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07 Feb 2016, 7:01 pm

I started seeing a neuro-linguistic programming specialist who just happened to also be a medical doctor in my area, so I can see him for free. Our first appointment I was having difficulty understanding what he was saying, I kept taking his instructions too literally, wasn't able to understand others lol. I see him again this week, so hopefully this appointment will go better than the last.



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07 Feb 2016, 7:29 pm

I'm highly susceptible to driving hypnosis.

I notice that having another person (passenger) talking to me causes me driving problems, such as failing to notice red lights. I've had to institute a no-talking-allowed policy while I'm driving. I'm not sure if that's because it's making me less hypnotized or what.


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01 Aug 2016, 5:00 am

It's interesting to see people say that they are not suggestible. We all are to some degree or other. It's just that what many people perceive about hypnosis is aligned with what we see on tv.

Remembering that I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and an aspie; when you see a stage show, or Derren Brown, or something like that, he uses a combination of hypnotherapy, magic and misdirection. When he tells you he's not hypnotising people, he most certainly is. However, it's not that deep sleep that it appears to be. There are lots of things at play here, including a highly charged emotional state in the audience, along with the desire to NOT look stupid. The quick hypnosis is entirely possible, and it's because our brains expect a certain pattern, and when interrupted, we are confused and will quickly do what's asked of us. So, if someone goes to shake your hand but instead puts his hand to your head and says "sleep", you will do it because your mind needs some certainty. The rest of the work is done by deepening the effect and putting the person into trance.

We all regularly self-hypnotise. Netflix for hours on end, anyone? We enter a deep state of trance then.

What a skilled hypnotherapist does is bypass the critical faculty in the mind, the gatekeeper that wants to keep us stuck and resistant. What we also do is understand that if an aspie is very literal (like me) we need direct suggestions, not metaphors and Ericksonian hypnotherapy, AND to build in any distractions so we can head off to that beach, perhaps, but be aware we may not be the only people on it.

Standard hypnosis is very difficult for me to get into, and I'm a hypnotherapist. If my therapist says something "wrong" to me, I will snap out of trance. So, it's all about getting it right, and talking to the client to find out what words to use, and they are best coming from the aspie client.


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28 Sep 2017, 10:51 am

My experience with hypnosis as a 15 year old with mild Asperger's is that some hypnosis videos/audios work on me but my mind sometimes goes slightly off-track and thinks about something else, then focuses back a split-second later. It may just be that I need practice but for me, sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.



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12 Dec 2019, 8:45 pm

I did a hypnosis study mentioned on a Facebook aphantasia group. It was by a university of Sussex PhD candidate .

My result.

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Good evening, I've just checked your test, the score is 3 out of 40, meaning that you are very low in hypnotic suggestibility


It was also mentioned on this aphantasia forum . https://aphantasia.com/discussion/onlin ... tically-9/


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12 Dec 2019, 10:14 pm

My mom paid 150 dollars to a hypnotherapist person to hypnotize my youngest brother (AT THE TIME THEY DIDNT KNOW THE SCHOOL HAD DIAGNOSED HIM WITH AUTISM YEARS AGO, WHICH HE HAD HIDDEN FROM US all)

AND it didnt work
it was hilarious when my brother recounted it because he didnt want to 'let the man down' by making it obvious he was not hypnotized so he pretended to be woozy and shaking and listening .. the whole thing.. he pretended to 'snap out of it' when the man tried to make him etc

so the man left with 150 dollars for watching my brother pretend to be hypnotized.
so yeah i dont think it is compatible his autism is more severe in the sense that he could be hovering between level 1 and 2, compared to me.


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16 Dec 2019, 12:42 pm

I have wondered this as well. I think it has something to do with an anxious/alert/sharp mindset, which means we are less suggestible.


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16 Dec 2019, 12:50 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
My mom paid 150 dollars to a hypnotherapist person to hypnotize my youngest brother (AT THE TIME THEY DIDNT KNOW THE SCHOOL HAD DIAGNOSED HIM WITH AUTISM YEARS AGO, WHICH HE HAD HIDDEN FROM US all)


How does a school diagnose someone with Autism and NOT inform the parents, or even try to get a recounting of the parents' experiences of their child at home?


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16 Dec 2019, 12:54 pm

I wonder about people who claim to be "hypnotists."

A lot of them are con people.



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16 Dec 2019, 10:29 pm

Abstract_Logic wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
My mom paid 150 dollars to a hypnotherapist person to hypnotize my youngest brother (AT THE TIME THEY DIDNT KNOW THE SCHOOL HAD DIAGNOSED HIM WITH AUTISM YEARS AGO, WHICH HE HAD HIDDEN FROM US all)


How does a school diagnose someone with Autism and NOT inform the parents, or even try to get a recounting of the parents' experiences of their child at home?



I dont know but keep in mind neither of my parents were in the country .they are always travelling fr various reasons n my dad doesn't live here at all..he is in Middle East

esp my mom eg london for tumour treatment or checkup, middle east to b with my dad..who wanted her not to leave..
He kept pushing back her date to come back..
Alsp mom travels constantly to
pakistan to look after my grandmpther..

They were also travelling around the world fr fun too.. Off and on (my parents)
Everything is unknown with their whereabouts like Where in the World is Carmen Santiago
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n my brother often lies to avoid getting family involved in anything anyway...
He could have said anything.


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16 Dec 2019, 10:36 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I wonder about people who claim to be "hypnotists."

A lot of them are con people.


It's a strange job choice . but 150 for 1 session is a lot.
I guess that is incentive to at least try and be authentic.. Because if u rip someone off fr 150 n they realize ... I guess u cd get in trouble.

Of course many lawyers make way more money and many often lie too and con people...

so i guess incentive to be honest isn't as big a deal if u are self-regulated n protected by all kinds of rules as well as colleagues...

So i may be wrong

.but i doubt hypnotists wield as much power n knowhow of the law to be able to deceive with success .regularly.


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17 Dec 2019, 1:41 am

blooiejagwa wrote:
Abstract_Logic wrote:
blooiejagwa wrote:
My mom paid 150 dollars to a hypnotherapist person to hypnotize my youngest brother (AT THE TIME THEY DIDNT KNOW THE SCHOOL HAD DIAGNOSED HIM WITH AUTISM YEARS AGO, WHICH HE HAD HIDDEN FROM US all)


How does a school diagnose someone with Autism and NOT inform the parents, or even try to get a recounting of the parents' experiences of their child at home?



I dont know but keep in mind neither of my parents were in the country .they are always travelling fr various reasons n my dad doesn't live here at all..he is in Middle East

esp my mom eg london for tumour treatment or checkup, middle east to b with my dad..who wanted her not to leave..
He kept pushing back her date to come back..
Alsp mom travels constantly to
pakistan to look after my grandmpther..

They were also travelling around the world fr fun too.. Off and on (my parents)
Everything is unknown with their whereabouts like Where in the World is Carmen Santiago
.
n my brother often lies to avoid getting family involved in anything anyway...
He could have said anything.


I see. That sounds like a complicated situation.


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17 Dec 2019, 2:01 am

firemonkey wrote:
I did a hypnosis study mentioned on a Facebook aphantasia group. It was by a university of Sussex PhD candidate .

My result.
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Good evening, I've just checked your test, the score is 3 out of 40, meaning that you are very low in hypnotic suggestibility


It was also mentioned on this aphantasia forum . https://aphantasia.com/discussion/onlin ... tically-9/


I checked your link, and tried the hypnosis study. As I would have expected, I experienced no evidence of hypnotic suggestibility. I suspect my aphantasia is likely to be the principal culprit. A soft-toned voice urging me to close my eyes and imagine X,Y or Z doesn't do much for me!



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17 Dec 2019, 2:03 am

from what i can tell, it all revolves over the ability [or lack thereof] to be both alert yet relaxed.



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19 Dec 2019, 12:12 am

Keyman wrote:
Does asperger make people function in such way that hypnosis doesn't work, or work poorly? (like interpretating communication litterarly)
I have read a lot about it. There's numerous examples that it does work, but I fail to see how it really could work unless an inherent and slightly obsessive drive to follow peers that seem common with NTs enables the process?


Some people are highly susceptible to hypnotic suggestion regardless of their neurology.
Dissociative disorder is a type of hypnotic trance.
I have had a dissociative disorder and have been easily influenced by hypnotic suggestion in the past.
I am Autistic.
Question answered.

Keep in mind, there are different levels of susceptibility to hypnotism.
Stage hypnotists have a method of vetting the best candidates for their show.
"Derren Brown" has made a number of youtube videos experimenting with hynosis.
Worth a view.



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07 Jan 2020, 11:56 pm

I'm more suggestible in person, in part because being suggestible speeds up the interaction and reduces awkwardness. Being inquisitive and testy is awkward and anxiety-inducing. I also don't often have the tools necessary to be more inquisitive or assertive. Nowadays we have our smartphones where we can look up information to check claims; but even with smartphones, the context of the social interaction sometimes makes it awkward to pause for a minute while I check sources. Then sometimes the claim is not worth checking up on, but not worth outwardly questioning because I just want to go home asap, so it's like "Oh I see, sure, mhm." It also depends on the other person's personality, my perception of their level of expertise on the topic, my relationship to them, and how important I think the topic is. Sometimes there is little choice in the matter. I have a habit of nodding and saying "mhm" to acknowledge what the other person is telling me. Sometimes this comes across as agreement with what they're saying. I don't really know how else to respond; it's either do that, or be completely silent and just stare at them--the latter seems less appropriate(?). My mind tends to go blank in "real life" social interactions due to anxiety, which contributes to this.

But is there a meaningful difference between suggestibility in a hypnotic context and passiveness in an ordinary social context? I would think they both depend to a large extent on how much the person values the information and consequences, and their self-efficacy and other psychological factors.


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