The fifth column

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I agree. It's not NT's who administer daily beatings to werbert's family, it's werbert himself who does. And It's not NT's who make fun of werbert's sister for being fat, it's werbert.

Thanks for the comments.
I certainly meant the use of those words to be a little provocative. What I see is an attitude from many people "Hey, we treat 'them' good now. Why are 'they' still complaining?" and it's just as offensive as always. It seems that any considerations from the masses for a specific group of people are paid for over and over by the people the 'good intentions' are meant to help and the people themselves are never truly accepted.

I wish it was not so.

I can't see how any law, or any awareness program, or anything else, would do me any good at all. I don't have problems getting into buildings, or reading signs, or hearing TV programs, or any of the other problems disability programs are geared toward solving.

I'm a person who appears normal and superficially acts normal, but the only style of interacting with other people I am capable of is repulsive to other people. I don't like green beans, and no law or awareness program is going to make me enjoy eating them. I already know they're good for me, I still don't like eating them.

For certain types of jobs, it might be possible to communicate only in writing and never have anybody see me. I can imagine telling this to a potential employer who has a waiting room full of people who can get along with others and contribute to the smooth running of the operation.

I've often managed to get along at least ok with the people I work with, but what about that other problem, what I do when I'm not at work, spending every weekend wishing monday would hurry up, so I could at least be somewhat in the same situation as everybody else for a few hours?

You gonna pass a law requiring people to be my friend? You gonna pass a law requiring people to respect me? You gonna pass a law requiring people to find me attractive, or fun to talk to?

I'd like to see things different. I'd stand up for it. Please tell me exactly what you have in mind that I'm supposed to be standing up for.

I've never seen one of us tar and feather the other for pointing out the elephant in the room the NTs are trying desperately hard to ignore.

Its something we're usually the only ones to do and people benefit from it.. but oh you should see the looks of scorn and hate and possiblity of losing your job that comes with it.

Society needs people who think differently and benefits from it but also likes to lynch those same people because they are different.

Im not talking about "oh noes they are being mean to me" Im talking about "I tried to give a guy a compliment and he took it wrong then hit me in the head with a crowbar now Im paralyzed on my left side".

Serious? I'm very sorry to hear that happened to you. But surely you don't think that someone hitting you with a crowbar in response to a compliment taken the wrong way (or even a deliberate insult) is normal NT behaviour. That guy has problems and I hope he is rotting in jail.

Ah no that didnt really happen to me it was just as an example (though I did hear a true story of something similar occuring not too long ago).

But my point was that NTs expect to be dealing with another NT and when we dont act the way they expect they end up completely misunderstanding the situation.. and yes it often results in violence.

Thats a bit... extreme


THEN I would support a revolution >.<##########

Ill never support a revolution to conquer, but Ill always support one to liberate.

I'm ripped in two about this issue; on the one hand: I can't really see much of a future for myself amongst NT's, so my natural instinct is to want to be with my own kind (who doesn't?).

But then what? (I haven't the faintest clue.)

This is my Island






have you heard the last one? Werbert's sister is so fat that...
just kidding hehe

If it's going to work, it has to be founded around a religion for tax purposes (does anyone here care to write up a new religion?). We should model the communities on the pockets of Orthodox Jews around the country who manage to move into towns and essentially take over segments of the local government. For instance if we could take over the local school board, we could vote to have property taxes lowered, allowing us to purchase more real estate for housing. Of course our kids would go to our private (tax free) religious schools, so the quality of the local schools wouldn't affect us. The Orthodox Jewish communities are expert at garnering as much governmental subsidy as possible from the "system" while maintaining autonomy over the community. We should try to do the same.

It is fun to think about in theory.

I'm inclined to agree that the Aspie Superiority thing is a bit much, and that we'd get on each other's last nerves like you would not believe. Though I do think that there are probably some things we can do as a community that would be worthwhile, either for us or the world in general.

Also, you don't want to set it up as a religion, because then you run into federal guidelines about what you can and cannot do. There are other 501(c)3 organizations than religions.

I think an island, country or city is a bad idea. We are not adapted to living in such communities and would indeed get on each others nerves and start to fight. A much better idea is to form small communities. These communities should be largely independent, but could still be clustered together in some region.

One big problem, especially with the religion / take-over idea, is that it would not work. Jews are experts in the social realm, and so are any other religous group. Our biggest problem would be with organization. Just look at how CAN have managed to infiltrate the US government to spend $1 billion on their research programs!

Unfortunately, I think we need NTs for any organizational issues we might want to do, or at least Aspies that have these traits (they don't seem to be in large supply).

There are some excellent ideas of companies starting up in Sweden and Denmark that only hire Aspies. These companies builds on know strengths of Aspies, and uses "coaches" to deal with customers. This idea should be applicable to other countries as well.

Well I have a dream of starting a company that could hire alot of aspies. I want to
do a computer animation. But untill I do something myself and make some money thats not going to happen.(I'm in the US Texas). ADHD has given me creativity but killed my work ethic.

I think people were talking about breaking away from current political institutions completely. Not subject to British rule, American rule, or any other external rule. Therefore not subject to any external taxes either.