Things YOU Understand (but Don't Understand) About NTs

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@ Callista:

My guess is that millions of years of evolution don't go away overnight. Our current mode of living is pretty new.

Anyway.....

What I don't "get" is why so many people insist on thinking in fuzzy, sloppy generalizations. I understand that generalizations are just broad patterns people incorporate into their thinking in order to make quick sense of the world, but most people I know seem to think exclusive in sloppy generalizations. Moreover, they regard them as absolute fact.

Generalizations are fine providing people actually realize they're generalizations, but most people (that I I know) don't seem to have any appreciation for specifics.

Your missing the whole point. No one can ever stop needing "it". religion is not a coping mechanism for physical injury, but mental/spiritual comfort. no one knows what happens after we die. No one will ever know for sure. It is unknown. People fear the unknown. So religion helps them cope by allowing them to know. Religion even contains codes of ethics for people to live by, and makes peoplefeel like they are part of something larger than themselves

It also helps people to live their lives in times of stress, to believe that there is a divine being that will help them with their problems.

Lastly, I think it has been long since established that humans are not perfect. It is a comfort to most people to beleive that something is.

I am not particularly religeous, since I do understand the inherent flaws in living by the dictates of book that is thousands of years old without adapting it to fit modern times

However, I do believe in god. As an aspie I definitely understand the hesitance based on the whole "there is no proof" thing, But I have found my own proof. fully explaining that proof would be a whole other thread. Sufficient to say I choose to believe that human life, with its capacity for self awarenessis so unimaginably complicated, there must have been some kind of guiding hand in its creation. though I definitely still belive in evolution. I just don't think evolution produces self awareness.

Conciousness is the result of a living brain. Once the brain is dead, there is no more conciousness, so I think it's pretty obvious where you go after you die. You go no where, because you no longer have a living brain to sustain your thoughts.

You may as well ask, where were you before you were conceived?
But yes, I agree, no one can really know since death is usually ultimate and very few people that experience death ever come back.

It's funny how people have no problem living by religious ethics, when during the medieval times, the ethics involved the slaughter of many innocent people. Including those thought to have been practising other forms of religion. Religion is merely an outdated theory of everything. People thought up entities and other spiritual beings because at the time, they didn't understand much of anything. When God was invented, the Earth was still flat, we were at the centre of the universe and I doubt very much that Dinosaurs were included in God's creation, since they have not been mentioned once in the Bible.

Science has changed since then, we know more, yet people still can't let go of old theories since the Universe would be a frightening place without them. Most people are afraid of death and the unknown, but where would we be if we weren't afraid of those things? It's part of us. We have to be afraid in order to survive.

But religion is the never-ending debate, and this probably isn't the best place to debate about such thoughts.

He made them the same day as all the other reptiles. lol

Interesting.


TheSunAlsoRises

Other birds. (just for fun, no teasing intended!)

Well said. This has been a big observation of mine throughout my life. And I don't mean it to be self-righteous or condescending toward the masses, but this seems to be the cardinal rule by which they live. It's almost self-righteous on their part, to believe their individual feelings to be "correct," why can't they stop and think for a moment?

I understand NTs operate this way, but this is an excellent example of something I don't understand why they do it.

Same here.

Yes, I fully get that people do this, and I might understand why. But I disagree in principle with the why, I am very much egalitarian when dealing with people on the individual level.

Personally I try not to label people as "sheep," just because I find it's often used as a dismissive tactic, and also to boost one's ego (USUALLY).

In this case, however, I can fully identify with this. It seems like a lot of people will say things like "who does that?" when someone does something that's out of the norm, but not bad in anyway. Rather than saying, "I personally don't care for that, but more power to him," or "...gee, I never thought of that," they instead fall back on the default that this is out of the ordinary, therefore, bad, and anyone who does it must be avoided. "It" can be whatever it that's unique and not commonly done.

In my experience this further confounds them. I do act nicer to people I like now, at work, to show others who I respect. Once you've proven yourself to me (that you're not a complete douchebag), you're permanently on my team and I will always do things for you and be nice to you. What really confuses me is why NTs DO NOT appreciate this quality. Some people have deliberately started being mean to me. I'm only guessing that my constant affections (or attempt at them) annoyed them to the point of not liking me back anymore.

Who knows. What do we do with these infinite possibilities of comprehension?

Last edited by kirayng on 23 Jun 2012, 7:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.

Are you talking about silly fads and trends which are bunk, but people would rather pursue for the joy of it and not question the validity?

No it's when someone's faults are obvious and due to the power or authority of the person those faults are not acknowledged or talked about.

I've always believed in treating others equally. And even if two people don't care for one another, they should still be able to tolerate and respect one another.

I've had many instances where someone decides they don't like me. Fine, don't care, except they use that as an excuse to treat my like garbage. I also cringe when I see other people doing this preferential treat with those around them.

And I'll take it so far as to say that the rare times when someone likes me better than the others and treats me with more preference, I actually feel very uncomfortable and lose respect for him/her.

Can you give me an example of a common generalization you see people using? I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at.

I don't understand how you can lose respect for someone that shows preferential treatment to you, yet respect someone you dislike?

I can actually, lol after I read it again, you lose respect because they don't mirror your values (of respecting those you dislike).