Have you ever been excluded, banned or blacklisted?
Longshanks
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And management wouldn't do anything?
Longshanks
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I remember all my friends be allowed at each others houses but I was often sent home or be told they have too many kids over and they can't have more.
I remember being in 5th grade and one of my new friends who was the ringleader would tell me to leave or go away and ta ta and the other friends did what she did.
I remember during lunch one day that same year I was eating at the table with my friends and then all of a sudden they moved to the other table and didn't make room for me so I was stuck eating alone.
I remember my old best friend telling other kids about me on the bus every Monday morning when I be at my shrink's. She even make up stuff about me and she turned kids against me on the bus. But then later on they all apologized for believing her.
In high school I would try and join in conversations and socialize with others and I was often told to be quiet.
I also remember the days when I get told to do things or when kids try and get me to do things to get me into trouble. Even my own friends did it to me. Plus they would also do it to laugh.
I join internet forums - just to have a place to talk and when I tell people how I feel or if I am wrong they get upset.
One time I got a couple of people mad at me and they got me thrown off that forum.
Then they found my IP address and they stalked me through the internet and ever site I joined they flamed me.
But they did it real smart.
Instead of just one person causing all of the trouble and getting himself thrown off the forum, they got 10 people together and they all flamed me until I got mad and retaliated and the forum moderator threw me off.
That happened about 10 times in a row.
I even informed one or two of them about what was going on - but in this world the majority rules.
If one person doesn't fit it, it is easier to get rid of the one person then to get rid of the people who are causing the trouble.
They won't ever find me here.
They would have to admit first that they have some type of problem and if the other people here knew that they were faking or were just here because they were trying to pick a fight, I don't know how sympathetic you all would be towards them.
I joined two ham radio clubs and when my mom died, none of the club members came to the funeral home or sent me a condolences card. No big deal - right?
Well a couple of weeks later some other club members family members died and they were passing around sympathy cards and asked me to sign.
I got upset but I held it all in.
Last month in a span of 30 days I quit both clubs.
I was one of their most active members and I did the most for both of the clubs, donating both money and my time to help them and this was the way they paid me back.
If people acts like this towards you - then they are not your friends and you do not need them.
I started my own Ham Radio Club, and although I am disabled and can hardly work - I have been searching for another job so I can make money so I can build my own club and be successful and let people join not because they want to belong to a buddy club and eat doughnuts and drink coffee, but because they want to participate in amateur radio activities.
I have made about 6 good friends since then and I have made over 2000 radio contacts since I got my license last year and I figure at this rate I will be successful in about 5 years in starting my own club and being the premier club in all of Pennsylvania.
If you want to be successful in anything in life, you have to surround yourself with other people who wants to be successful!
I wonder what is that "ppl sense"?
I understand why selfish or aggressive behavior--interrupting people while they are talking, only wanting to talk about yourself and your problems, calling other people names, making fun of other people's beliefs, etc-- on the part of either an NT or an aspie can anger people. But why do aspies become targets even when we are calm and courteous?
I try to be pleasant and quietly friendly to people and yet more than once I have had people react with violent dislike to me where to the point where they felt they had to tell lies about me to get me excluded from their environment. I know other aspies who have had similar situations. The way most NT's prefer to take sides with another NT, even an unkind and dishonest one, against an aspie who didn't do anything is what really puzzles me.
Longshanks
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1) I love your avatar! My compliments!
2) You are completely right on your statement.
3) We get the last laugh when we say, "I told you so!"
Longshanks
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Supporter of the Brian Terry Foundation @ www.honorbrianterry.com. Special Agent Brian Terry (1970-2010) was murdered as a direct result of Operation Fast & Furious - which Barry O won't discuss - wonder why?
The last ham radio club I belonged to - the clubs President went out of his way to recruit me to join his club.
When I had problems with the first club - they were doing illegal activities and I told them that I did not want to be a part of that - they asked me to quit.
At the same time the President of the second club - asked me to quit the first club.
So I quit.
I had done the footwork for a recent event and I felt that it wasn't right that I had done all of the arrangements for that event and then I was the one person that was excluded.
The funny thing was the event ( Groundhogs Day) was not held on the day of the events origin - because the club members wanted to put it off until that Saturday.
So what I did was start my own club, I asked for help from the other people I thought were my friends to generate some certificates and I did my own special event - with no advertising on the Thursday which was the actual Groundhogs day.
From that day on - no one would help me and the other club President quit talking to me and quit socializing with me and all the other club members shunned me and I figured why would I want to belong to a club that the members doesn't talk to me and they won't take my free advice.
So I sent them 3 emails - until they accepted my resignation.
Only the SOB went one step further and he forwarded my emails that I had sent to him in private to the other board members.
The ace in the hole was that I was also a board member and I knew some things that they were doing that wasn't quite on the up and up and I knew the people he was feuding with.
So I sent a email of my own to his arch enemy and gave him the 411 on what the club was planning on doing and I have not heard from the man they didn't get along with, but I can tell you that what they were trying to do - their plans fell through when the county found out that they were trying to steal a radio repeater from the counties tower and put it on another tower for their own use so they could control it.
They spent over $1000 for a new repeater and now they can't use it because the county owns the equipment and they cannot get access to the tower to remove it.
1) I love your avatar! My compliments!
2) You are completely right on your statement.
3) We get the last laugh when we say, "I told you so!"
Longshanks
Yes, but if you think about it a little bit, what exactly is the gain for anyone if that truth happens to be "Wow, you're fat and ugly" or "you have a big mustache for a woman!" or other things my son still (at 17) tells people?
Isn't that a bit like telling anyone here that "wow, you don't behave like the rest of us, do you?"?
Longshanks
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Joined: 2 Feb 2012
Age: 61
Gender: Male
Posts: 558
Location: At an undisclosed airbase at Shangri-la
I never said there wasn't a price.
Longshanks
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Supporter of the Brian Terry Foundation @ www.honorbrianterry.com. Special Agent Brian Terry (1970-2010) was murdered as a direct result of Operation Fast & Furious - which Barry O won't discuss - wonder why?
1) I love your avatar! My compliments!
2) You are completely right on your statement.
3) We get the last laugh when we say, "I told you so!"
Longshanks
Yes, but if you think about it a little bit, what exactly is the gain for anyone if that truth happens to be "Wow, you're fat and ugly" or "you have a big mustache for a woman!" or other things my son still (at 17) tells people?
Isn't that a bit like telling anyone here that "wow, you don't behave like the rest of us, do you?"?
This is very typical NT nonsense.
Having a clear intellectual understanding of the world is more important than social awkwardness. Things don't suddenly stop being true just because you don't like them.
If we abandon all logic and reason just because the facts are unpleasant, we will turn into a race of complete idiots. Well, most people are already there, but the point still stands.
To use your own example, where would your autistic son be if everyone was too scared to admit that he was different? If everyone felt too uncomfortable to admit that he had a disorder called autism, because it's not nice to think that people can have problems? People would just think he was a real jerk, and that he had no excuse for being so rude, even though he probably can't help it. Imagine how much worse he would be treated.
Where would we be right now as a species if we never had any knowledge about fire, because we were too scared to study and experiment with it, always fearful of getting burned?
Where would we be if we had never discovered the cause of things like cholera? If we were too scared to tell everyone they had been drinking water with human waste in it, because it's gross and we don't want to think about it?
Germs in your food? No way, that would be horrible, let's not think about it...
All NTs ever do is lie to themselves and each other, ignoring reality as much as they can because they're all so terrified that the truth about certain things might be unpleasant.

