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21 Nov 2011, 9:19 pm

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those are symptoms of associated genes. they do not cause autism. come on lets read the article and get it right. miscommunications like this get people angry and only serve to create pointless arguments, of which there are many on this forum.


It is a question. It isn't saying that the article is true, it is asking THEIR opinion about that article. I like to gain insight of other researchers about other current theories.

If I wanted your opinion about it, I would have asked you.

i was pointing out to you you that the article did not say what you said :lol: i will restate what i said, epilepsy and gi issues don't cause autism, they are on the same related genetic markers, so they can coexist. there is a big difference between causation and association. if you put your opinion on a forum anybody can reply to it without your permission. if you didn't want to be criticized then you should have communicated by pm.



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21 Nov 2011, 9:21 pm

> They aren't saying that VPA is a cause, they used rats exposed to VPA because they displayed autistic traits.

Ah, ok (back to reading...)



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21 Nov 2011, 9:24 pm

aspie48 wrote:
SC_2010 wrote:
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those are symptoms of associated genes. they do not cause autism. come on lets read the article and get it right. miscommunications like this get people angry and only serve to create pointless arguments, of which there are many on this forum.


It is a question. It isn't saying that the article is true, it is asking THEIR opinion about that article. I like to gain insight of other researchers about other current theories.

If I wanted your opinion about it, I would have asked you.

i was pointing out to you you that the article did not say what you said :lol: i will restate what i said, epilepsy and gi issues don't cause autism, they are on the same related genetic markers, so they can coexist. there is a big difference between causation and association. if you put your opinion on a forum anybody can reply to it without your permission. if you didn't want to be criticized then you should have communicated by pm.


I'm asking questions on their opinions about those topics. I'm not saying they are a cause or not a cause. I'm saying that others believe that they might be. I think it is important to ask them their thoughts on the topic to gain their insight into current beliefs and theories.

This thread is to ask questions that we have. It is not to judge someone else's questions or start debates.



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21 Nov 2011, 9:36 pm

SC_2010 wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
SC_2010 wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
those are symptoms of associated genes. they do not cause autism. come on lets read the article and get it right. miscommunications like this get people angry and only serve to create pointless arguments, of which there are many on this forum.


It is a question. It isn't saying that the article is true, it is asking THEIR opinion about that article. I like to gain insight of other researchers about other current theories.

If I wanted your opinion about it, I would have asked you.

i was pointing out to you you that the article did not say what you said :lol: i will restate what i said, epilepsy and gi issues don't cause autism, they are on the same related genetic markers, so they can coexist. there is a big difference between causation and association. if you put your opinion on a forum anybody can reply to it without your permission. if you didn't want to be criticized then you should have communicated by pm.


I'm asking questions on their opinions about those topics. I'm not saying they are a cause or not a cause. I'm saying that others believe that they might be. I think it is important to ask them their thoughts on the topic to gain their insight into current beliefs and theories.

This thread is to ask questions that we have. It is not to judge someone else's questions or start debates.
i did not see the sign or warning against debate. i was simply letting you know the article you cited did not correspond to the views you expressed in your questions.



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21 Nov 2011, 9:54 pm

aspie48 wrote:
SC_2010 wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
SC_2010 wrote:
aspie48 wrote:
those are symptoms of associated genes. they do not cause autism. come on lets read the article and get it right. miscommunications like this get people angry and only serve to create pointless arguments, of which there are many on this forum.


It is a question. It isn't saying that the article is true, it is asking THEIR opinion about that article. I like to gain insight of other researchers about other current theories.

If I wanted your opinion about it, I would have asked you.

i was pointing out to you you that the article did not say what you said :lol: i will restate what i said, epilepsy and gi issues don't cause autism, they are on the same related genetic markers, so they can coexist. there is a big difference between causation and association. if you put your opinion on a forum anybody can reply to it without your permission. if you didn't want to be criticized then you should have communicated by pm.


I'm asking questions on their opinions about those topics. I'm not saying they are a cause or not a cause. I'm saying that others believe that they might be. I think it is important to ask them their thoughts on the topic to gain their insight into current beliefs and theories.

This thread is to ask questions that we have. It is not to judge someone else's questions or start debates.
i did not see the sign or warning against debate. i was simply letting you know the article you cited did not correspond to the views you expressed in your questions.


Are you uppity about my use of the word "linked" ?? Linked meaning that immune signaling in that study was found to be correlated to ASD networks. I didn't say anywhere that it caused autism. I simply want to know what they think about the possibility of immunity issues playing a part of autism.



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21 Nov 2011, 9:59 pm

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7) How can this theory explain high rates of epilepsy in autistic individuals?

This is just a guess and maybe I shouldn't answer but wait for the question to be answered in the article, but I'm really interested in the connection between autism and epilepsy.

Epilepsy is essentially an over excitation of neurotransmitters in the brain and an irregular firing off of them; I like to imagine this as a scrambled up jigsaw puzzle. So, this hyperactive states of the brain theory might make some sense.
I suppose I should say epilepsy is the reoccurring over excitation of neurotransmitters, there are other seizure disorders that aren't epilepsy because they are kind of one off triggered by stress or drugs.

I'll have to look into this more. I'm so very interested in it.


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22 Nov 2011, 1:55 am

I contacted an artist to provide a visual interpretation of Intense World Theory which will accompany the interview on the homepage of Wrong Planet. Here is a sneak peek...

http://kavehadel.com/blog/2011/11/adven ... aveh-adel/

Pretty freakin' cool, huh?


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22 Nov 2011, 1:58 am

Tambourine-Man wrote:
I contacted an artist to provide a visual interpretation of Intense World Theory which will accompany the interview on the homepage of Wrong Planet. Here is a sneak peek...

http://kavehadel.com/blog/2011/11/adven ... aveh-adel/

Pretty freakin' cool, huh?


Um, awesome!! !



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22 Nov 2011, 2:01 am

Tambourine-Man wrote:
I contacted an artist to provide a visual interpretation of Intense World Theory which will accompany the interview on the homepage of Wrong Planet. Here is a sneak peek...

http://kavehadel.com/blog/2011/11/adven ... aveh-adel/

Pretty freakin' cool, huh?

I love the colours! Especially the green coming out of the mouth of the person speaking. And the spit. Or what I imagine to be spit.


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22 Nov 2011, 2:14 am

pensieve wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
I contacted an artist to provide a visual interpretation of Intense World Theory which will accompany the interview on the homepage of Wrong Planet. Here is a sneak peek...

http://kavehadel.com/blog/2011/11/adven ... aveh-adel/

Pretty freakin' cool, huh?

I love the colours! Especially the green coming out of the mouth of the person speaking. And the spit. Or what I imagine to be spit.


I know Shanti! It's like a dark, twisted, elegant, hilarious, and profound cartoon! I couldn't have hoped for anything better!


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22 Nov 2011, 2:24 am

Tambourine-Man wrote:
pensieve wrote:
Tambourine-Man wrote:
I contacted an artist to provide a visual interpretation of Intense World Theory which will accompany the interview on the homepage of Wrong Planet. Here is a sneak peek...

http://kavehadel.com/blog/2011/11/adven ... aveh-adel/

Pretty freakin' cool, huh?

I love the colours! Especially the green coming out of the mouth of the person speaking. And the spit. Or what I imagine to be spit.


I know Shanti! It's like a dark, twisted, elegant, hilarious, and profound cartoon! I couldn't have hoped for anything better!


Yes, it's a beautiful cartoon. I'm certain the article will be great!


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22 Nov 2011, 12:34 pm

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I have a challenging question for them. Perhaps it is a bit silly, but I really want it answered:

According your theory, many Autistics share similar hyper-perception, similar hyper-attention, similar hyper-memory and similar hyper-emotionality, right?
If so, then many Autistics should be able to communicate with each other extremely well, right?
If so, then why does the Autistic community have even more disagreements than most communities do?
Why aren't we seeing a much more harmonious Autistic community?


If I find other questions for them, I will post them to this thread.


I don't agree with the assumption that the autistic community has more disagreements than other communities.



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22 Nov 2011, 12:40 pm

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The proposed neuropathology is hyper-functioning of local neural microcircuits, best characterized by hyper-reactivity and hyper-plasticity. Such hyper-functional microcircuits are speculated to become autonomous and memory trapped leading to the core cognitive consequences of hyper-perception, hyper-attention, hyper-memory and hyper-emotionality.


Are you sure they are not studying ADHD? I'm starting to spazz just reading about how hyper everything is. All of a sudden I'm totally hyped for X-TREME SCIENCE!

Lacking that, would they like to borrow a thesaurus?

Um...but seriously, folks, with all those hyper-symptoms, why are they postulating a hypo-thesis? Is that counterproductive, or are they trying to restore the balance: yin v. yang?

[crickets]

Wow, tough crowd. Ok, this troll is going back under the bridge now.


LOL! :)

I was thinking the same thing. This really needs to be worded better to be taken seriously. I am hypo-impressed about all of these hyper-symptoms. I am not sure if I hyper-agree with the hypo-thesis though. :)



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22 Nov 2011, 3:26 pm

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I don't agree with the assumption that the autistic community has more disagreements than other communities.
I posted a basic truth and you are already disagreeing with me! You see what I mean?! :)


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22 Nov 2011, 3:58 pm

there is a lot of autistic in fighting.on the generalized disability sites you nevr ever see the infighting that is on this and other autistic sites


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22 Nov 2011, 4:21 pm

jackbus01 wrote:
Burnbridge wrote:
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The proposed neuropathology is hyper-functioning of local neural microcircuits, best characterized by hyper-reactivity and hyper-plasticity. Such hyper-functional microcircuits are speculated to become autonomous and memory trapped leading to the core cognitive consequences of hyper-perception, hyper-attention, hyper-memory and hyper-emotionality.


Are you sure they are not studying ADHD? I'm starting to spazz just reading about how hyper everything is. All of a sudden I'm totally hyped for X-TREME SCIENCE!

Lacking that, would they like to borrow a thesaurus?

Um...but seriously, folks, with all those hyper-symptoms, why are they postulating a hypo-thesis? Is that counterproductive, or are they trying to restore the balance: yin v. yang?

[crickets]

Wow, tough crowd. Ok, this troll is going back under the bridge now.


LOL! :)

I was thinking the same thing. This really needs to be worded better to be taken seriously. I am hypo-impressed about all of these hyper-symptoms. I am not sure if I hyper-agree with the hypo-thesis though. :)


Autism isn't the only thing that a hyper response to a hypo connected brain has been pt forward as an explanation.

A few years ago a similar explanation for adrenaline junkies was put forward.

The adrenaline levels in someone with social anxiety that walks to the local shop are higher than those in adrenaline junkie as he jumps off a cliff.

HYPER active response to HYPO levels of adrenaline.

Which explains why many adrenaline junkies do what they claiming it makes them alive, they have to push the extreme end of the envelope in order to feel a normal level of stimulation.