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07 Aug 2011, 7:04 pm

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Hey bro, this video may explain some things that I hope you will find helpful

http://www.caetextia.com/pages/defaultnetwork.html

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context blindness', a chronic disorder manifesting in the inability to adjust behaviours or perception to deal appropriately with interacting variables.



The site reviewed cases of people who have chronic fatigue syndrome(CFD) and discovered that there is a lot of overlap between people with aspergers and people who have cfd.

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    inability to think contextually, leading to unrealistic expectations of capabilities. People may talk about life goals that are not really reachable from where they are. For example, one right-brained caetextic woman with a diagnosis of CFS had, as her somewhat unrealistic aim in life, “healing wild animals, like lions and tigers”. A depressed, left-brained caetextic man had an equally unrealistic goal of starting a sailing school in Malta, when he couldn’t sail or even swim

    a history of relationship difficulties

    difficulties in developing rapport with a therapist, due to obsessive self-focus and lack of emotional reciprocity

    resistance to change, inflexibility of thought and rigid behaviour patterns

    problems with short-term memory, concentration and maintaining attention, typical of predominantly right-brained people. (By contrast, left-brained caetextics have enormous powers of concentration.)

    sleep disturbance

    clinical depression

    extreme mood swings – sufferers may get angry or depressed for no apparent reason

    inability to ‘read’ what others might be thinking

    tendency to do too much at one go, then collapse with exhaustion. This can take the form of workaholism: taking on tremendous responsibility, working excessively hard and then collapsing

    perfectionism. Combined with an excessive workload, this stresses the immune system to such an extent that even a simple viral infection can trigger CFS. Indeed, CFS is sometimes called post-viral fatigue syndrome.


holy crap what you wrote there is my life in a nutshell. i go through every thing you posted.


lol I know what you mean! so do you have chronic fatigue syndrome, aspergers, or both? (I have both.)


i don't know i couldn't understand the video he was talking right over my head.



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07 Aug 2011, 7:21 pm

i seem to have both as well as well is the extreme chaotic mood swings. the more and more i read i wonder if i'm on the more severe side.

when i was dxed it was when i was 15 or so, back then i was mild. once i turned 18 and up i knew i was getting worse, the story became it's own entity, i started getting angry at the drop of a hat, and the violent thoughts i had every once in a while were now in my head constantly, i get paranoid when holding knives, but at other times i pick up a knife and get this weird feeling like i get an adrenaline rush holding it, my hunting knife produces the most effect, might be because a hunting knife is mostly used to kill things.

i'll never murder i don't have the guts to, but i just get these feelings holding it, my boxcutter has almost no effect on me.

but it was like my life fell apart at 18.



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07 Aug 2011, 10:46 pm

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so that got me thinking are there different types of aspies, and not just different severities of aspergers. not just high or low functioning. but different combinations of the symptoms.


I think this is true just by the definition of different PDDs in the DSM, both AS and Autism are defined as having a subset of the characteristics listed, so I would assume there are quite a few people that don't fit everything on the DSM. It also seems from reading these forums that most people also have similar problems and traits that are not even listed in the DSM, for example: sensitivity to light/sound/etc, anxiety, literal interpretation of language, etc, etc.

Genetics could provide a good answer to why this is, since autism genetics seem very complex. My assumption here is that there are many genotypes which will express the autistic phenotype as described in the DSM. It might be that these different genotypes produce different 'brain wirings' which all can appear to be autistic. This could explain why some have very strong visual thinking, while others have more patterned or language-based thinking. Sensory issued could also be explained this way, some people seem to have more sound related issues while others have more light related issues. Just like there are probably quite a few 'brain wiring' genotypes that will be expressed as NT, there is probably more than one autistic phenotype 'brain wiring' which could account for different types of aspies.


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07 Aug 2011, 10:59 pm

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From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


I always feel like most other aspies are loud ones, and being a quiet one is unusual. (I'm glad to hear there are others like me.) In fact, I've questioned whether I'm just autistic (admittedly not being an expert on autism and surely making false assumptions). However, apparently that can't be the case, because I actually spoke and read at an early age.

Anyway, I think she's wrong about the quiet ones being shy. I have been told I was shy my entire life, but I don't refrain from speaking out of anxiety. I do it because I have such difficulty summoning spoken words.



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07 Aug 2011, 11:15 pm

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so that got me thinking are there different types of aspies, and not just different severities of aspergers. not just high or low functioning. but different combinations of the symptoms.


I think this is true just by the definition of different PDDs in the DSM, both AS and Autism are defined as having a subset of the characteristics listed, so I would assume there are quite a few people that don't fit everything on the DSM. It also seems from reading these forums that most people also have similar problems and traits that are not even listed in the DSM, for example: sensitivity to light/sound/etc, anxiety, literal interpretation of language, etc, etc.

Genetics could provide a good answer to why this is, since autism genetics seem very complex. My assumption here is that there are many genotypes which will express the autistic phenotype as described in the DSM. It might be that these different genotypes produce different 'brain wirings' which all can appear to be autistic. This could explain why some have very strong visual thinking, while others have more patterned or language-based thinking. Sensory issued could also be explained this way, some people seem to have more sound related issues while others have more light related issues. Just like there are probably quite a few 'brain wiring' genotypes that will be expressed as NT, there is probably more than one autistic phenotype 'brain wiring' which could account for different types of aspies.


O_o you lost me big time. i've never researched autism or any mental illness not one of my interests. i have no idea what pdd, and dsm are. all the stuff i listed in my post are things that i have do etc... i also have light\sound sensitivity. i don't know all of the symptoms or what all AS can do or all assosiated with it. i found those symptoms on the schizod personality disorder page on wikipedia, autism page didn't have specifics so i just kept the ones i had and then ranted about my internal tv



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07 Aug 2011, 11:20 pm

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From my observations, there are two main types of aspies. The quiet ones, and the loud ones.

http://aspergersgirl.com/blog/aspergers ... ud-aspies/


I always feel like most other aspies are loud ones, and being a quiet one is unusual. (I'm glad to hear there are others like me.) In fact, I've questioned whether I'm just autistic (admittedly not being an expert on autism and surely making false assumptions). However, apparently that can't be the case, because I actually spoke and read at an early age.

Anyway, I think she's wrong about the quiet ones being shy. I have been told I was shy my entire life, but I don't refrain from speaking out of anxiety. I do it because I have such difficulty summoning spoken words.


I know what you mean, but I think for me part of it is actually shyness. I was able to speak at the age of two, but I never talked to anyone other than my parents. If anyone else tried to speak to me, I would ignore them. I eventually grew out of that though before I started school, but even then, I was still probably the shyest person in my class.

It's enough to question whether or not I'm actually autistic, but since it's obvious that the other criteria (intense interests, preference for routines, etc.) still applies to me, I've given up doubting myself.


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08 Aug 2011, 1:07 am

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so that got me thinking are there different types of aspies, and not just different severities of aspergers. not just high or low functioning. but different combinations of the symptoms.


I think this is true just by the definition of different PDDs in the DSM, both AS and Autism are defined as having a subset of the characteristics listed, so I would assume there are quite a few people that don't fit everything on the DSM. It also seems from reading these forums that most people also have similar problems and traits that are not even listed in the DSM, for example: sensitivity to light/sound/etc, anxiety, literal interpretation of language, etc, etc.

Genetics could provide a good answer to why this is, since autism genetics seem very complex. My assumption here is that there are many genotypes which will express the autistic phenotype as described in the DSM. It might be that these different genotypes produce different 'brain wirings' which all can appear to be autistic. This could explain why some have very strong visual thinking, while others have more patterned or language-based thinking. Sensory issued could also be explained this way, some people seem to have more sound related issues while others have more light related issues. Just like there are probably quite a few 'brain wiring' genotypes that will be expressed as NT, there is probably more than one autistic phenotype 'brain wiring' which could account for different types of aspies.


O_o you lost me big time. i've never researched autism or any mental illness not one of my interests. i have no idea what pdd, and dsm are. all the stuff i listed in my post are things that i have do etc... i also have light\sound sensitivity. i don't know all of the symptoms or what all AS can do or all assosiated with it. i found those symptoms on the schizod personality disorder page on wikipedia, autism page didn't have specifics so i just kept the ones i had and then ranted about my internal tv


Sorry I lost you, after re-reading, it doesn't seem as clear as I wanted it to be. :oops: Anyway all I was trying to get at is that there are probably many different 'brain wirings' that the human species can have. There are many wirings which would be considered neurotypical... not all NTs think alike. There are also probably many wirings which could manifest as autistic... not all autistic people think alike either! So when you look at symptoms of Asperger's that some people seem to have but not all, I think that is just indicating a slightly differently wired autistic brain. The definition of Asperger's and autism used in diagnosis states observable behaviors and not really how the person actually thinks.

Your internal TV sounds like another type of brain wiring... reminds me somewhat of the way Temple Grandin describes her visual thinking. Also, it seems many aspies have at least some of the traits listed for personality disorders. I have seen many threads on here where people have asked about the differences between Asperger's and personality disorders. I don't really know enough to make any specific comments though. You might want to try searching for schizoid on WP and read some other peoples comments on the subject.

PS: I don't back up the idea of 'brain wiring' with any evidence, so its more of just a theory I guess. It seems like the concept that autistic brains are wired differently is well accepted, though I'm not sure it has been researched extensively.


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08 Aug 2011, 1:57 pm

ok that makes sense, it's cool that we are all different.

i don't know who temple grandin is, but to me it seems the internal tv is kinda rare, it may have something to do with dreaming. but i just find it cool.

my mom says she can only see pictures in her head, like if she's trying to remember someone, she was shocked when i told her i could watch whole movies in my head.