Do others "fear" you because of your intelligence?
Mummy_of_Peanut
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Lazy is lazy, whether you get A's or F's. And when somebody gets an A without working while you're working your butt off to get a B, it naturally does feel unjust. I think I'd get mad, too, seeing somebody just sitting there and smoking when they've got a good brain they should be doing something with.
In high school I was often the person who got A's without trying; but I didn't feel particularly proud of the ones I didn't work hard for. The things I was proud of--my writing, learning about physics, programming computers--were the things I did work hard on. And back then, I was pretty horrible at programming computers; I had these BASIC programs just riddled with GOTO's, because I didn't know any better...
I'm one of those people who got As without studing, in fact I got a degree that way. But, I wasn't lazy, I just couldn't study. Until recently, I'd no idea what my problem with reading and/or studying was. I know I have concentration problems and I've been pointed in the direction of hyperlexia, by a WP member. However, I always managed to have the aura of a swot, so I would never have enraged anybody.
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Lazy is lazy, whether you get A's or F's. And when somebody gets an A without working while you're working your butt off to get a B, it naturally does feel unjust. I think I'd get mad, too, seeing somebody just sitting there and smoking when they've got a good brain they should be doing something with.
In high school I was often the person who got A's without trying; but I didn't feel particularly proud of the ones I didn't work hard for. The things I was proud of--my writing, learning about physics, programming computers--were the things I did work hard on. And back then, I was pretty horrible at programming computers; I had these BASIC programs just riddled with GOTO's, because I didn't know any better...
School never meant anything to me. Nobody ever praised me if I did well anyway, I just caught all kinds of hell if I screwed up. I never had a reason to strive to take stupid AP classes. AP classes were full of morons who didn't know how to learn anyhow. All they did is study their asses off(cram the night before the test), then take the test, and throw all the knowledge out the window as soon as the test was over. They never actually learned anything, they didn't retain it. I saw it all through my 4 years of German. Nobody took German for more than 2 years except the kids in honors and AP(and me cuz I actually wanted to speak german) classes, and those very same kids struggled with simple things we learned the first and second years. I didn't take honors and AP because at my school all it meant was more pointless work. That, and I never had a desire to go to college. I never cared what grades I got either, as long as I passed my classes so I didn't have to go thru the hell that is highschool any longer than I already had to.
And don't give me the potential speech, I've heard it a billion times from various teachers, and it's a crock. I have the potential to do lots of things, like walk into a building full of crowded people and start popping off rounds from an AK-47. Does that mean I should do it? Hell no, and I wouldn't. But my point is just cuz you have potential to do something, it doesn't mean you should.
Also, I fail to see how smoking pot before a test makes one lazy. If that's what helps him to do better, then he's preparing for the test, and thus not being lazy. Different strokes for different folks, ya know?
"You think too much!"
If I only had a nickel for every time I've heard it.
I just learned to be happy with who I am, dating many women, many of whom told me the same things you've heard. No problem. I wasn't "meant" to be with any of them. Eventually, I met a woman who wasn't intimidated by the bizarre things I think about. I married her almost sixteen years ago. We have three kids now, all on the spectrum, and we're pretty sure she is on the spectrum too. Her brother is so the chances are we're right about that.
When we met neither of us knew much about Autism, but we both sensed a connection unlike any other we had ever sensed before in previous relationships.
Now we know what it is.
Keep looking.
EDIT: There's a lot of folks, male and female, not directly on the spectrum that appreciate the way we think, so I'm not suggesting necessarily to look only for women on the spectrum. There's a lot who are near enough to it. Just keep moving on until you find what you're looking for. Better to wait for one that fits than settle for one that doesn't. I've done that too, by the way. Married and divorced her in just over a year. A waste of time.
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Maybe you need to start hanging around smarter women...Or maybe you are coming on too strong. If someone says something dumb or illogical in your presence, you don't have to correct the person. A lot of people, especially women, are uncomfortable with intellectual debates and prefer peace and harmony, I think. Some people get angry if you point out logical flaws in their beliefs.
I think that most of the time casual aquaintances won't say these things to you unless you are getting on their nerves.
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happydorkgirl
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My therapist told me the other day that I can come off as a very intimidating individual due to my intelligence.
This shocked the hell out of me. I've always worked hard at being very down-to-earth and colloquial. I seem to know that that's what I should be but I apparently fail at it.
People "fear" me because of my temper, lack of facial expression, and occasional public stimming.
They just find me annoying when I correct them when they say brainless things.
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I have sometimes been called a "bully" or accused of harassment for pointing out the flaws in my coworkers' presentations; flaws like false data, errors in reasoning, assumptions, and guesswork. I know that people don't like to have their mistakes pointed out in front of others, but if they would just check their work beforehand (or ask me to do it for them), then they would stand a lesser of a chance of being embarrassed in front of everybody else.
But no, they know what they're doing, they don't need my help, and they really don't care about what I have to say ... or so they tell me before they inevitably embarrass themselves in front of the higher-ups.
Afterwards, they're too concerned with trying to come up with believable excuses (e.g., "Plausible Deniability") to actually correct their mistakes.
... and then they wonder why their yearly reviews are not "Outstanding" ...
I wouldn't say people fear me because of my intelligence, but I've been told it is somewhat intimidating- especially the fact that I seem to have an encyclopedic knowledge and could probably answer most questions or find an answer pretty quickly. I am now the unofficial genius at work that people come to if they want to know anything!
I also think that I can be intimidating when I correct people, as I do it very bluntly, and really need to be more diplomatic...
The fact that I'm intelligent frustrates me as other people don't get things so quickly- I think that my reaction to this is what gets to most people.
The thing is though, this is partly what means I have few friends and no boyfriend: can't cope with my intelligence, the way I correct people, and the way I presume people understand what I'm talking about because I understand it.
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Their acinine insistence on discrimination thwarts everyone's interests.
It's an inescapable dychotomy meant to convict us.
If we show our intelligence, we are feared.
If we feign a lack of intelligence to bypass this,
we are considdered deceptive, even Machiavellian.
Everything in my personal life experience suggests that
stupidity is not the antithesis of intelligence - romance is.
My aggressively analytical wit forever negates the love I wish I could obtain,
even if all other variables were surmountable.
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I don't know if fear is the word, but people get intimidated when a guy who can picture what he wants, solve problems in his head and sits down in front of a computer - and a few hours later there is a solution to the problem.
Normal people are too busy with their personal lives and generally do not excel at much. If you are really "on fire" for something, you are seen as a threat to them, and they say "No, it cannot be done" or "it will take too long". Just ignore these opinions and do what you do best: excel at stuff they will never be good at.
And surround yourself with creative people who see the possibilities instead of people who, in fact, whine about how stupid they are.
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i do not think so. i do not have sufficient intelligence to scare people i would think.
however, i have one friend called "sonia" who is bi-polar, and she sometimes develops serious paranoia's based on her delusion that i am always "one step ahead of her", and i somehow lead her into humiliation.
i have distanced myself now from her, and she does not know where i live.
she still rings me every few weeks, but she is unstable and i do not want to interact with her any more in real life.
but everyone else i know has no problem with me as far as i know.
people just tend to leave me to my own devices because they see i am working my way through my day, and they let me get on with it.
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It is my experience that some people are intimidated by intelligence (I find intelligence fascinating)
- Men can be especially intimidated by intelligence in a woman!
In my case I think what people dislike the most in me is my bluntness and lack of social finesse
- I suppose it could be interpreted as 'contempt' (which is sometimes the case) which can be quite intimidating - or at least uncomfortable
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