For those who see autism as a difference and not a disorder:

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04 Nov 2011, 7:40 pm

I've been studiously reading up on the history of the DSM manuals and an important cultural aspect note from DSMIII onwards is that impairment in the context of a western society does not equate directly to social impairment in non-western societies.

Western societies are basically "individualistic" where independence is encouraged and reliance on others is discouraged. In this environment people on the spectrum struggle without help.

In contrast Asian and African societies tend to be "collectivist" and developmental disorders may be (perhaps) be better accommodated under the protective umbrella of the extended family?



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04 Nov 2011, 10:48 pm

Callista wrote:
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The rationale of giving diagnosis in the medical profession is to give people the right types of treatment. Given this premise, do you think autism/aspergers should be removed from the DSM?
No. Autism is both a difference and a disorder.
I was gonna say the exact same thing.



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05 Nov 2011, 1:24 am

In my opinion it is a difference, a rare and exceptionally valuable one. They have found a way to narrowly classify this. I think when a certain aspect of aspieness is taken to an extreme it becomes a disorder. Maybe something wired in the brain is outright cut or something like that it becomes full blown autism. Really you could probably take any aspect to an extreme or outright shut it off and it will cause a major malfunction. I think everyone (NT's) could be classified as having some kind of syndrome, just no ones figured out how to do it yet.
Maybe because aspies are rare the is no built in social coping mechanism like NT's have.



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05 Nov 2011, 5:46 am

Autism is a difference, and the difference can be a disorder.

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05 Nov 2011, 6:09 am

I think it's both as Callista has said. But I think it's a difference for high functioning people (people high functioning like Temple Grandin) but it's still a disorder too for them.



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05 Nov 2011, 7:49 am

A disorder is scary and a difference is challenging.
Its good to have a balance of both I think.


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05 Nov 2011, 8:16 am

twich wrote:
Autism is a DIFFERENCE in the way your brain is wired. If this doesn't make it a DISORDER because your brain isn't wired like the typical one, causing several problems in several areas of life, I don't know what a disorder is anymore. Having such deficits is definitely something that needs attention and treatment, though, so taking it out of the DSM would be a bad thing.

Just because there are bad things attached to disorders, doesn't mean there aren't good things, either. I think people are so hell bent on "Not having a disorder" because they can only focus on their negative traits.. EVERYONE has negative traits, NT's, too. We're not all that different, so stop calling it a difference.


Just my opinion.


I look at it as a disability/disorder. I don't feel different to everybody else, because everybody has their own unique persona about them. I just feel socially and intellectually slower than the average people, and find it is a strain to keep up.


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05 Nov 2011, 5:08 pm

Autism is a disorder and a difference, by definition.
A difference that doesn't cause a disorder, is not Autism. That's the way I understood DSM. Otherwise, I should have a diagnosis too, since I'm sure I'm not normal. My son has a diagnosis because his difference causes a disorder.