What is the most common type of autism?

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11 Aug 2011, 4:48 pm

Alex, your link didn't work.

I've heard of Carly before, but who is Amanda?


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11 Aug 2011, 4:55 pm

autistic disorder is still the most common (kanner syndrome) or classic autism.aspergers is second most common.childhood disintigrative disorder is still very rare and retts is still the most rare.as far as ppd-nos,it is imposable to say because ppd-nos is less a type of autism but a label put on someone who's autism is hard to put in a technical catagory.obviously i have no way of knowing if all these statistics are 100% accurate but there as accurate as anything out there


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11 Aug 2011, 5:00 pm

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Alex, your link didn't work.

I've heard of Carly before, but who is Amanda?
Really? Here's the link again - http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=KLDGGWNX
This is Amanda in this video. I personally don't agree with what she's saying though.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc[/youtube]



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11 Aug 2011, 5:00 pm

From the WebMD site:

How Common Is Asperger's Syndrome?
Asperger's syndrome has only recently been recognized as a unique disorder. For that reason, the exact number of people with the disorder is unknown, although it is more common than autism. Estimates suggest Asperger's syndrome affects from 0.024% to 0.36% of children. It is more common in males than in females, and usually is first diagnosed in children between the ages of 2 and 6 years


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11 Aug 2011, 5:02 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
It makes sense that PDDNOS would be the largest group seeing as how it that is everyone who is on the spectrum that doesn't fit into the neat little box of Aspergers or classic Autism. I've read before that Aspergers is more rare than classic Autism; however, I read in a recent study that showed Aspergers is actually more common, it just hasn't been diagnosed more often yet because it is newer. It does occur more often in the population though.

For whoever said Tourettes: that is definitely not on the spectrum. TS is something else entirely, though people can have both an ASD and TS. *EDIT: just saw this was already corrected, and responded to.*

Also, it is important to note that Rett's is being removed from the spectrum, so I do not refer to that as an ASD anymore.


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I was first diagnosed with Classic Autism & then later as 'high functioning autism' so if there not diagnostic terms, then how come I was diagnosed with the term & I've heard others say they are too. Even if it's not a term; it's still defenitly a type, so I want to use it.


HFA is ambiguous. It can mean a variety of things. It could be someone with classic autism who is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. Or it could be someone with another ASD such as PDDNOS or Aspergers which both fall on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. There is NO disorder called HFA. It is not AD, AS, PDDNOS, and HFA. It is JUST AD, AS, and PDDNOS. HFA can officially be in any of those three categories depending on what definition the psych is using for it. You CAN have classic autism and be HFA. That is likely the case with you. You qualified for a classic autism diagnosis as a child, but maybe you were more severe back then (I am not saying LFA, just more severe than today). If you qualified back then for classic autism, then you have classic autism, but would be high-functioning today. It is a term used by psychs, but it is not an official diagnostic term. Do not believe this? All you need to do is look in the DSM for HFA diagnostic criteria. Trust me, you will NOT find it in there! That does not mean that the psychs will not use it to help them classify you and clarify where you are on the spectrum. When I was diagnosed, I was told I am high-functioning as opposed to low-functioning, but that I have moderate classic autism.
I had therapy before I was reassessed & I've had years & years of ABA since even then. BTW, you know like you can be severe but not loew functioning? Can you have aspergers but not be high functioning?



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11 Aug 2011, 5:09 pm

Thanks for posting the video! Had never heard of her before.


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11 Aug 2011, 5:10 pm

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Can you have aspergers but not be high functioning?


I think Aspergers, by definition, is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. That being said, high-functioning does NOT mean mild, and there can be people with very mild Aspergers and those with severe Aspergers.


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11 Aug 2011, 5:12 pm

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Can you have aspergers but not be high functioning?


I think Aspergers, by definition, is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. That being said, high-functioning does NOT mean mild, and there can be people with very mild Aspergers and those with severe Aspergers.
Can aspergers ever impact your life like autism & can it ever mean you can't take buses or be fairly independent. I mean of course with still having the basics.



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11 Aug 2011, 5:20 pm

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Can aspergers ever impact your life like autism & can it ever mean you can't take buses or be fairly independent. I mean of course with still having the basics.


Maybe those with very severe aspergers. A lady goes to my self-advocacy group, and she has Aspergers and needs assistance with some things (ie. she lives in a group home and does not drive or use the computer). There are varying forms of independence, and some people need more assistance than others, but those with true Aspergers are still HF ASD (but could still be mild, moderate or severe AS).

Is this just out of curiousity or is it for yourself? Because one thing is for certain, you can't TECHNICALLY go from classic autism to aspergers. Some people do get re-diagnosed later on simply because they were misdiagnosed in the first place, but if you truly qualified for classic autism as a child, then you would still have it as an adult (or as an almost-adult! :wink: ) But people have gone from moderate classic autism to much more improved symptoms as they got older due to therapy and learning/coping mechanisms. My diagnosis changed, but that was only because I was misdiagnosed to begin with.


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11 Aug 2011, 5:20 pm

AlexWelshman wrote:
littlelily613 wrote:
AlexWelshman wrote:
Can you have aspergers but not be high functioning?


I think Aspergers, by definition, is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. That being said, high-functioning does NOT mean mild, and there can be people with very mild Aspergers and those with severe Aspergers.
Can aspergers ever impact your life like autism & can it ever mean you can't take buses or be fairly independent. I mean of course with still having the basics.


Actually, according to DSM-IV, the only difference between classic autism and Asperger's disorder is the language delay. You get classed into one category ar another depending on whether you were talking by the age 2 or not. The course of the disorder may be the same afterwards. True, average or more than average IQ is seen more often in Asperger's syndrome than in classic autism but it might be related to the fact that children subsequently diagnosed with autism didn't talk until age of 2 or later exactly because they were more severely affected.
In any case, according to the current criteria classic autism might be indistiguishable from Asperger's if data about early language development is unavailable.

About how common autistic disorders are:

Childhood disintegrative disorder (CDD) is probably the rarest of it all, followed by Rett syndrome.

Prevalence of CDD is estimated at about 1: 100 000 - 5:100 000. CDD may be misdiagnosed though.

Rett syndrome, as it is severe and nowadays almost invariably comes to medical attention, has pretty reliable prevalence stats, namely, about 1:15 000 - 1:20 000 live births. It affects predominantly girls though, boys generally do not survive until the end of pregnancy, so the incidence of Rett syndrome foetuses must be app. 1:7 500-1:10 000.

Then you have classic autism and Asperger's disorder whose prevalence is estimated by various researchers to be between 1:2000 to 1:250.Thing is, many high-functioning people with classic autism are never diagnosed so they don't contribute to medical statistics.

As for PDD-NOS, I suppose, it is even more common, but it is hard to be accurate. I'd venture a guess for a prevalence of about 1:50.



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11 Aug 2011, 5:28 pm

littlelily613 wrote:
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Can aspergers ever impact your life like autism & can it ever mean you can't take buses or be fairly independent. I mean of course with still having the basics.


Maybe those with very severe aspergers.
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Is this just out of curiousity or is it for yourself? Because one thing is for certain, you can't TECHNICALLY go from classic autism to aspergers. Some people do get re-diagnosed later on simply because they were misdiagnosed in the first place, but if you truly qualified for classic autism as a child, then you would still have it as an adult (or as an almost-adult! :wink: ) But people have gone from moderate classic autism to much more improved symptoms as they got older due to therapy and learning/coping mechanisms. My diagnosis changed, but that was only because I was misdiagnosed to begin with.

Profound Asperger! Ha!
And no, it's just curiosity. :D I'm very interested in the spectrum & how it works. No, I don't think I'm AS. My symptoms don't fit that well with AS, for one thing; my ability to learn is still bellow my age even now as it isn't with aspergers is it? I do think though that speech deley doesn't always change the fact weather your AS or Classic. I think you can have AS, but still have a speech deley & I think you can hace CA & noty have a speech de;ey, although that doesn't usually aply.



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11 Aug 2011, 6:02 pm

hans aspergers original papers described children who' speech was precocious but had delayed fine motor dexterity.kanners children had precoscious motor dexterity but had a delay or no speech.there are many ppd-nos disoders out there but you cant have a delay in speech and have aspergers.read autistischen psychopaten im kindesalter by hans asperger


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11 Aug 2011, 6:19 pm

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My symptoms don't fit that well with AS, for one thing; my ability to learn is still bellow my age even now as it isn't with aspergers is it?


Nah, I don't think so. Aspergians may struggle with learning disability as much as people with classic autism.



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11 Aug 2011, 6:20 pm

AlexWelshman wrote:
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Can you have aspergers but not be high functioning?


I think Aspergers, by definition, is on the high-functioning end of the spectrum. That being said, high-functioning does NOT mean mild, and there can be people with very mild Aspergers and those with severe Aspergers.
Can aspergers ever impact your life like autism & can it ever mean you can't take buses or be fairly independent. I mean of course with still having the basics.


I can't tell how how severe it gets but I can tell you what it is for me.

I can't drive. I can take public transit, though depending on the situation might have issues (cigarette smoke is a migraine trigger).

I am mostly independent but can't fully take care of myself. Monetarily I'm working on finding employment and will need accommodations. I can't clean everything in my apartment but I can do my part and have my boyfriend just always be the one cleaning specific things. I can cook if given explicit directions or otherwise am following a recipe, but can't figure out how to combine ingredients on my own. I have what feels like emotional meltdowns (overwhelming racing thoughts that I can't identify but are negative) about 3 times a week.



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11 Aug 2011, 6:33 pm

PDD-NOS is the most common form of autism.



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11 Aug 2011, 6:39 pm

Where does any manual say that Asperger's automatically means high functioning? I did not have a speech delay, and many clinicians would diagnose me with AS. But, I have more severe issues, more pervasive issues, than many with autistic disorder. The only thing AS means is that the person did not have a delay in speech, self help skills, or lack of curiosity about the environment (I did have the latter two). AS does NOT mean HF.