why are they so many AS fakers?

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I was not aware that there were large numbers of nt's who faked being aspie.

Where did you get this piece of news from?

In fact I was not aware that many nt's were even aware of aspergers.

How is it NT to wonder why anyone would fake something like AS, I kind of wonder the same thiing.

Like many others, I don't understand your point OP. I don't see why a person would go and fake AS when they could go "fake" something more severe like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. They would have a nice crutch because unlike AS and ASD lots more people take those disorders seriously.

Lots of people on this forum seem NT but that's most likely because they don't have to interact in person and its very easy to create and roleplay as the confident internet persona you've cooked up. There are varying levels of severity for ASD too. I don't think many people out there would intentionally fake having AS, so what I'm insinuating here is that you're playing the role of doctor now and feel that a lot of people truly don't have AS according to your own standards.

and yes I've been diagnosed with ASD among other things and even I don't act like the majority of people here.

Last edited by NeueZiel on 07 Jun 2012, 7:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I did not mean the thread itself was rubbish but the title and original post of the thread.

Very NT indeed.

I have never formed a relationship I live at home and I have no close friends.

I have been unemployed and depressed for the last ten months maybe that is why my reply seemed so negative.

I again say I find it hard to believe many people would want to fake AS.

I am self-diagnosed too, and also know that I have it, no doubt.

@mmcool: okay, I guess I can understand that. I've been accused of being a "faker" before, and yet there are a few people who recognized it in me before I did.

I have never met someone in person that said they have Asperger's. Most people I know have no idea what it is.

It just shows the arbitrary nature of the Asperger traits ie that they can be found in a massively wide variety of people, with a massively wide variety of functioning abilities and widely varying success in life

Which does call into question the point of the diganosis at all as it's clearly not specific enough

It would be interesting to send some NT fakers along to a psychiatrist to see how easy it was to get a diagnosis - I'm betting exceedingly so

No one can transfer themselves into your shoes and know what you've been through and had to suffer with your entire life. f**k anyone that calls you a faker, I'm diagnosed but have absolutely nothing against those who self-diagnose themselves. Why the f**k should others accuse you of being "fake"? How does it hurt and effect them? Your quality of life has had to suffer for some reason and you deduce that it is AS after doing research. Maybe you don't have AS but something else is no doubt wrong, but how does this hurt anyone? When someone feels that something has been wrong their entire life its natural to desire a label or some kind of reason for it.

Hell, if a person wants to go so far as to fake AS then they probably have something wrong with them too. I don't understand all the people in this topic complaining about these so called "fakers", even if they did exist what exactly are they doing to hurt you?

Last edited by NeueZiel on 07 Jun 2012, 7:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I'm sorry for quote-raping this thread so much, but this is dead-on. I'm such a gay metaphor with my AS right now; coming out of the closet so to speak. I've always just wondered why I sucked so much at, um... life. And since Asperger's fell into my lap a couple months ago, I've hit some highs and some lows with the discovery.

Last thing I wanted in the world was to be associated with "some group" of people who all they do is talk about what's wrong with them all day. Felt like I was supposed to go on an AS support group bus tour or something and sign off on any of my "big plans" since they weren't going to come to fruition anyway, and now I was approaching "proof" of that. Lesbians become feminists, gays become gay rights activists, the poor become... democrats (JOKE! JOKE!)... which means an Aspie has to dedicate his/her life to promoting aspie awareness, right??

But that's ridiculous. I heard Bill Gates is one of us, and all he does is crush people with his giant geek brain all day.

So after a while, (a matter of a couple days maybe? Processing it pretty quickly) I came to conclude 5 minutes ago that it's kind of nice to know that there are thousands of other people who can't finish writing their stupid books or albums, etc., and they think a lot like me. I've never wanted to pick someone else's brain so bad.

Still got a long way to go, but I agree with your statement and many on this thread. I JUST WANTED AN EXPLANATION. There's been a huge weight lifted from my shoulders.

On the contrast, I feel an additional weight now, too. But I'm hoping that goes away. I have to learn all about this new AS thing, have to figure out how to get officially diagnosed, have to undoubtedly spend cash I don't have on treatment, whatever THAT entails, have to enter into a scene that they diagnose children only, no adults, and pretty much under-rug swept again... like the rest of my life... at something I'm supposed to feel GOOD about figuring out all of a sudden! Ugh, brain collapse, goodbye.

I do have extream delays when dealing with unantisipated questions as for comon ones I reply automaticaly with rehersed responces. I.E. How are you, just fine and I do this with out thaught what so ever even to the point that if asked after cuting off a limb the answer would be just fine.

Odd movement I take tie quan do to help with the clumsy apereance. Also when im out in a common area I reduce the amount of time there.

Facial expressions I greet my coworkers politely with a smile in the morning. The rest of the time they think I am pissed. I smile at jokes even if I dont think there funny.

Trust me the hardest is hiding melt downs.
This is what I do every day and a hundred million other thing to seem normal.
And I still seem odd or excentric to them, If you realy want to try to act nt Ill go threw it all with you but Its not worth it!! !
This has alowed me to have a job a wife but not realy no how to deal with them.

Last edited by johnny77 on 07 Jun 2012, 7:58 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Because NTs understand us so well? seriously how can one fake something they have no understanding of. Hate to break it to people but pretending to be a 'nerd' does not= AS.

I'm not saying it hurts anyone to say they have it - I'm questioning the scientific/clinical efficacy of the diagnosis when it covers such a wide field of people and range of behaviours

Lol for the record, "faker" wouldn't even rate in the top 20 of things my wife has called me since this morning! (She's mad that I've been on here all day ignoring her)

No one said NT fake being aspire. They are normal for a reason and like Bing normal otherwise they wouldn't be normal. What normal person wants to be awkward? Doesn't work like that. Obviously someone who is fat and ugly or something similar and is able to communicate but being aspie gives em an excuse as to why they don't have a boyfriend/girlfriend or for whatever reason they have. I am sorry but people with jobs, friends, significant others clearly do not have a communication problem in my eyes.

They couldn't relate to me not one bit! What I would give to have someone to call, or text. Someone to hug, hold or kiss. A job so I don't have to rely on a government ssi check every month or my grand father to give me a place to live.

I feel insulted and angry when I see people on here say they work and have girl friends and friends. Like your communication issue can't be that's bad!

No it's ok I don't want to act like them; I hate most of them!

Maybe people read about AS online and feel that it is them and decide that yes they have it. I have not met anyone that has faked having it. I could imagine that someone may think they have it after reading about it and taking online AS quizzes.