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Do you find the images disturbing?
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No 63%  63%  [ 36 ]
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18 Mar 2012, 12:46 am

Is it only obvious to me that they're being deliberately cliched and over the top? treating the Ipad as this new deity or idol is supposed to be camp and a bit funny, not disturbing.

But this is just a classic case of people missing sarcasm.

Really, all I see are people having some fun, people love their new gadgets.


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18 Mar 2012, 12:56 am

^Totally killed my posts power.



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18 Mar 2012, 1:00 am

I just fail to see what the problem is. Is this any more or less strange than an autistic child having a meltdown when you take their blocks away? People have their quirks, who am I to judge how they live?



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18 Mar 2012, 1:32 am

The first picture, yes. Second picture, no. That sort of group behavior creeps me out, whether it's everybody singing a school fight song together or anything like that.



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18 Mar 2012, 2:27 am

Moog wrote:
I have no idea what anything in this thread is about.

LOL that was exactly my reaction!! !! i was trying to figure it out, will read more...

EDIT: still not sure. i can't figure out if i am supposed to be bothered by the customers, the employees, the products, the store, the arms in the air, the boxes, opening day, the blue shirts, something else...


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18 Mar 2012, 2:41 am

nemorosa wrote:
Here:

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and here:

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There is plenty more of the same kind out there.

What is going on? Yes, I know the pictures are from first day of the iPad sales, but what is going on in their minds that makes them behave in this way?

I have about as much chance of putting myself in their shoes as I do someone who strangles puppies.

I find the images disturbing, very much in a "Invasion of the body snatchers" kind of way. It has to be about the most alien behaviour I've ever seen.

Don't get it. Most 1st days of sales are far busier! OK, so I'd not act like them &, in a sense, can't understand why they do. Like I can't understand why people like playing & watching most sports! But why should that be a problem for me? 8)


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18 Mar 2012, 4:57 am

hyperlexian wrote:
Moog wrote:
I have no idea what anything in this thread is about.

LOL that was exactly my reaction!! !! i was trying to figure it out, will read more...

EDIT: still not sure. i can't figure out if i am supposed to be bothered by the customers, the employees, the products, the store, the arms in the air, the boxes, opening day, the blue shirts, something else...


People are making much of it being Apple. It is not about blue shirts, Ipads or Apple. Or even opening days. The thread title was "Look at the people".

I picked these photos as they were a prime example of the kind of human behaviour that gives me the creeps. If the images don't give you the creeps then I appreciate it may be hard to understand where I'm coming from.

Maybe it is because I suffer from two issues:

1) I cannot read peoples faces or body language. Mostly they are a blank to me but anything out of the norm sends my brain into some kind of overload as I try to make sense of it all.
2) Though it sounds inconsistent with the above I am very sensitive to displays of emotion, especially if it is sudden and inexplicable, so much so that it will make me feel anxious.

Combine this with people acting in a way that to my eyes defies any rational motive (though I accept that the people in the photos may feel as though they are behaving perfect normally) and you have the perfect recipe for making me feel "disturbed".

Having thought this all over and read the replies I wonder if I made a mistake in picking Apple events as an example since our media is somewhat saturated with all this, maybe people have become somewhat conditioned to seeing this kind of thing.



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18 Mar 2012, 5:07 am

I do not understand why the photos bother you, yet I do understand that they do so. See? 8)


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18 Mar 2012, 5:21 am

Here are some more that give me the creeps:

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[img][800:626]http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3701064-3x2-940x627.jpg[/img]

Particularly this last one:

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18 Mar 2012, 5:33 am

I've found something they may explain how the photo's make me feel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

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which holds that when human replicas look and act almost, but not perfectly, like actual human beings, it causes a response of revulsion among human observers


The people in the photo's look almost human to me. But not quite.



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18 Mar 2012, 6:13 am

Except that the ways they're acting are human. 8) You are obsessed with this & it isn't helping, tbh. Sorry it gets to you so much, though! :(


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18 Mar 2012, 6:46 am

I've no idea.


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18 Mar 2012, 7:08 am

In principle, it's a group high that stems from accomplishment. A synergy of efforts that won the prize. The game was successfully traversed.

The 'soccer' picture shows that emotion.

As an introvert, I did play some baseball and we won 2 championships, and it's about the thing of overcoming obstacles for a win. No different for the NASA team when Apollo 11 made the lunar landing. You heard cheers from the exuberance that they did it. " We were about to turn blue here."

It's being a part of 'that something' in real time ( not analysing the parts of life from a remote corner). It's only understood from being there as part of it. You are included in it and your part played a small successful role.

It's an understanding of other minds and understanding their efforts towards the goal. Ergo, an appreciation or feel of them as they applied themselves and surmounted all the challenges. They sacrificed or spent themselves in behalf of others in various ways-- a group dynamic.



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18 Mar 2012, 7:16 am

nemorosa wrote:
CosmicRuss wrote:
There is nothing disturbing about the images.

I would think the people in the blue shirts are Apple employees all whipped up into a corporate driven publicity frenzie, I think that is sad to see.


Well, the images seriously give me the willies. Something about the herd behaviour.

I realise that the people in the blue shirts are acting in accordance with corporate culture but the question remains in my mind about why. If I were an employee there and asked to behave in that way it would be impossible for me to do so. Don't they feel at all strange?

Herd behaviour has always seemed strange to me. ^^

It's what I find odd about iPads. It's not the things themselves, but the users that just make me... um... wonder.


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18 Mar 2012, 7:32 am

Mdyar wrote:
In principle, it's a group high that stems from accomplishment. A synergy of efforts that won the prize. The game was successfully traversed.

The 'soccer' picture shows that emotion.

As an introvert, I did play some baseball and we won 2 championships, and it's about the thing of overcoming obstacles for a win. No different for the NASA team when Apollo 11 made the lunar landing. You heard cheers from the exuberance that they did it. " We were about to turn blue here."

It's being a part of 'that something' in real time ( not analysing the parts of life from a remote corner). It's only understood from being there as part of it. You are included in it and your part played a small successful role.

It's an understanding of other minds and understanding their efforts towards the goal. Ergo, an appreciation or feel of them as they applied themselves and surmounted all the challenges. They sacrificed or spent themselves in behalf of others in various ways-- a group dynamic.


That's what I see too. I am guessing it has evolutionary origins in the cooperation needed for hunting large game. Bringing an ipad update to market is trivial in comparison to bringing down a woolly mammoth, but it's a wonderful feeling whether the group jointly accomplishes something important or something trivial.

My most trivial personal example was a group endeavor to move a large and unwieldy piece of furniture. When we got it from pont A to distant point B we cheered in similar jubilation.



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18 Mar 2012, 7:32 am

BruceCM wrote:
Except that the ways they're acting are human.


Not to me they aren't. :roll:

BruceCM wrote:
You are obsessed with this & it isn't helping, tbh.(


Not obsessed at all. What on earth would make you think that? I make an observation and I'm curious if it affects others the same way - why is that obsessive?

And what isn't it helping?