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01 Nov 2011, 8:18 pm

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Do you mind me asking what kind of business you are planning?

Unless it is a dangerous business (like trading diamonds) or located in a dangerous area, you probably won't need a bodyguard. Many places you can safely walk around in NYC at any hour as long as you're wearing the proper attitude and are aware of your surroundings. Still other places in NYC, you could get shot in broad daylight with people all around you and they would walk around your body. That's why it is important to learn about the place a little before jumping in.

Most people get around the city without a driver pretty easily, there's a lot of ways to get around and you may not even need to go out of your neighborhood for anything other than the occasional business meetings and entertainment.

There are lots of apartments with office suites built in for rent, or buildings that have apartments and conference rooms that the residents can use for business. You would also not be the first person to live in their office if you went that route :)

It'll be an advertisement company, it's not an original idea but i'm using a plan that's original and that's why it'll work :-) and do you think that i'll find an office space for 4000 people?


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01 Nov 2011, 8:54 pm

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It'll be an advertisement company, it's not an original idea but i'm using a plan that's original and that's why it'll work :-) and do you think that i'll find an office space for 4000 people?


If you truly have financing and professional advisors for an operation of that magnitude, you wouldn't be on WP asking questions like these.


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01 Nov 2011, 8:55 pm

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It'll be an advertisement company, it's not an original idea but i'm using a plan that's original and that's why it'll work :-) and do you think that i'll find an office space for 4000 people?


If you truly have financing and professional advisors for an operation of that magnitude, you wouldn't be on WP asking questions like these.

Why wouldn't i? i asked advice on New York, not on money or how i have to start a business. my advisors aren't aspies either.


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01 Nov 2011, 8:58 pm

Well advertising is an industry that is big in NYC so you won't hurt for talent. You are going to work hard to break into that industry for sure though! There are lots of office spaces that could handle 4000 people ( 8 million+ people live in NYC and many more than that work there, and some of the largest companies in the world are headquartered there). You would have no trouble finding a space like that, but it may cost more than you expect depending on what kind of building services are included, where it is located etc. The traditional Ad agencies are located on Madison & 5th Ave which is prestigious but very high rent. A lot of startups are located in SoHo & other neighborhoods where it's a little bit cheaper.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:01 pm

Move in advice is similar to moving to any city - find a place to stay in a nice, safe neighborhood. Don't get scammed by Craigslist, suspicious moving companies, etc. As a newcomer, people can and will take advantage of your ignorance and lack of insider knowledge about NYC.

Now for the good and bad about NYC (in no particular order):

Bad: very cold winters; very very hot and humid summers; rats; bedbugs; homeless people; noisy (especially if you will be living in Manhattan, you might need earplugs to sleep at night); people are always in a hurry; jaywalkers; potholes; traffic; crowded; expensive (you will likely be living in a much smaller place); tourists; old; piles and piles of garbage

Good: diversity; food; schools; jobs; night life; 24/7 city (but this can also be bad - see above about noise); art and culture; public transportation; proximity to other large northeast cities; major airports / transportation hub; startup companies

Personally, the good things about NYC can be found in most major US cities but not the bad. Overall, if I were in your position, I would probably choose another big city, perhaps San Francisco or Seattle since there seems to be large start-up scene in those cities, and the climate is a lot more hospitable too.

Edit: I thought you were starting a software company. Since you are in advertising/marketing, NYC might be better, but I am not familiar with the industry so I have no clue.



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01 Nov 2011, 9:01 pm

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Well advertising is an industry that is big in NYC so you won't hurt for talent. You are going to work hard to break into that industry for sure though! There are lots of office spaces that could handle 4000 people ( 8 million+ people live in NYC and many more than that work there, and some of the largest companies in the world are headquartered there). You would have no trouble finding a space like that, but it may cost more than you expect depending on what kind of building services are included, where it is located etc. The traditional Ad agencies are located on Madison & 5th Ave which is prestigious but very high rent. A lot of startups are located in SoHo & other neighborhoods where it's a little bit cheaper.

Thanks :D i'm aiming to take over all advertisement companies in NYC cause when i arrive they'll be out of work quickly.
can you pm me your facebook or email? you seem to know lots of things that will help me.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:04 pm

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Move in advice is similar to moving to any city - find a place to stay in a nice, safe neighborhood. Don't get scammed by Craigslist, suspicious moving companies, etc. As a newcomer, people can and will take advantage of your ignorance and lack of insider knowledge about NYC.

Now for the good and bad about NYC (in no particular order):

Bad: very cold winters; very very hot and humid summers; rats; bedbugs; homeless people; noisy (especially if you will be living in Manhattan, you might need earplugs to sleep at night); people are always in a hurry; jaywalkers; potholes; traffic; crowded; expensive (you will likely be living in a much smaller place); tourists; old; piles and piles of garbage

Good: diversity; food; schools; jobs; night life; 24/7 city (but this can also be bad - see above about noise); art and culture; public transportation; proximity to other large northeast cities; major airports / transportation hub; startup companies

Personally, the good things about NYC can be found in most major US cities but not the bad. Overall, if I were in your position, I would probably choose another big city, perhaps San Francisco or Seattle since there seems to be large start-up scene in those cities, and the climate is a lot more hospitable too.

Thank You :D to me New York is the perfect place cause it's usually where people expect the best of the best, it's sort of a strategic choice that might make me grow quicker then any other city. i'm not going to be living there all the time when it's working fine so i won't be sick of the city that fast.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:10 pm

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Thanks :D i'm aiming to take over all advertisement companies in NYC cause when i arrive they'll be out of work quickly. can you pm me your facebook or email? you seem to know lots of things that will help me.


OK now, I'm trying not to laugh... you can't be serious. You're either delusional or trolling or just joking around with us. You want to take over ALL ad companies in NYC and you will put ALL of them out of business? Yeah... Sure... I though you said you only had millions not billions... OK, this thread isn't serious any more...



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01 Nov 2011, 9:12 pm

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Thanks :D i'm aiming to take over all advertisement companies in NYC cause when i arrive they'll be out of work quickly. can you pm me your facebook or email? you seem to know lots of things that will help me.


OK now, I'm trying not to laugh... you can't be serious. You're either delusional or trolling or just joking around with us. You want to take over ALL ad companies in NYC and you will put all ALL of them out of business? Yeah... Sure... I though you said you only had millions not billions... OK, this thread isn't serious any more...

You don't need billions to do that, i recommend you investigating the advertisement business a bit more before you tell me i'm trolling.
i only asked advice on moving to New York not on how i'm going to do business alright? you made your point, time to leave.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:17 pm

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Thanks :D i'm aiming to take over all advertisement companies in NYC cause when i arrive they'll be out of work quickly. can you pm me your facebook or email? you seem to know lots of things that will help me.


OK now, I'm trying not to laugh... you can't be serious. You're either delusional or trolling or just joking around with us. You want to take over ALL ad companies in NYC and you will put all ALL of them out of business? Yeah... Sure... I though you said you only had millions not billions... OK, this thread isn't serious any more...

You don't need billions to do that, i recommend you investigating the advertisement business a bit more before you tell me i'm trolling.
i only asked advice on moving to New York not on how i'm going to do business alright? you made your point, time to leave.


Good luck man. You certainly dream big.



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01 Nov 2011, 9:19 pm

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Thanks :D i'm aiming to take over all advertisement companies in NYC cause when i arrive they'll be out of work quickly. can you pm me your facebook or email? you seem to know lots of things that will help me.


OK now, I'm trying not to laugh... you can't be serious. You're either delusional or trolling or just joking around with us. You want to take over ALL ad companies in NYC and you will put all ALL of them out of business? Yeah... Sure... I though you said you only had millions not billions... OK, this thread isn't serious any more...

You don't need billions to do that, i recommend you investigating the advertisement business a bit more before you tell me i'm trolling.
i only asked advice on moving to New York not on how i'm going to do business alright? you made your point, time to leave.


Good luck man. You certainly dream big.

Thanks :-) everything starts with a dream.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:45 pm

I will PM you with my email, but you need to understand that I have only told you some very general things about NYC that anyone who lives in this area knows. I am not an expert in any of them. Others here have also given you some great advice that you may be missing because of the way it's said sounds kind of like a challenge. In particular, AdamDZ has some very valid and true points and is somewhat typical of the type of people and attitude you will encounter in NYC. Skepticism is an artform here and you will be challenged in his same unvarnished manner in all areas of your life from getting a sandwich to renting office space. You should get to know him a little. He likely has better advice than I do on neighborhoods having lived in the city for over 20 years and knowing it more intimately. Don't be put off by how he speaks his mind freely, that's common here. You have to be tough and skeptical to survive the scammers that are everywhere and 20+ years of it makes you not very shy about saying it like it is :) Most of the people who are really polite and nice to you in NYC are just trying to get something from you. Adam seems like a down to earth guy to me who is trying to help you too. Don't miss the opportunity just because he asks you to justify your position. Saffron, Angelknight and Fiooo also have lived in NYC and you should be asking all of these people for any specifics you want to know about NYC. It's a huge place with many kinds of people, you will need to meet lots of different kinds of people to get where you are going.


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01 Nov 2011, 9:51 pm

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I will PM you with my email, but you need to understand that I have only told you some very general things about NYC that anyone who lives in this area knows. I am not an expert in any of them. Others here have also given you some great advice that you may be missing because of the way it's said sounds kind of like a challenge. In particular, AdamDZ has some very valid and true points and is somewhat typical of the type of people and attitude you will encounter in NYC. Skepticism is an artform here and you will be challenged in his same unvarnished manner in all areas of your life from getting a sandwich to renting office space. You should get to know him a little. He likely has better advice than I do on neighborhoods having lived in the city for over 20 years and knowing it more intimately. Don't be put off by how he speaks his mind freely, that's common here. You have to be tough and skeptical to survive the scammers that are everywhere and 20+ years of it makes you not very shy about saying it like it is :) Most of the people who are really polite and nice to you in NYC are just trying to get something from you. Adam seems like a down to earth guy to me who is trying to help you too. Don't miss the opportunity just because he asks you to justify your position. Saffron, Angelknight and Fiooo also have lived in NYC and you should be asking all of these people for any specifics you want to know about NYC. It's a huge place with many kinds of people, you will need to meet lots of different kinds of people to get where you are going.

I took their advice :-) i'm not mad at him in anyway i just learned myself to not surround myself with people who drag me down, i respect his opinion very much. thanks for everything, you wrote pages of advice to me :P


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01 Nov 2011, 10:01 pm

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There are plenty of better places to start a business IMO. The US is an inexpensive country, but New York City is a big exception. Most of the businesses there are already well-established, and entry costs are high. I don't know what your business is, but New York is more services friendly. Anything involving goods is expensive, as New York's extreme density and ageing infrastructure make shipping into and out of the city a chore. That's why NYC is the only city where most people travel by rail, because having a car there is very difficult. Taxes in NYC are also the highest in the nation.

That said, you may be comfortable starting in NYC because it's a city full of immigrants. Immigrants live everywhere in this country, but no where has more nationalities than NYC. If you wish to maintain ties to Belgium, see if other Belgian expats (or even Flemish or Walloons) have a society. NYC is also a great city to practice English in, as a lot of people there are learning. Most of the nation does not tolerate anything less than perfect English, except Spanish speakers in some parts.

Personally, I am convinced that the next economic growth engines are cities in the "Rust Belt." I just read the other day that you can rent a small office in Pittsburgh for $15 (and it wasn't bad at all, either). Even Detroit is bound to pick up because everything there is so cheap now. I'm thinking of moving to those cities once the economy picks up a little.
Thanks for your input :D i don't wanna stay connected to Belgium cause i hate the place so that's not an issue. my English is also better then my Dutch. i am mostly worried about my safety :P

Don't be. NYC has the lowest crime rate of any major city in the U.S. I'm sure certain neighborhoods are still bad, and it's always a good idea to be aware of your surroundings. In general, though, the city is far safer than it ever has been, and certainly safer than where I live (DC area).

What will be your business? Are you authorized to work in the U.S?



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01 Nov 2011, 10:08 pm

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There are plenty of better places to start a business IMO. The US is an inexpensive country, but New York City is a big exception. Most of the businesses there are already well-established, and entry costs are high. I don't know what your business is, but New York is more services friendly. Anything involving goods is expensive, as New York's extreme density and ageing infrastructure make shipping into and out of the city a chore. That's why NYC is the only city where most people travel by rail, because having a car there is very difficult. Taxes in NYC are also the highest in the nation.

That said, you may be comfortable starting in NYC because it's a city full of immigrants. Immigrants live everywhere in this country, but no where has more nationalities than NYC. If you wish to maintain ties to Belgium, see if other Belgian expats (or even Flemish or Walloons) have a society. NYC is also a great city to practice English in, as a lot of people there are learning. Most of the nation does not tolerate anything less than perfect English, except Spanish speakers in some parts.

Personally, I am convinced that the next economic growth engines are cities in the "Rust Belt." I just read the other day that you can rent a small office in Pittsburgh for $15 (and it wasn't bad at all, either). Even Detroit is bound to pick up because everything there is so cheap now. I'm thinking of moving to those cities once the economy picks up a little.
Thanks for your input :D i don't wanna stay connected to Belgium cause i hate the place so that's not an issue. my English is also better then my Dutch. i am mostly worried about my safety :P

Don't be. NYC has the lowest crime rate of any major city in the U.S. I'm sure certain neighborhoods are still bad, and it's always a good idea to be aware of your surroundings. In general, though, the city is far safer than it ever has been, and certainly safer than where I live (DC area).

What will be your business? Are you authorized to work in the U.S?

It will be an advertisement business, i haven't applied for employment authorization documents yet. i'm gonna do that soon.


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01 Nov 2011, 10:19 pm

Have you ever been In a big city before? I remeber the one time I was in one, the sheer amount of sensory input was overwhelming, be prepared of bright signs, brightly dressed people, talking, car horns, tall buildings and a thousand other things at once. Personally I would lose it if I tried living there, but I can think of one positive. With all the people, it's easier to go unnoticed and not have to talk to people.