggested her to wear one of those longer swimsuits - the ones what don't come down like knickers but the ones what come down like shorts, so it can cover her scars. And she was all like, ''no way - people will laugh at me!'' And so I sighed and said, ''oh, I see. It's against the stupid rules of fashion. OK - go ahead and don't get your exercise then.''


That's silly to me as well! I've got um... European legs... (hairy :lol: ) and can't shave because of psoriasis, so I bought one of those swimsuits. They're not all frumpy and old fashioned any more, mine's a designer brand!

What I don't like about NTs (not all but some) is how they decide that everyone should have to listen to their noise, their music and that horrible tinny tsk tsk tsk that comes off their headphones. They justify their actions by telling YOU to 'get a life'. They say WE have no theory of mind/empathy, yet don't seem to care that their own actions cause pain and discomfort to autistic people. They say WE have to conform to THEIR standards and yet won't take the time to understand us and make the world a better place for us.

Like I said though, I don't want to generalise because I do know A LOT of really nice NTs who don't do any of the above.


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27 Jun 2011, 5:45 am

How they don't think much, and consider this a good thing. Everything is so "whatever." Being stupid is desirable. And how they gossip about people that are different and just can't accept that someone does things differently than other people. I don't do them differently to stand out, I just do them a certain way because I'm not going to fake everything and be stupid just because other people say it's the way it should be.



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27 Jun 2011, 6:06 am

All the self representational ego s**t à la facebook! Come on sapiens.. :x



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27 Jun 2011, 6:07 am

1) How there dishonest about what they really think of you. You can pin something on them, they'll still lie if they feel necessary. If you did something weird, they'll pretend to be ok with it for the moment but then later they'll later be less receptive to you.

2) How they pity me, they will be my be my friend more because them putting up with me is empowering to them. Them being my friend makes them feel good because its like charity work. It makes them look good to other NTs.



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27 Jun 2011, 8:14 am

Their apparent determination to avoid thinking logically about what they're doing/about to do.



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27 Jun 2011, 8:34 am

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Lunasa wrote:
I wish NT's could represent the beauty to understand those who have Asperger's Syndrome. They consider themselves knowledgeable about society without understanding the behaviors and complexity of an Autistic person. With that said, they are stereotypical and define us as 'social misfits,' when in reality they are sad inside trying to find a rail to hold onto. Considering how NT's behave in my school, I consider a fake persona a weakness to describe with words of 'self-hatred,' and 'deep-seeded socialism discarded--for something more efficient.' I consider them very illogical at times and they have an ego for being 'normal.' They walk a certain way and are very narcissistic, while daydreaming about their jobs at work. I find it sad trying to comprehend the seemingly 'anti-love' they have for free speech and other liberal 'possessions' that would allow esoteric behaviors. They seem to fear the masses themselves, but especially fear the atypical persons. I feel that they don't know how to cling onto the whole embodiment of things and seemingly have no care in the world of anything other than drinking their heads away while gossiping about other people, particularly those that are their friends, because they either 1) don't like that person very much, or 2) are abnormal themselves and don't know how to word it, and do not want to lose the friendship of the interpreter/starter or the receptionist.

Above all, many of them define us as androids, in the form of a human body (of course through symbolism) or people who are very different. They think of us as complex enigmas at best, when they could be looking in the mirror and finding out that every human being has a complexity about them that is either flawed or beautiful. They don't know anything other than labeling those who are different and discovering reasons to mock them. They are also mocking themselves, I say, for we are all part of the metaphysical string of humanity, holding hands, throughout some form of 'familial generosity.' In other words, we all seem to have our genetics related, and therefore, should be looking into the eyes of each other. We all, after all, humans who have had ancestors from way back when, and they relate, as do we, and mocking another person is not a way to be classified as the 'non-social misfit.' Those are my two cents. Maybe I feel this way because I have been completely mocked and dreaded over in my highschool years. (Thank God I only have two more years)


yeah they think they are perfect most of the time, i swear. if i go on a forum and get upset about a hateful comment on me they are surprised, and they tell me that words written on the internet is nothing to get upset about. like i can't get angry at anything they say but if i say something that is purely my opinion, i prefer cats over dogs or something even if i was talking about a global concept like cosplay in general, they get all upset and get a stick shoved up their rear about it. i mean honestly me not liking cosplay is not going to hurt them one bit, or effect their idea of the concept.

most of the time when i talk about something i like\dislike i'm just ranting or i just want to talk about it.


I understand where you are getting about with that statement. People who are NT or 'normal,' so to speak, are often times insecurities sheltered away for only the sky to see. If only the sky was a functioning organism, or at least a receptionist to action or sound or even behaviors that the so called 'human' conjure, via their various insecurities or securities that are marked by 'true sadism,' to one's self. In other words, as humanity is, the broad scope, there are various misunderstandings that have to do with not them, but THEMSELVES. Isn't it obvious that people who act pompous truly are sad within and are unable to see through the atypical being? Is it that they have a conspiracy against us in order to attain self-respect by their NT friends while making themselves look better? Maybe. I think so. I truly understand your pain and have been called various names in my school because MY personal believes vary from there's. Whatever happened to freedom of speech or freedom or religion or press? After all, this is the land of the free and brave and should be treated as such and not some union where several 'oligarchy-related' factions meet. I find it sad to be honest, because a lot of the kids are at their last breath emotionally and should find a new way to recharge their breaths without being killed in the mean time--before that rapture comes to claim them. I pity them, as I despise and aggravate their misunderstanding, to be honest, but alas, ambiguity is a part of life and THEY will probably surpass two-colored irises in order to gain satisfaction from the public of being 'normal.' By 'normal,' I mean the anti-esoteric being and not the NT. Yes. They are connected, but different.

Moreover, I suspect the literary critic in an Asperger's is far more advanced then it is in an NT. In other words, those who are Asperger's are known for perceiving details that are hidden and locked within the subconscious void of the writer, and therefore can see more of that than the actual meaning, which, in fact, carries a lot of the details in a very different way. In that respect, they are known for their creative abilities and also intelligence, which, are two great qualities to have. The Asperger's person is also quite compassionate and can sympathize with others on various levels even if he/she doesn't empathize, because she/he cannot understand why they are not like them. (sometimes)

Also, a lot of people seem to be narcissistic in general; a reason many many people are misanthropes and carry no respect for humanity whatsoever (even if compassionate). By 'misanthrope,' I do not mean a serial killer. I mean a person who firmly believes that humanity has gone to waste with a lack of morals and kind words for other people: a person who cannot comprehend other people even at the sake or cost of their own lives, be it NT or AS, because they are lost and do not know what to do. Also, a 'misanthrope,' can be a compassionate person who feels it has SADLY gone to waste--humanity, and wishes he/she could do something and they feel sorry for the AS people being made fun of.



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