11 Dec 2011, 8:03 pm
Ganondox wrote:
rombomb2 wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
I really do not understand how people are bad at math, and its quite frustrating when I'm helping someone with their math and they just don't get it. I won't do the work for them as I want them to understand, so I just guide them through it by asking them questions and pointing things out, but when I'm practically dragging them through it I'm strongly tempted to just leave them and do it all for them, but for their own good I won't. I really feel like shouting "OMFG, it's a simple pattern, why is it so hard to get? You just take the freaking variable and replace with any freaking thing, it could be flying cows for all I care, and it would still be true as it is a freaking identity. Why does it seem like I'm the only person who gets this?". Sorry, I just really don't get it.
Hi Ganondox. I'm interested to know what sorts of methods and tools, visual or otherwise, that you used to help explain the material to them?
I don't, which may be part of the problem. People just come to me and ask for help as I'm the best at math there, and then I have to guide them along through the problems without any preparation.
When solving math problems my thoughts are almost entirely visual in a weird way, the only verbal thoughts is a bit of a running commentary. I imagine functions as sort of fluid and animated objects, but they still resemble the function, it's hard to explain.
You know I used to tutor Physics and Math in college. And now I'm homeschooling my less than 5 year old girls. And having experience with both types of people, adults and children, I've found that there are a lot of similarities between them. So the way they learn is similar too. I think I've come up with a way to help teach things like Math and Physics. I think it might even work with other things too. It still needs a lot of work so I'd greatly appreciate your input. I'd also love to hear from you how it works out in your tutoring. Thanks.
How the mind learns
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztt ... t?hl=en_US
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11 Dec 2011, 8:21 pm
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11 Dec 2011, 9:08 pm
rombomb2 wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
rombomb2 wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
I really do not understand how people are bad at math, and its quite frustrating when I'm helping someone with their math and they just don't get it. I won't do the work for them as I want them to understand, so I just guide them through it by asking them questions and pointing things out, but when I'm practically dragging them through it I'm strongly tempted to just leave them and do it all for them, but for their own good I won't. I really feel like shouting "OMFG, it's a simple pattern, why is it so hard to get? You just take the freaking variable and replace with any freaking thing, it could be flying cows for all I care, and it would still be true as it is a freaking identity. Why does it seem like I'm the only person who gets this?". Sorry, I just really don't get it.
Hi Ganondox. I'm interested to know what sorts of methods and tools, visual or otherwise, that you used to help explain the material to them?
I don't, which may be part of the problem. People just come to me and ask for help as I'm the best at math there, and then I have to guide them along through the problems without any preparation.
When solving math problems my thoughts are almost entirely visual in a weird way, the only verbal thoughts is a bit of a running commentary. I imagine functions as sort of fluid and animated objects, but they still resemble the function, it's hard to explain.
You know I used to tutor Physics and Math in college. And now I'm homeschooling my less than 5 year old girls. And having experience with both types of people, adults and children, I've found that there are a lot of similarities between them. So the way they learn is similar too. I think I've come up with a way to help teach things like Math and Physics. I think it might even work with other things too. It still needs a lot of work so I'd greatly appreciate your input. I'd also love to hear from you how it works out in your tutoring. Thanks.
How the mind learns
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztt ... t?hl=en_US
Am I supposed to read the entire thing? If so, eep! I have a really short attention span unless I'm really into something, and I'm not actually really tutoring anyone, I'm just occasionally helping people with their math.
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11 Dec 2011, 9:45 pm
11 Dec 2011, 9:51 pm
Ganondox wrote:
rombomb2 wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
rombomb2 wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
I really do not understand how people are bad at math, and its quite frustrating when I'm helping someone with their math and they just don't get it. I won't do the work for them as I want them to understand, so I just guide them through it by asking them questions and pointing things out, but when I'm practically dragging them through it I'm strongly tempted to just leave them and do it all for them, but for their own good I won't. I really feel like shouting "OMFG, it's a simple pattern, why is it so hard to get? You just take the freaking variable and replace with any freaking thing, it could be flying cows for all I care, and it would still be true as it is a freaking identity. Why does it seem like I'm the only person who gets this?". Sorry, I just really don't get it.
Hi Ganondox. I'm interested to know what sorts of methods and tools, visual or otherwise, that you used to help explain the material to them?
I don't, which may be part of the problem. People just come to me and ask for help as I'm the best at math there, and then I have to guide them along through the problems without any preparation.
When solving math problems my thoughts are almost entirely visual in a weird way, the only verbal thoughts is a bit of a running commentary. I imagine functions as sort of fluid and animated objects, but they still resemble the function, it's hard to explain.
You know I used to tutor Physics and Math in college. And now I'm homeschooling my less than 5 year old girls. And having experience with both types of people, adults and children, I've found that there are a lot of similarities between them. So the way they learn is similar too. I think I've come up with a way to help teach things like Math and Physics. I think it might even work with other things too. It still needs a lot of work so I'd greatly appreciate your input. I'd also love to hear from you how it works out in your tutoring. Thanks.
How the mind learns
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztt ... t?hl=en_US
Am I supposed to read the entire thing? If so, eep! I have a really short attention span unless I'm really into something, and I'm not actually really tutoring anyone, I'm just occasionally helping people with their math.
Na just to the part that reads "How can this logic be applied in a situation in the field of teaching Physics?"
You mentioned that you didn't understand why they didn't get it. The short answer is that the explanation should be disected into situations, rules, and logic just like sentences are disected with grammar. When learning a language, we must learn grammar so that we can learn how to use language. And so when learning math, we must learn the problems, formulas, and theorems so that we can learn how to do math.
In math,
Problems are situations,
Formulas are rules,
Theorems are logic.
And learning math requires learning all of these things and it requires the student to be able to dissect math and break it down into its situations, rules, and logic.
12 Dec 2011, 8:43 am
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